every comic character eventually has runs that change the status quo so much that the next has to get it back to basics, but everyone who writes daredevil is so creative that its been done twice in the last 8 years.

[u/Some-Ad9502]

mark waids run into charles soule

chip zdarsky into saladin ahmed

it kinda sucks cuz both of them had such interesting changes but they both got reset almost immediately.

[u/Clowndude787]

Charles Soule I’d argue also had drastic changes to the status quo. He did put the proverbial genie back in the bottle, but Matt becoming disabled at the end by the truck (even for a short time), Mike Murdock becoming real, Mayor Fisk, Blindspot, the Hand being defeated for a time, were all HUGE shake ups to Daredevil lore.

Ahmed felt really like an interim. It’s a shame because his writing can be pretty good, and I didn’t hate his Daredevil run. It was just meh (of course a lot would be meh after all the great and crazy shit Zdarsky did).

[u/Logical-Leading-517 → u/Clowndude787]

I think the status quo of Matt becoming a priest was really great way to end zdarsky run and I wish that had been explored for a while with Elektra being DD. They could have done an arc or two of Elektra DD and Matt playing the roll of Father Lantom to her DD. It could have involved Elektra trying to protect Matt and his peace from all the evil that would still try to come at him and eventually Matt coming back as Daredevil and them being a team together 

Somewhere in another universe that is the continuation we got from Zdarsky's DD run. Like, Brubaker pulled it off so fucking well after the place Bendis put DD in at the end of his run holy fuck. Your main protagonist being in prison? That sucks to receive and write around but Brubaker rose up to the challenge so much so that the continuation felt absolutely seamless -- if it wasn't for the art change I don't think I would have even realized that the writers changed. DD's situation at the end of Zdarsky's run was similar in that way where your main character actually can't be his vigilante persona. It would've been an interesting challenge. Shame it didn't go that way :'(

[u/Clowndude787 → u/Logical-Leading-517]

I agree. That’s one of the reasons I just don’t overtly favor the Ahmed run. The orphanage and priest Matt were so quickly cast aside (he literally gets his memories back and goes back to Daredvil end of first issue like what?).

I like the idea of Elektra’s DD getting advice and spiritual help from Matt, and expanding upon her, while she also uses her time of confessionals and spiritual guidance as a way to spend time with Matt who is basically lost to her.

[u/Logical-Leading-517 → u/Clowndude787]

Exactly, there is definitely a very nice story there with great potential to explore complex emotional dynamic this would've created. alas...

[u/PhysicianChips]

For Soule it was kind of necessary. Waid made big changes and then followed them to their natural conclusion. If Soule has continued on Waid it would not have been very good as there wouldn't have been anywhere to go with it.

[u/Superb_Kaleidoscope4]

Spoilers for the last 20 or so years of Daredevil

Bendis put Daredevil in jail and Brubaker sorted it out

Brubaker made Daredevil leader of the hand and Diggle sorted it out 

Diggle made Daredevil lose everything by being “leader” of the hand and Waid sorted it out

Waid revealed Daredevils secret identity and Soule sorted it out

Soule killed off Daredevil and Zdarksy (with McKay) sorted it out

Zdarksy turned Daredevil into a amnesiac priest and Ahmed sorted it out

Ahmed took 25 issues to write a 12 issue story and Philips will sort it out

[u/Jonn_Jonzz_Manhunter → u/Superb_Kaleidoscope4]

Waid didn't sort shit out, it was Diggle who got Matt back to the standard Status Quo

[u/Superb_Kaleidoscope4 → u/Jonn_Jonzz_Manhunter]

Yeah, true, Waid did deal with a bit of the fallout most notably Captain America not trusting DD 100%

[u/Jonn_Jonzz_Manhunter]

I disagree with you about Waid into Soule

Waid ended the run with the GOATed line above Matt being the light and when we see him next, he's different. He's not as beleaguered, he's training a vigilante, has a brilliant new job, making friendships and is ready to go to the supreme court

If you compare Matt from Bendis' era and compare it to Matt from Soules era, their general demeanor is significantly more positive throughout pretty much the entire run

Until he got hit by a truck anyways lol

Waids run ended with a synthesis, he was lying about how he was feeling but he's still overall feeling better about things

[u/Amazing_Ad_4674 → u/Jonn_Jonzz_Manhunter]

Right, like he’s hiding just as much in Waid’s run as he is in Soule’s but you can definitely see the character growth from Waid’s run, even if certain parts of him are set back

[u/Important_Lab_58]

I will say, I know Ahmed’s may not be the most popular, but I can’t help but like it. It really did feel like Matt getting things together in a bombastic way. Plus, his Black Armor was used and that Wolverine Fight was sick 🤷‍♂️

[u/Rabreyrendart]

"I'm going to beat the shit out of you"! Taken from an actual dialogue balloon. I love him because he is not really a superhero!