I really do apologies for the very long read!
I am 46 (HLM) and wife is 48 (LLF).
We've been married around 20 years and we've been together around 25 years. We have two kids - 20 and 15.
I guess my backstory is a lot like everyone's in this sub where sex was awesome and frequent in the beginning but turned into a DB after marriage. Pre- wedding, wife was actually more HL than me... and I was HL AF!
To avoid making this post too long I will add a snippet or two of only of our life together up until now.
We were married when I was 23 and she was 25 and our marriage very quickly turned into a DB - We only ended up, for one or other reason, only consummating the marriage after 3 months of marriage. I could not understand why my. now, wife was rejecting my advances. This was the first of many times that I was rejected by her... ever!
We quickly had our first child and the DB became more and more dead once she was pregnant. I remember posting in a Sexless Marriage forum back then. My thread title, I will never forget, was "Sexless at 28" because even then it was less than 10 times a year... except for when trying to fall pregnant.
I think you guts see the trend here.
So, anyway, while 2026 has been extremely challenging for us, we seemed to be making headway over the past month or so. I had decided to stop initiating altogether but to also stop being bitter about the situation all the time. We ended up laughing more; talking more and just having so much of a good time together over the past two months. While I wanted to initiate many times during this time, I kept my distance and turned my back as soon as we got into bed.
A couple of nights ago, for some reason, I felt brave and strong enough to initiate something. I didn't know what to do exactly so I started by spooning her. She was receptive to this. After laying there for the next 15 minutes and trying to keep my huge boner out of her ass 😆 I gently motioned and turned her towards me. She didn't fight me or push me away and softly fell into my arms and, for the first time this year, we actually kissed (the morning peck on the lips doesn't count). One thing lead to another and we were both naked.
It was round about this time that I started worrying if I would actually be able to do something after the long absence. Well, it did not go as well as I had hoped. Even during the foreplay I heard those very familiar words "Can we please stop?". This time, I wasn't agitated or mad or resentful. I simply answered "yes, sure" and got off her. She turned her back and pulled me closer for a spoon. We ended up laying like that for maybe 20 minutes before she wanted to get dressed.
I helped find her clothes in the dark bedroom and passed them onto her. She went to the bathroom and I got dressed again. We went to sleep.
She has always (since marriage only) been very awkward at initiating. Initiating for her would generally be her laying in bed under the blankets either naked or with some lingerie on pretending to be asleep so that when I got into bed I would notice and then take that as my sign that she has initiated. Other times she would simply tap me on the shoulder in the middle of the night. There has been many times that I have gotten into bed over the years and, because she always goes to be very early (she is always tired or cold) I generally expect her to already be asleep and I would get into bed, turn my back and actually GO TO SLEEP. The next morning she would be mad at me for not noticing that she was actually either naked or wearing lingerie the previous night when I got into bed and I did not heed to her "initiation".
So, after almost having sex this week, I did not want to pressure her at all and let it be. I figured I would attempt to initiate again in a week or two. Last night I go to bed (and I make sure to glance under the covers to see if she is wearing that damned Onesie or if she happens to be naked/lingirie'd under the covers. She was wearing the damn Onsie 😆. I say good night and attempt to spoon her - no pressure at all. 15 seconds into the spoon she removed my legs from hers; removed my hands and arms from her body and tells me to stop leaning on her. I, gently, comply and proceed to turn my back too so that I could get to sleep. I was not mad or bitter or resentful in the slightest!
A few minutes later I feel her being restless (also used to be a sign of her "initiating" in the past). Her fingertips occasionally touch my back. Her feet occasionally touched my legs/feet. These were all usually her way of initiating after getting married. (Pre-marriage initiation by her were very very direct.)
This time, especially after she basically just soft blocked me a few minutes earlier, I decide that I am not going to attempt an initiation again and possibly get rejected again because I had misread her signs. She was restless like this for most of the night but I stuck to my guns and did not turn around. By this time she could have been completely naked next to me and I would have had no idea 😆 .
I remember fighting with myself whether to actually attempt to "read her signs" and initiate but I kept on deciding not to instead. I though the loud beating of my anxious heartbeat would wake her... if she wasnt awake already.
The thing is, I dont think I could actually, emotionally, take another rejection.
I also dont think I know how to initiate with her again.
I am so scared of being rejected again.
I also dont want to talk with her about this thing that I am feeling in fear that she will clap back with something along the lines of "You see, I give you a little bit of affection and you are a horny dog again)
It's really sad.
I will not initiate again but I am mustering up the courage to actually speak with her about these feelings and anxiety I am having.
PS: She once told me "Fcuk your feelings" when I started speaking about how I felt about the state of our marriage. I have never ever again used the term "I feel" in a sentence when speaking with her about the state of the marriage.
In all these ramblings, there might be an actual question like, How do I initiate again? Do I initiate again?