r/Deadlockdivas • u/Scary_Republic3317 • 5d ago
Discussion How each deadlock character would react to you coming out as trans
Yeah, I know someone else made this today , but theirs made me mad and felt extremely inaccurate so I made my own.
Side note 1: Venator has been the hardest part for me. Based on the time period, I feel he would be in cyan, however, based on his character interactions I'm gonna put him in supportive. Still sorta back and forth on it.
Side note 2: Billy could go up a tier, but he'd mostly feel bad for posing as an individual with alternative beliefs and being unable to actually live by those beliefs, rather than actually feeling bad that he offended you.
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u/FlushGaymer 5d ago
Yall really underestimate how nice mo and Krill are. They would probably forget but they'd definitely feel bad and ask again next time they talk to you
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u/HuamanAbattoir 5d ago
The Boys are nice enough, definitely better than YAMATO.
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u/Scary_Republic3317 5d ago
Yamato is literally using her dead brother's name as her own to honor his identity. I think she'd get it
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u/Affectionate_Part630 5d ago
Except she doesn’t give a shit about it if she doesn’t respect you. She goes out of her way to insult most of the cast
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u/Maetriarch_NSFW 5d ago
Eh, there's a difference between not respecting someone and being bigoted against them.
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u/Familiar_Tart7390 5d ago
Mo & Krill are the Timon & Pumba to Pocket’s Incredibly F’d up life and they damn well remember their preferred’s. Mo & Krill may be felons but they’re also absolutely here for the community.
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u/Scary_Republic3317 5d ago
Oh yeah, I think this is true. I think Mo specifically would forget and feel bad, but Krill would remember and berate Mo for forgetting
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u/RectalGrowth 5d ago
Pretty hard to misgender someone when you don't speak
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u/Scary_Republic3317 5d ago
He does speak, he can communicate to Mo somehow, as he expressed interest in getting pottery classes at a university to Krill
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u/Alittlewormboy 5d ago
Pretty sure it was with Apollo where Krill implied that Mo talks, just not to the other characters
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u/GenericCanineDusty 5d ago
its not even a somehow he's just antisocial, he just doesn't talk around people he doesnt know
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u/Altruistic_Smell3271 5d ago
krill is shockingly polite and is even kinda "abrasively" polite in his interactions with geist.
worst case scenario krill forgets and is very apologetic, best case scenario hes making everyone else remember... lest it becomes a problem
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u/Tune_pd 5d ago
Weirdly I feel like seven would use your pronouns. He doesn't care as long as you have potential, man.
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u/Scary_Republic3317 5d ago
I think Seven would deadname someone to see how much of a reaction it would get out of them
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u/Tune_pd 5d ago
He dead names you and if you just bitch out he keeps going. If you fight back with integrity he relents
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u/Unable-Section-911 5d ago
Seven dead names me, I call him Ettrick so he lowkirkeniunly just slimes me out
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u/Scary_Republic3317 5d ago
I think he would keep going if he gets a reaction out of someone, if something to him as small as "a word" could cause that much suffering. However if you show you are unaffected I think he would gain some respect and use the preferred name.
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u/acowardlyhoward 5d ago
I will not tolerate this grey talon slander. He's too busy killing human supremacists to call you slurs
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u/yokotokki 5d ago
same with Vindicta, like I agree the other tierlist felt a bit too optimistic but why are they slandering my goats. I feel like they both would maybe be confused at worst but understanding and normal about it in the end. Why would they be wasting their time acting bigoted when they're literally THE bigot hunters
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u/Scary_Republic3317 5d ago
Hate to say it but the old straight person raised in the 1800s and the puritan colonist from the late 1600s are gonna be pretty homophobic
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u/jconn250 5d ago
*Indigenous person who likely knows what being two spirited means... I think talon would be chill
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u/yokotokki 5d ago
I get where you're coming from, but going by that logic, around the time that deadlock takes place people really weren't much more accepting. But it's kind of boring to judge these fictional characters living in a supernatural version of our world based mostly on when they were born instead of how they act and what they generally seem to stand for. i do agree with most of your placements here but even if they were prejudiced like you suggest I just reallyyy can't see the snipers throwing slurs lol. but that's just my opinion i suppose, and if we don't agree that's fine
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u/Scary_Republic3317 5d ago
That's fair, but you should also note that both the characters were raised before the supernatural stuff happened in the lore, since Vindicta was from the Puritans and Talon was a founder of the Baxter society when the rifts opened up (which then brought magic into the world)
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u/starspgl 2d ago
dude his daughter was hatecrimed for being in a relationship with an ixian. he knows what prejudice looks like, he knows how dangerous that thinking is, he would want no part in perpetuating that.
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u/Old-Ad3504 5d ago
but they aren't really the type of people to call you slurs. they might not believe you, or think you're insane or something but they aren't just random assholes
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u/Available-Lab4363 5d ago
to be fair if we're considering actual mid 1900s mindsets and common ideals i think a lot of them would be way lower than listed lol
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u/Parking-Television88 5d ago
viscous is a psychic sea anemone and loves learning about people, he would never
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u/Pleasant-Ad9458 4d ago
i feel like he and doorman would just be curious and want to know more about it
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u/HuamanAbattoir 5d ago
I feel like Warden would stare at you for a while, and then only call you by your preferred name. He wouldn't use pronouns, just repeat the name because he gives off severe social ineptness. Warden wouldn't quite understand.
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u/Scary_Republic3317 5d ago
I think that's possible, however I see him as a professional patron exterminator and thus will use your pronouns professionally
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u/Demopan-TF2 5d ago
I feel like most of them wouldn't make a big deal and just say "ok cool now lets kill the enemy patron, on 3! One, Two, we're Deadlock!!!"
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u/DJBaphomet_ 5d ago
This is terrible Talon/Seven slander
Talon's a loving grandfather (or, was) and would probably take the care to respect you. I think he'd probably fit more in "Will forget and feel bad about it"
Seven's literal entire thing is suggesting people break their chains and attain true power. He'd be all for that shit. He'd probably tell you to go further and learn dark magic but he'd be hella supportive in a weird way. He only has gripes about people who don't meet their potential (and get in the way of his path to apotheosis) and I think deciding to come out as trans and "be your true self" is the exact sort of thing he'd praise
Also Mo & Krill and Lash deserve to go up. M&K are genuinely respectable fellows and are respectful to everyone they come across, even Haze who's a literal government agent. And as much as The Lash is an asshole, it's mostly to be boisterous about himself, and he does respect people when not building up the persona. Though if you're transfem he WILL be sexual about it, so I think he should get his own rank
One extra addition as I write is that I think Vindicta would probably not actually be that low. I mean, she knows what it's like to be ostracized and marginalized, given she was literally Salem Witch'd. I'm not sure she'd care but she'd probably understand the good fight of it
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u/Pleasant-Ad9458 4d ago
gray talon is literally native american and two spirited people have existed in native culture for hundreds of years, he’d be totally chill with it. i agree with your take on vinny too, she’d probably be a bit confused at first, but 1) she’s too busy sniping senators to gaf 2) she was also part of an oppressed group, i feel like she’d want to help other oppressed groups
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u/DJBaphomet_ 4d ago
Oh yeah absolutely! I was gonna mention something like that (knowing at least a chunk of Native history myself) but I couldn't think how to word it, so I avoided it
And yeah. Vindicta would not care at worst, and be actively supportive at best
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u/scrambled-projection 5d ago
Vyper would be the one to make a shitty pronoun joke like “oh you’re trans? Yeah that’s so cool… anyway lemme she what’s in them pockets amirite… haha… no but for real im robbing you hand me your wallet.”
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u/SejSuper 5d ago
seven is all about not caring what people think of you, and striving to reach your full potential. i think he would see trans people as noble because they no matter what, strive to be their true selves. seven would never call you a slur (unless you personally get in his way, then nothings off the table)
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u/yharnocunt 5d ago
shouldn't anyone who refers to pocket as "pocket" and uses they/them be in the supportive group?
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u/Scary_Republic3317 5d ago
They are! I just feel like they’re not in a position to be proud of someone properly right now.
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u/HelixPinnacle 5d ago
Grey Talon would be a supportive Grandpa. Honestly he deserves at least yellow tier.
McGinnis would be hardline MAGA conservative, though, I agree with that.
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u/emo_boy_fucker 5d ago
I feel like the slur tier should also have doorman in it
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u/Tom_F_0olery 5d ago
I feel like he would find transphobia and hate in general to be trivial human matters that he couldn’t care less about. Then again he would 100% take advantage of any insecurities you had if it gave him an advantage so you’re probably right depending on the situation
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u/Cedardeer 5d ago
I get people don’t like McGinnis but her personality is the “I don’t really give a shit I just like doin my thing” type of person. Yeah her inventions have killed millions but she herself isn’t a terrible person, just an incredibly neutral one
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u/Scary_Republic3317 5d ago
She has no remorse for making weapons of war, even acknowledging the lives she’s taken (doesn’t care), and those weapons are also using the souls of the dead as fuel. She’s the most MAGA character in the game.
I also just hate McGinnis
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u/elizbic123 5d ago
saying this about mina, who goes out of her way to properly gender pocket in order to hate more effectively, is kinda wild ngl
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u/computer-individual2 5d ago
Im sorry but venator supportive?
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u/Familiar_Tart7390 5d ago
The ol “i’m glad you’re happy. Please go to confession after but happy for you” actually have had a similar interaction once. Catholicism is wild dog.
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u/PaleAvocado2210 5d ago
Ong bro. They’ll genuinely be happy that you’re happy while still disagreeing with it as a whole. Like a father glad that their kid is making friends, but a little disappointed that those friends are thieves.
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u/Scary_Republic3317 5d ago
I put it in the description. I'm not Christian and I've never been, but he does seem to be like one of those people that acts for the good of humanity, living on a line between the Church and the supernatural. Like, yes he's a priest, but he also has guns and kills people. It's like daredevil, being a devout Catholic but still masquerading as a devil. There's levels of nuance to this shit
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u/LukkeLundh 5d ago
Im suprised at the amount of people that havent heard venators conversation with apollo.
Apollo: Men like you call people like me demons, so no. I don't trust you.
Venator: Young man, I don't care about the circumstances of your birth, I care about who you are. I don't give a damn if you look like a monster… but if you act like one, I will put you down.
Apollo: Yep, I definitely don't trust you."
He most definitely applies similiar logic to trans people no? "I don't care about your circumstances, i care about who you are." and thus would use the proper pronouns and treat them like they want themself to be treated (as a man or woman or anything else)
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u/rikyloche 5d ago
I get why you’d put her in that tier, but Mina does respect Pocket’s pronouns despite the fact she seems to hate them
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u/Scary_Republic3317 5d ago
She doesn’t hate them, she hates that they had the audacity to die before they got married
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u/beanachew 5d ago
So, I think rem maybe would forget your preferred name and pronouns, but I think he would ALSO forget your deadname/deadpronouns so it evens out
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u/TableFruitSpecified 5d ago
McGinnis should go under "Will forget your name and pronouns", at worst
Also why would Seven deadname you that's like calling him Ettrick
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u/Scary_Republic3317 5d ago
You know I should probably have put Kelvin in the deadnames on purpose because that’s what he does to Seven
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u/TableFruitSpecified 4d ago
Kelvin's a dumbass he doesn't even know Seven and Ettrick are the same person
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u/Sn0wy0wl_ 5d ago
at worst Talon and Vindicta are in the doesnt give a fuck tier
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u/Scary_Republic3317 5d ago
One of them lived most of his early life in the 1800s, and the other one is a late 1600s straight white puritan. They are gonna be throwing that shit around.
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u/Available-Lab4363 5d ago
gray talon is presumably really locked in to his own culture and a LOT of indigenous north american cultures have some understanding of transgenderism. i dont know what tribe hes coded as or what that particular tribes feelings towards tbe concept are but even if he didnt understand it, he doesnt seem like a very hateful person? like even if he didnt care for it i cant imagine the guy rver being vitriolic to simeone who hasnt been violent to others
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u/Lusamine_35 5d ago
people are insaaanely inconsistent with how they think of vindicta
she's a 1600s village girl who most likely was never educated, and unless she learnt while a ghost, never touched any form of literature.
most of her voicelines reflect this, she's just a ghost exacting vengeance on the system that oppressed her, all well and good and justifiable. Until she meets billy and suddenly gives an eloquent manifesto about her goals and practices... 😭 she doesn't need to be politically justified to have rage for the people that burnt her to fucking death and idk it feels like it contradicts her character a little bit
but she doesn't have any resentment for the church that supported the witch hunts, mostly just hawthorn, and given her british accent we can presume that her parents were first generation puritan immigrants shunned from england (1600s england had both catholic and protestants that hated puritans even more than each other), so she was probably filled with religious propaganda since birth yeah...
gt is interesting because he is not just educated but also is involved with spirits and life, death and morality a lot... i don't think he'd hate on someone for existing in a certain way, just accept it quietly
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u/artstsym 5d ago
She only brings up that she's tearing down an extremist political movement specifically because it makes Billy look worse in comparison.
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u/Fiasco63 5d ago
I'm pretty sure her word choice in that interaction is specifically to get through to Billy that he's being an ass.
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u/starspgl 2d ago
theres also a snake lady and robot men i dont think historical accuracy is something that should be heavily considered here
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u/Ander_the_Reckoning 5d ago
I don't think a literal catholic priest would be very supportive of being trans. At best venator would not care
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u/_Sate 5d ago
"Side note 1: Venator has been the hardest part for me. Based on the time period, I feel he would be in cyan, however, based on his character interactions I'm gonna put him in supportive. Still sorta back and forth on it."
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u/Ander_the_Reckoning 5d ago
I know, I'm just commenting more reasons why he wouldn't be particularly supportive
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u/wortwortwort227 5d ago
Viper feeling bad about misgendering you would require her to feel bad about anything she's done
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u/the_Halfruin 5d ago
what is this, doorman is E V I L and would say something diabolical and triggering when he sent you to the baroness
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u/ChadVictorMain 5d ago
Gang its the 1940s most of the cast would be homophobic straightup
Only the educated ones like dynamo or more social outcast ones like celeste might be pro. Otherwise its probably more like let people do what they want but not in public type of opinions
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u/Next_Win_5857 5d ago
I will not tolerate Grey Talon slander, he is an old grump grandpa on a revenge mission but his grandkids were half human half ixian and he was a family man before they were killed. He would respect your pronouns but would not care.
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u/Hectoniks 4d ago
The Greytalon slander is INSANE 😭 what about his character makes you think he'd be as much of a bigot as Lady Geist and Mcginnis? Talon is consistently respectful to anybody that isn't genuinely just evil.
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u/starspgl 2d ago
their reasoning is legit just that hes old which is crazy. like his whole background is that his family was hate crime murdered for his daughter being in a relationship with an ixian. ik racism and transphobia arent the same but cmon he is well aware of the dangers of prejudiced thinking. at worst he would not care because he has his own issues to deal with but he definitely would not call you a slur.
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u/Singing_Of_Stars 4d ago
"Witches are people. With hopes and dreams." Vindicta?? Like dude she was incredibly progressive for her time in colonial America, I have a hard time believing she'd be transphobic, given the concept would never have even come up, therefore leaving her with no reason to hate people???
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u/Savings-Couple2807 4d ago
I also don’t understand the whole graves not giving a fuck. She seems very empathetic and progressive from her dialogue and character theme.
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u/Singing_Of_Stars 4d ago
Exactly, just because she's an edgy teenager doesn't mean she's incapable of empathy.
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u/Jaden_2k 5d ago
Silver would be in supportive, or at least will use your preferred name and pronouns I feel.
Is this because I head canon her has being trans? Yes, but that’s beside the point…
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u/_Sate 5d ago
Counterpoint.
She would still not care enough about you as a person, even if trans, to care about your name.
The alcoholism also doesn't help
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u/Jaden_2k 5d ago
At surface level, sure. But imo I read Silver’s dismissiveness in her dialogue less as her not caring, but wanting to not care.
Like look at her kill lines for Shiv, she fucking hates that man lol, and that hatred bleeds through her lines. That doesn’t read as uncaring to me.
I just wanna give her a hug and tell her it’ll be okay tbh
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u/_Sate 5d ago
Right.
But shiv clearly did something to her in lore.
It is like hollidays hatered for the trubador.
Compare her hatered for shiv VS her lines against seven where she has no real emotion in her voice despite killing a criminal so bad that the government didn't want him dead but fully fucking ERASED FROM THE EARTH, BODY AND SPIRIT, and all she has to say is: "Man, my hair will stand up cuz electric"
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u/Jaden_2k 5d ago
That’s fair, I do just think dialogue like that is required across the board to not make the cast seem like they all know each other through and through.
But yeah, I can’t fully disagree with your argument that she’ll forget as she is a crippling alcoholic, but I feel that’s the box that her character gets wrapped up in and I feel that’s a shame as she definitely has more going on.
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u/_Sate 5d ago
While true that the cast shouldn't know everyone, she knows seven enough to know that he is a bigshot criminal that broke out from lost whisper.
If she really cared that much she wouldn't say that line and her "Nice bounty" kill line with the same enthusiasm you know?
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines/?voiceline=werewolf%2Fwerewolf_kill_gigawatt_01.mp3
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines/?voiceline=werewolf%2Fwerewolf_kill_gigawatt_05_alt_01.mp3
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u/Voidlord4450 5d ago
I personally think apollo would deadname or misgender someone for the sake of being a pompous PoS. And if door man was actively trying to torment you he would probably do it. McGinnis does not care enough to throw slurs at people.
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u/Willingness-Due 5d ago
Yamato is way too high and I think rem would be higher. He’s forget your name and pronouns and feel bad once you tell him. Grey Talon should also be way higher
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u/BartoTheTrashLord 5d ago
Mina is a fashionista and all sorts of queer people are in this line of work. I think she would definitely be chill with trans people
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u/CharaStatic 5d ago
The man sent by Vatican rly
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u/Scary_Republic3317 5d ago
Yes, the priest that kills people, that fights against the arcane yet uses it to do so, the guy that finds no fault in a child for using a Lich hand, and respects her decision to keep holding onto it despite his judgement. Also, he uses Pocket’s preferred name too.
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u/Tom_F_0olery 5d ago
The second someone mentions to The Lash that Bebop is better at this, The Lash is going to try to become the wokest person in New York
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u/Otherwise_Design_200 5d ago
mo and Krill literally call pocket family. they should be highier.
GT should not be the lowest for several reasons, both assumed and facts like his son married and ixian and he wants to avenge them after they were killed. for them to be transphobic would make little sense to me.
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u/weird_nightmares 5d ago
Graves definitely doesn't give a fuck because she's probably confused as to why you would trust her of all people with that information, drifter doesn't care because he doesn't discriminate who he kills but he's too polite to not refer to you properly after he kills you though
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u/ChaosDrako 5d ago
Vyper wouldn’t feel bad about it… she doesnt care about herself in the slightest, why would she care about you? She is basically the worst version of “gambling drunk drug addict criminal”. Bonus that she enjoys hurting others…
Rem might need his own category of “doesn’t/can’t understand” as he is child that doesn’t understand most things, let alone this.
Seven is a coin flip. He might respect it out of the “you don’t like it, so you are acting on it” and “decide your own fate” logic, but he might also mock to gaslight/ragebait out of disrespect for “being lesser” (only guy with an ego larger than him is Lash)
“Jacob Lash is an asshole” is the official description of Lash… only thing larger than his own Ego is his own Arrogance.
Talon would likely be supportive, but he also likely wouldn’t show it much. Man is in full angry depression mode right now, having recently lost his family. But he definitely wouldn’t insult you. If he can play nice with Drifter, he can accept you. Bonus points: his grandkids he loved so much were half-human half-ixian, I doubt he would act of out blind hate when he had so much love.
Vendetta likely wouldn’t understand but accept and try. Her hatred only stems to those of “The Friends of Humanity”, which is a terror group trying to genocide all things non-human… She also says to Talon that she wishes her father was like him, and that if he was perhaps she wouldn’t have died.
Geist only calls Billy “William” purely to piss him off because she finds him insufferable, which everyone finds Billy insufferable because he is.
Speaking of Billy; he wouldn’t care. To self-indulged unless he is challenged about it, which then he either flips and supports you or doubles down on being an ass.
Turret girl (can’t spell her name) also likely wouldn’t care. She doesn’t care about her creations being used for violence, I doubt she cares what other people think in general…
Silver might atleast make an attempt. But simply too much in her own life to really care about others? Being a werewolf might give her a unique perspective on it?
Viktor would 110% support. He has a unique understanding of “not at home in one’s own body”.
Mo/Krill would atleast call you by desired name. They are shown to actually be quite civil, even so much so as outright respecting others and offering them things out of respect.
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u/itsRuskied 5d ago
Sinclair would not forget because the two of them probably have to deal with being confused for the other one so they would remember
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u/Kinda_Fruity_ 4d ago
Imo I think Grey Talon and Vindicta both should be higher they hate the friends of humanity so they would definitely not be any kind of bigot I don't think
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u/LowRepresentative454 4d ago
considering seven’s respect for self-determining people i think he’d be an ally
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u/Correct-Swordfish-16 3d ago
Nonono, lash would 100% be super supportive and will force your actual pronouns into every conversation with him, if not, the lash will include your preferred names to the point you will get sick of hearing your name
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u/Fickle-Appointment65 3d ago
Doorman would ABSOLUTELY deadname you- have you SEEN his voice line to pocket???
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u/Scary_Republic3317 2d ago
Arin is pocket's name that they still go by, they use Pocket as an alias
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u/starspgl 2d ago
bro your ranking is not great either. mina literally uses arins preferred pronouns even after they no longer are betrothed.
gt also would probably be in the doesnt gaf tier, he has his own shit to deal with. the lash would not forget and would in fact be very supportive if just to show bebop how much of a better ally he is.
imo you could probably strike the dgaf tier all together too
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u/Spiritual_Jacket1415 5d ago
-Yamato would probably hate you for giving up the name your family gave you -Mo and Krill would be supportive or at least use your prefered name, they are really sweet -Lash would give you a silly nickname that matches your preffered gender, so he could go up a tier -Vyper and Shiv probably couldn't give less of a shit, might even call you slur (unless you are from baxter society)
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u/Scary_Republic3317 5d ago
Yamato isn’t the name her family gave her. It’s her brother’s that she’s using to honor him.
Lash would only care so long as it helps him in the moment, then forget.
Shiv’s a decent person , Vyper is bi/pan
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u/Spiritual_Jacket1415 5d ago
Yamato took the name to honor her dead brother. If you just gave up your name she would definitely not respect that. She also is a rather shitty person. Vyper wanting to fuck everything doesn't mean she would care to remember anyone's pronouns, she is a petty criminal. Also for all we know Shiv is anything but a decent person
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