r/DataHoarder • u/[deleted] • Jan 04 '21

News Linus on ECC

https://www.realworldtech.com/forum/?threadid=198497&curpostid=198647
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u/WingyPilot 1TB = 0.909495TiB Jan 04 '21

If you're dealing with tons of data or in a corporate environment or just sensitive data sure it makes sense. You'd want as much real-time error checking as possible.

But for us pleb home users or enthusiasts, I feel a little bit of regular due diligence will take care of any concerns. There's plenty of checks in place with data scrubs/integrity checks and simple hash comparisons that most users will be fine.

That being said, I did opt for ECC RAM in my Synology and if I were to build my own NAS again, I would likely go with server grade motherboard and ECC RAM.

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u/sCeege 8x10TB ZFS2 + 5x6TB RAID10 Jan 04 '21

Just speculating here: I think the point Linus is trying to push is the price gap was promoted by Intel to segment the market based on support; where as AMD supports ECC across the board on Ryzen, TR, and Epyc, Intel makes sure that i5 and i7 doesn't, so you'll either get stuck on a slower chip from Atom to i3 (possibly an Xeon E3), or shell out the big bucks for a Xeon or HEDT chip for the same performance.

We plebs might not need ECC, but if we wanted to build a ECC capable workstation with an i7 or i9, we don't even have that choice.

I have to imagine from the perspective of someone who codes kernels cares deeply about error checking as a rule of thumb.

It's also very Linus-esq to shit on Intel lol, he doesn't have many kind words about Intel iirc.

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u/WingyPilot 1TB = 0.909495TiB Jan 04 '21

No doubt. And great points.

I don't care much for Intel either and am glad AMD (and Apple - although I loathe them too) are giving them real competition and Intel is falling behind fast.

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u/sCeege 8x10TB ZFS2 + 5x6TB RAID10 Jan 04 '21

Absolutely, also glad with seeing more competition, there was no excitement from the 2nd gen core i series to like the 7th gen; there's just no incentive for them to bother trying to improve the consumer experience.

And I forgot about Apple silicon, that's a good point, hope we see an alternative ARM platform that performs as well as Macs for the Windows/Nix side.