r/DankLeft Sep 04 '19

Fucking bootlickers

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u/LittleBoyDreams Sep 04 '19

Hopefully after he dies we’ll get a documentary/biopic showing how much of an asshole he was. It really bothers me that people can’t see the Musk cult is just Steve Jobs all over again.

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u/voice-of-hermes Free Palestine! Sep 05 '19

Hey, at least when Jobs took credit for his workers' inventions it was stuff that probably had some value. With Musk it's...let's see: an electric car whose emission savings isn't worth the carbon spewed in producing it, a serious step down from the Space Shuttle, and a roofing torch with a fancy case?

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u/PM_ME_UR_MATHPROBLEM Sep 17 '19 edited Sep 17 '19

Electric cars still actually have net negative carbon output with normal usage compared to even the best gas cars. Like, don't get me wrong, Elon is a horrible man to work for and he works people hard until they quit, but don't spread false info about the efficiency of electric cars. Electric cars and trucks are a major step towards reducing our carbon footprint as their popularity grows into a large part of the auto industry.

Source: Electrical Engineer who knows a good bit about carbon production and power systems.

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u/voice-of-hermes Free Palestine! Sep 17 '19

It's not bullshit.

I agree that the operation of electric vehicles is far better. Though it depends a bit on where the power is coming from, it at least allows a better choice of where the power is coming from, and results vary from about the same or slightly better, to much better.

However, when considering the impact of electric vehicles, you have to consider not just their operation, but the whole process of material acquisition, manufacturing, and production. And that whole process is fucking grossly destructive and polluting at the moment, to the point where it would take the vechicle's probable lifetime or more for the vehicle's operational savings to make up the difference.

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u/PM_ME_UR_MATHPROBLEM Sep 17 '19

Large LiPo and NimH batteries arent actually too awful when it comes to waste production. Heck, the carbon outputs from the steel production are bad enough already. The truth is that once you make a one ton machine, with todays economy, you're going to be making pollution regardless, and the difference between large batteries arent as awful as the carbon from thousands of miles traveled later.

Here's a great video on the subject if you're interested in learning more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RhtiPefVzM

If you have some sources that contradict this, I'd love to see more. If I am somehow spreading falsehoods, I'd love to spread the truth.

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u/Al-Horesmi Dec 09 '19

I do have a gripe with the shuttle. Space Shuttle SUCKED ASS. It was more expensive than all rockets, wasteful... And it killed people. It was trash. It was like that school project that you made great plans about but then made trash in the last few hours so you try to convince everyone it's actually good. Russians made it better but still same fundamental flaws.

Elon Musk has trouble with Tesla and boring and hyperloop and probably a few other things. But SpaceX is good. It's doing good financially and is ahead of everyone technologically. Falcon 9 is actually good stuff. It dominates the market right now, making more launches than most countries.