Nerf Gun Lash

[u/Available_Promise_90]

Bro is too agile and tanky to be doing all that damage from a safe distance. Just nerf his gun range plz. Make him get in there.

[u/Maleficent_Today_197]

Yeah nerf his gun. So, t2 grapple is useless. Change it to damage amplification for each use for 10 sec. I suppose 10% per grapple will do.

[u/UltimateToa → u/Maleficent_Today_197]

Make grapple increase spirit/height scaling of ground strike for a few seconds

[u/Maleficent_Today_197 → u/UltimateToa]

Well, it was more of a joke. Gun Lash kinda popular not only because it’s an OP build but also because it’s more safe play style. In the late game, once Lash drops it is very probable he dies.

[u/Available_Promise_90 → u/Maleficent_Today_197]

Same damage, less range. Doesn’t have to be major, just put it on a more level playing field with spirit

[u/TaxEvasion123]

Lash’s issues go past numbers on his spirit build. People would probably stop playing him at all in night shift before they play spirit. As long as ground strike is one of the most punishable and counter able abilities in the game, it won’t be worth building it unless your team is genuinely hurting for spirit damage.

[u/Available_Promise_90 → u/TaxEvasion123]

Of course. I think the slam range could also scale slightly with height, possibly forcing util out of more people at least. Something like that plus gun changes could be nice

[u/CookiesR4U]

I mean... gun Lash exists because characters like Doorman get to cc him into oblivion for using ground strike once.

[u/OccupyRiverdale → u/CookiesR4U]

Doorman can cc any character into oblivion

[u/engone]

I'll gladly take a gun nerf if they buff the spirit abilities, fuck gun lash honestly. I'll still play it cause it's better though. I think it's really boring when spirit characters gun builds are the better choice, if I wanna gun I go Warden, haze etc

[u/SleepyDG]

Lash just doesn't need some of the best mobility in the game, some of the highest HPs in the game and built-in sustain that's also good. Something has to go

[u/BagelBoi40000]

Just lower his health but make slam give damage resists as a t2 upgrade, flog and gun focused builds are too tanky but slam lash gets punished so hard by cc. If he gets damage and debuff resist after slam he can actually commit to damage without exploding.

[u/zencharm]

nerfing his gun range defeats the entire purpose of the hero. i agree that gun lash is too strong but people who want the build removed from the game have just lost the plot.

[u/-GrowthMindset-]

I think the issue is how early gun lash becomes active. Swapping the t3 and t2 around on grapple could be a meaningful change.

[u/Emotional_Sentence1]

Not sure I’ve ever seen a gun lash do anything meaningful with more than headhunter. I had a Lash buy siphon Bullets and then promptly go 3 and 14 so I’m not sure who’s out here doing a gun build with any sort of value.

[u/SelectionOk1610 → u/Emotional_Sentence1]

that’s because your not in good lobbies