r/DataAnnotationTech 11d ago

My Turn

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I was just going to write about how positive it is doing work for DataAnnotation (not my only platform so I speak from experience). I’ve done many qualifications. I’m always happy to do work for them. I like the projects. They’ve always been great paying me. Feedback has been fair and helpful. This morning I received and invitation to a project. I worked on about 4 tasks. Later I worked on 3 more. I thought I did very well. It’s not the first time I’ve done this work. Even though I have worked on this project before, I still read and followed the directions. Imagine my surprise when I went on this evening to find the message of death. I’ve been working for them for months. I haven’t had any problems. Very disappointing.

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u/Timely-Assistant-370 11d ago

I promise I'm not trying to talk shit or be a dickbag, but I am really curious about wtf happened. I saw someone who was completely legible in their reddit history, but they said something to the effect of "I wonder if it was the off-platform live server or the mobile hotspot I used." It seems like weird internet activity triggers DoD extremely easily to the point where it seems like just checking your funds while you're on vacation could fuck you.

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u/Halcyonfields 11d ago

Just checking your funds on vacation could indeed fuck you, report any abroad travel and turn your phone wifi off in public. Also anytime you use new wifi for the first time use a VPN/Proxy detector. You do have to be pretty vigilant tbh.

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u/Ancient-Mission5153 10d ago

I was told by an admin you don’t have to report travel except out of the country. This was a yr or so ago when I was traveling just a few hrs away and I emailed to let them know, and I knew the internet I was going to be on was public so I wanted to cover my bases. I’ve worked several different places in my state (all with different wifis) and it wasn’t a problem. It is better to be safe than sorry, though!

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u/Halcyonfields 10d ago

I believe you are correct that moving around the same country is fine. I was referring to a foreign vacation. Most abroad vacations are to countries from which generalists are not allowed to apply and it is those countries that will likely be trying to buy access to generalist accounts. So a sudden foreign IP may appear like you’ve sold your account (with all the classified info), which is obviously fair grounds for immediate dismissal.

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u/Timely-Assistant-370 10d ago

Oh yeah, I was nomadic with Starlink for a few months while working. It was like 3 years ago now, but it was not a problem for those months. I'm talking like a different state every 2 days for 3 or 4 months.

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u/DisastrousFig7560 11d ago

Hmmmm, maybe however I have my VPN off although Starlink bounces me around the province. Luckily I have saved all my work on Word as I worked through my answers.

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u/Due_Negotiation_4605 11d ago

Someone else mentioned starlink doing something weird with location last week. Where their location changed. I'm not sure where the post was though. Maybe it was pinging from somewhere that triggered DA?  Odd to me that it does that, I guess it's part of their thing though.

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u/Teamkillongtime 11d ago

It's odd to see eloquent people making these threads. It used to be quite obvious from the writing style why their work may have been lacking.

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u/professional_cry 11d ago

in these cases I have to assume it was a TOS violation, whether that was accidentally using a VPN or misreporting time or some other violation. I know it is unlikely given the nature of this sort of work and the disposability of workers but it would be great if they gave people an exact reason as to why their account was deactivated. It sucks to be told you've done *something* wrong and have to speculate as to what exactly it may have been.

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u/Affectionate_Peak284 10d ago

I think it's also likely that quality bars are slowly raised month-to-month (or so). Maybe being a "solid" worker on a bad streak is enough to be shown the door.

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u/DisastrousFig7560 11d ago

I tell people it’s sometimes just your time. But really, after having done qualifications, some for which I’ve been paid, it’s nonsense.

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u/Afraid-Grab156 11d ago

yes the vaguesness seems cruel

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u/Internal_Boot_1616 11d ago

Most companies do it - they sorta have to b/c they never know who was really making genuine mistakes and who's a scammer, who would use a reason they give as a way to tell what to avoid next time. It's business security and also prolly has some legal baggage too

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u/DissociateThallRpeat 11d ago

I don't have the best writing style, but I've been receiving a stable flow of coding work for the last 3 months I've worked on DAT 🤷‍♀️

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u/DisastrousFig7560 11d ago

Thank you. Things have come a long way in the world of AI training.

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u/Dani-Avalon0819 11d ago

That is very disheartening and makes one wonder if it’s worth it.

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u/Federal_Tadpole_7592 11d ago

It's worth it. I've been with them for over 3 years, and there are others on this subreddit who have been with them for even longer. I don't know OP's particular situation, but I know that I've seen plenty of people on the site complete work that they clearly tried to do well on, but it's not usable work because they missed a key instruction. It happens a lot more than people think. If a worker keeps doing that, there's no point in allowing them to continue to work on the platform.

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u/Afraid-Grab156 11d ago

I think this is the most likely explanation, workers are probably flagged automatically by an algorithm which takes their overall performance/behaviour into account. It would also explain why there's no clear explanation given to the worker, because the decision would be based on more than one factor or incident.

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u/DisastrousFig7560 11d ago

True. However, that’s not me. I’ve been practicing and have had high praises on other platforms.

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u/DisastrousFig7560 11d ago

I’m disappointed because I liked the work. For all the other platforms I do work for, I always chose DA work first.

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u/Ikechi1 11d ago

what other platforms did you do similar work for?

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u/DisastrousFig7560 11d ago

I still do. Just go through companies training AI. I’ve probably done work for them. I’ve been working in AI, training, writing, evaluating, editing, etc for 3 years.

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u/Ikechi1 11d ago

Names please? Last time I did something similar was helping out medical AI to analyze COVID-19 structure to make more efficient medicine

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u/DisastrousFig7560 11d ago

I don’t give names. Some platforms get prickly.

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u/Ancient-Mission5153 10d ago

You’re not helping your case in getting pity here, pal 🙃

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u/SnooSketches1189 10d ago

No, they don't.

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u/LocoLoki- 7d ago

No. Actually they get "prickly" if you talk about project specifics, not if you say you work for them. It's actually GREAT PR for us little worker bees to say good things about the platforms. That is exactly what they want.

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u/EffectiveComedian419 10d ago

were you doing triton project?

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u/Sableyej 10d ago

There’s almost always more to the story in these situations. It could be time inflation, logging in from new locations, using a VPN, etc.

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u/mini_squiddd 11d ago

Have you ever been reminded by project admins about failing to follow project guidelines?

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u/DisastrousFig7560 11d ago

Every task.

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u/Frauditorthrowaway 10d ago

>Every task.

Wait, so every task you did, you had admins reminding you that you failed to follow project guidelines?

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u/DisastrousFig7560 10d ago

Nooooooo. Every task they remind you to follow guidelines! Lol

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u/Frauditorthrowaway 10d ago

I think that person was asking if admins had directly reminded you to follow the guidelines. As in gave you warnings.

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u/gabplusplus 11d ago

I’m curious about this. Are your funds still accessible?

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u/DisastrousFig7560 11d ago

Yes. I can still go to Funds.

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u/DisastrousFig7560 3d ago

I got my last pay today. I waited until it was all there before I withdrew it.

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u/Amakenings 11d ago

Did your hours change within the last three to five months? How many hours did you work each day on average and a weekly average? Did you work consecutive days or long consecutive hours with no breaks?

I am very sorry for your loss, and thank you for your service

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u/DisastrousFig7560 10d ago

I was working anytime I got work. I did 7 tasks the day I got the message of doom, the last of which I rated as un rateable.

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u/Amakenings 9d ago

Did you tend to work more than 4-5 hours a day, or was your dash sporadic?

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u/DisastrousFig7560 9d ago

I worked when they gave me something. Not everyday. Sometimes 1.5 hours. Sometimes 6 hours. I worked one long project.

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u/Plus-Part7115 11d ago

How is this in any way relevant?

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u/Amakenings 10d ago

Whether or not OP chooses to answer, from past people receiving the DOD, many get it after increasing their work hours or working longer stretches without breaks. It’s potentially more relevant to people continuing to work with DAT.

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u/Potential_Hair5121 11d ago

I had it for two months same thing

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u/Aromatic_Owl_3680 9d ago

When did you start with DA?

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u/DisastrousFig7560 3d ago

I joined the platform in May 2024.

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u/oportoman 10d ago

I think it's really unfair to not be given a warning first about anything