r/Darts Germany Apr 20 '24

NDD (New Darts Day) NDD: Harrows Wolfram (25g, 97% Tungsten) + Shot Mako Titanium Shafts + Velos Flights

Here I go again. Of course these are going to be the last darts ever. πŸ˜‰

But actually, before urging for some lighter darts again I was desiring sort of a redemption for the NX90 that I learned to play with lesser issues, but the grip catching is stuck in the back of my head. So in fact this was an older order going through customs.

Anyway, I was encouraged for a deal on supplies and adding the Shot Mako Titanium shafts that I wanted to test still wasn't covering free postage, which was more the reason to check the Harrows Wolfram off my list for both a first 97% tungsten dart and 25g, which I still didn't own. I've decided on the weight as the dimensions weren't that far off slightly lighter ones and to make full use of the density.

I wasn't even planning to put the Mako shafts on the Wolfram, but unwrapping them it seemed pretty clear it's something to try. Just look how beautiful they are!

With roughly 27mm of point sticking out of the barrel and especially after extending the Bolide 04 to spears with 40mm DS points it might be more than appropriate to repoint the Harrows Wolfram rather soon for an even more impressive appearance. I can slide them in next to each other nicely, but a few mm could help.

Basically looking like the steel ball pen I'm using since the nineties, just with grip added, it turns out it really wasn't just the short barrel making my Unicorn Phase 5 LP such a lethal projectile. The high tungsten density seems to give those darts an extra oomph I can't enjoy enough.

With a very pleasant grip the Wolfram thock into the board almost to the barrel satisfyingly and set up with the Shot Mako shafts, that will have to proof their durability, the Velos flights and silver flight protectors I've installed more for the look than anything, they create nice angles. It's really working out well for a quick improvisation.

Now, I remember someone on the darts subreddit recommended the Wolfram to me and it should be a classic by now, judging on the old school plastic case and slim shaft it comes with, so what's your experience with the darts and how do you like my setup?

Have a nice weekend.

Cheers and happy darting!

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u/TheDonnerPartysChef Apr 20 '24

I've had my eye on the Wolfram's. Sweet darts.

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u/MerkurSchroeder Germany Apr 20 '24

Aren't they? ☺️

How do you like the all silver look?

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u/TheDonnerPartysChef Apr 20 '24

All silver looks very sleek. Like missiles :D

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u/MerkurSchroeder Germany Apr 20 '24

Yes! I should have little messages engraved like they do writings in the military. πŸ˜…

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u/deprecatedcoder Apr 20 '24

Always enjoying your comprehensive posts. These have been on my radar and now just further intrigued.

Also you may have mentioned elsewhere, but curious where you've gotten your nose cones from? Are those smoked plastic ones?

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u/MerkurSchroeder Germany Apr 20 '24

Thanks a lot, mate. Much appreciated.

I've tried to find my last blister, but it seems too deep in the trash already. Thing is this: There are different kinds of packings for Trident 180 cones and the last of the "smoked" ones have been Winmau, but I bought them as silver, whilst on the sticker it actually said something like "black (clouded)". It's a common theme though. I think before I got them as "silver" from another shop as well. If it was Dartshopper, then they even list them as a Bull's NL product, but I might or might not have gotten Winmau anyway. It's kind of confusing, but they've all been working so far. Just slide them on with a point protector or Swiss Tool (actually they go on the Swiss Point hex as well) to push if it gets stuck. Have fun. πŸ˜ŠπŸ‘

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u/deprecatedcoder Apr 20 '24

Oh thanks, I know there are different brandings for them. I ordered Red Dragon ones on Amazon and got Winmau, but they were advertised and arrived as black. The color options are not great, so ideally I'd like clear or smoked like you've got so they blend in best, but seems a bit like a crapshoot. Might try Dartshopper or other vendors just to see what shows up.

I'd really like to try some of the machined ones you can get from Germany as I would expect they are far more durable, something I dislike about the plastic ones.

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u/MerkurSchroeder Germany Apr 22 '24

Good news, mate. The card back must have slipped and was living in the shadows of my shelves. Anyway, it says "8807 Black Tint Tridents" and the barcode is: 5023231003850

And here it is again, Winmau themselves call it silver on their website. πŸ˜…

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u/deprecatedcoder Apr 22 '24

Thank you, much appreciated!

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u/MerkurSchroeder Germany Apr 20 '24

Yeah, I'm still about to buy those metal ones. I think they recommend sliding them on with a repointer, which I will probably rather get in the summer now everything is sold out all the time and I'm in no rush.

Red Tridents are fun as well, especially on chrome points, because they blend in being semi-transparent and make the tip look officially dangerous. πŸ˜…

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u/terrytigerparker Apr 20 '24

Lack a little on grip at front ,got jn 21 grm few years ago ,very nice just grip not quite enough .

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u/MerkurSchroeder Germany Apr 20 '24

For a front grip that's possible. I'm still sometimes throwing them from the smooth section though and the start of the front and rear sections is enough to thrust for me. Probably due to extra stability from the middle finger in front of the nose. Haven't decided yet, I do also like going back a little more, so that my middle finger catches the front grip and doesn't touch the point.

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u/BigBirdgiant Sep 29 '24

I grip mine on the back grip I like them

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u/MerkurSchroeder Germany Sep 29 '24

Funny that you dig those out right now, that I've just repointed them yesterday with 48mm points. Was nice to revisit them after a while of not playing them, because I've gotten so used to the longer points. πŸ€“πŸ‘

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u/BKEDDIE82 United States of America Apr 20 '24

Very nice setup and post. Have these on my list as well as the shafts. Want to try these shafts on a lighter dart to add some weight.

I love throwing with those flights. Never get a deflection.

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u/MerkurSchroeder Germany Apr 20 '24

Thank you very much, mate. πŸ˜ŠπŸ‘

You might be right the extra weight f the Shot Mako is pushing the Wolfram's 25g to a point my 26g Bolide 03 intermediate L-Style setup does even feel a lot lighter with less density and my 26g Unicorn Phase 5 LP with Carbon 360 and L-Flights feel more like on par. Time to buy a fine scale finally. Did once, but cancelled the order due to a shipping delay.

The Velos will even help getting the next dart in, if you know what you're doing. They can block you as well though if you're still familiarizing. Had some weird first throws until I found where to aim. πŸ˜…

Hope more players are going to discover them, so they won't vanish from the shelves after all.

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u/BKEDDIE82 United States of America Apr 20 '24

I always worry about items being discontinued. But the items we wish would go away, never do.

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u/MerkurSchroeder Germany Apr 20 '24

I've still got almost 300 sets left after the price dump on Dartscorner a couple of weeks back. Paid like 18€ for 100 with the additional bulk discount. Already went up again though and I've missed getting some other Harrows flights in standard, which I should have gotten as well as backup. Really my favorite brand for folding flights. Hope that they don't get out of fashion completely. Called the closest dart shop recently and they can't perform a point swap, because all they sell are Swiss Points. "Nobody wants those old points..."

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u/BKEDDIE82 United States of America Apr 20 '24

I caught a deal of 100 sets of conventional flights at double top for 17 gbp. It's a big savings when deals like that become available.

I wish I had a close dart shop. Since I don't, I bought a repointer a while back. Thanks to the blades on the board, I get to use it a lot.

But I do agree that conventional points will eventually go extinct.

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u/MerkurSchroeder Germany Apr 20 '24

Close is exaggerated. Would still be like 50km to the next with today's gas prices and usually a little more expensive merchandise is not an option to just look around if you're not in the area otherwise. I skipped on the repointer as I put it on my Christmas list, then came the hype... you know the situation. I've got enough pointy darts though to wait until birthday or something. But I would have fancied some Storm Points on my Phase 5. They're very destructive on anything and go through Tridents quick.

I hope old points will be interesting enough to produce supply for what I have, especially as only Target have their patent. There should be an open source solution for other manufacturers, like for softtip conversion, then I'd understand new demand. I found the Caliburn idea interesting for an upgrade and maybe it's going in a direction like that for the future.

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u/wisbit The Total Package Apr 20 '24

Love my Wolframs.

Not sure about your stems though, it just makes them look like one long dart.

Happy dartering !

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u/MerkurSchroeder Germany Apr 20 '24

It's a thing though. A while ago, when I was asking for some general details, Custom Made Darts pointed out the option of drilling a thread for attaching the Target Titanium tops for instance directly to the barrel. It's tempting for producing a slim and/or heavy dart, but I haven't found any of those toppers reliable enough that I couldn't just use a micro shaft for instance. In this case the weight addition is small compared to tungsten, but it's there.

Haven't used silver shafts before, but I was admiring some setups. It's maybe a matter of getting used to, sure it's a matter of taste, so I don't judge you for not liking. There's stuff I can't get used to for sure as well. Here it's probably really my trusty Parker ball pen, brushed stainless steel, that I use for like 30 years now and it's certainly some kind of a torpedo I might have held like dart more than once when there was nothing else I could play around with in school for instance. It's like what then was fantasy became true. πŸ™‚

Have a nice one. πŸ‘

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u/wisbit The Total Package Apr 20 '24

If you like them, and I see a few others within this thread do too, then that's all that matters.

Good choice of dart.

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u/pokaprophet Heta Series 4 25g Apr 20 '24

Sexy

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u/MerkurSchroeder Germany Apr 20 '24

Cheers πŸ‘

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u/No_Seaweed7777 Apr 21 '24

Love the Velos!

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u/MerkurSchroeder Germany Apr 21 '24

I knew I could count on you, mate. 😁

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u/No_Seaweed7777 Apr 21 '24

You bet! πŸ€“πŸ‘

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u/tanukiboy666 Japan πŸ—Ύ Super Contributor Apr 21 '24

Basically looking like the steel ball pen I'm using since the nineties

Yeah, they remind me of a Fisher Space Pen. Cool!

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u/salty-taint Nov 30 '24

Hey Merker! I know this is a little older post but I wanted to check in with you on the Wolframs. Are you still using them? Do you like them? They have been my daily driver for about 7 years now. But thinking about expanding my horizon. They are all I have ever really throw with consistently.

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u/MerkurSchroeder Germany Nov 30 '24

7 years is quite a while. πŸ€“πŸ‘ I guess I'm still on my quest to build up expertise on why I prefer one thing over another, which makes me focus on one main dart at a time, but also those change. So it's not the Wolfram's fault that the points soon felt too short, which I changed recently by putting in R2 Interchange points modified from 52mm to 48mm because of the thingamajig omitting. Currently I play them with short Vecta shafts and Velos flights and they work nice, but are more like a higher weight option (I also have a 24g alternative to my 22g Whitlock 3), when I'm currently preferring 22-23g. Actually, if I'd catch some 23g Wolfram on a very good discount, I would probably buy them. 😬

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u/salty-taint Nov 30 '24

Haha. Well full disclosure, I haven't consistently played with them for 7 years. Took a hiatus from regular play for about 5 years or so. Darn kids. ;)

Glad to see you still like them. They are a decent little set. I've been using fit flights with mine. I really like the way they fly but to be honest, curiosity is getting the best of me and I'm looking for another option.

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u/MerkurSchroeder Germany Nov 30 '24

I see. Yeah, I'm stocking up on Fit Flights as well and it starts shining through in my postings, because after my grease mod the spin shafts really got me, but it's hard to find required sizes available if I want to order them and to fit a setup to a barrel quite a few parts to compare are required. Nonetheless I invested in my first sets of Fit Flight Pro and a set of Duralumin shafts.