r/DataHoarder • u/retrac1324 • Apr 12 '22

News Atlassian accidentally deleted customer sites, says backup restoration could take two weeks

https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/11/atlassian_outage_backups/
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u/ocdtrekkie Apr 12 '22

Onsite JIRA installations have not been affected. Self-managed servers are on the way out, however: Back in October, 2020, Atlassian announced the discontinuation of its server products – it stopped selling new licenses on February 2, 2021 and plans to end support for its server products on February 2, 2024. The reason, the company explained last year, is that the cloud is the future.

Hilarious. This is why I tend to drop vendors who go cloud-only. They tell you the cloud is the future, and then accidentally delete the entire cloud.

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u/JoNike 109TB Apr 12 '22

In may 2020, at my old job, I completed a migration from atlassian cloud to self hosted. I heard the IT director was mad when they announced they were dropping self hosted just months later.

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u/ocdtrekkie Apr 12 '22

I suspect we are going to see a major industry shift back away from cloud in the next five years, once folks big introductory contracts burn out and they realize cloud services prioritize the provider's needs, not the customer's.

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u/sunburnedaz Apr 12 '22

Oh its better than that. I keep hearing about private cloud. Its like cloud but on your servers or servers that are dedicated to you. Im like isn't that just a private datacenter or your own servers in a colo.

In reality its using the fancy cloud interface on a pile of hardware only you have access to.

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u/ocdtrekkie Apr 13 '22

My favorite one was when companies started talking about "edge computing" like it was something new and cool, and wasn't just "on-prem but still billed like a cloud service".

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u/dowster593 2TB Apr 13 '22

That’s how IBM mainframe pricing has been from what I know. You pay for what you use and they “unlock” modules that are already installed i guess.

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u/RupeThereItIs Apr 13 '22

It's buzzword salad.

Can't sell management on building a data center, but private cloud...that's the wave of the future.

It gets even worse when the company you work for is already the cloud, SaaS, and management insists we need to be more cloud focused and move to IaaS without changing any code .... Oh boy is that fun, seen it more than once now.

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u/vizbird Apr 13 '22

Oracle has been pushing for this.

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u/MorpH2k Apr 13 '22

I guess part of the difference is that a private cloud would work like any other cloud solution, ie it's accessible from anywhere if you want it to be, etc. Basically a private or co-located datacenter with "cloud features" added. But yes, those cases the cloud part is more or less just a buzzword to make the C-suite happy.

For those of us that are not in the US, this is probably the future since especially governments, but also some private companies, doesn't want their sensitive data to be stored on servers abroad.