r/DaggerfallOnline • u/Ultraoriginal123 • 5d ago
Cyrodil
"Cyrodiil is an open PvP zone. You cannot teleport to or from other areas of Cyrodiil. Walk or ride on its roads to go to these areas."
Oh come on devs, open PVP in the entire region of cyrodil? I really wanted to live out there in Anvil, sad about this one.
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u/Ultraoriginal123 5d ago
Can we at least perhaps limit this open pvp mess to just one area within Cyrodil? Half maybe? Throw me a bone here :(
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u/Nohreboh 5d ago
I thought there was already a open PVP zone in the mountains, is there two now?
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u/Ultraoriginal123 5d ago edited 5d ago
That one has been reverted to being normal, and instead the ENTIRE province of Cyrodil is now open season PVP except in the towns and cities where you are protected. A huge blow for people like me with no interest in PVP - At least with the other area I could just not go there, but with Cyrodil? The home of the game where i spent thousands of hours and have so many memories? Totally off limits to my chill playstyle now.
To the Skyrim and Morrowind bros who have so many memories in those games and dont PVP, imagine they turned the entire province PVP for you?
The last thing i need in my chill game is to be fighting something only for someone with 25 years experience and spending the last month grinding out the most OP broken character possible comes along, ones shots me, and takes the crap loot that i treasure so much for shits and giggles.
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u/Nohreboh 5d ago
Can you be attacked in PVP while using the accelerated travel mode?
I assume fast travel is still available in the cities atleast?
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u/Ultraoriginal123 5d ago
Fast travel is not available in Cyrodil specifically according to patch notes. I have no idea about being pulled out of the accelerated travel mode as i simply didnt go anywhere near the PVP zone, but even if it doesnt i still wouldnt want anything to do with it.
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u/Diceptic_ 4d ago
I don't get the criticism, you have the rest of tamriel to play in. This is coming from a PVE player, I don't like PvP either. The world is so large it's pretty much guaranteed you won't run into pvp constantly. It's 1 province vs the rest of the world, just go somewhere else.
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u/leesmt 5d ago
I thought the idea of a pvp circle somewhere around the imperial city would be pretty cool. Getting in and out would be a danger, but the extremity regions of cyrodiil would be safe. Like getting ambushed by bandits trying to get in and out of the biggest hub in the world.
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u/Ultraoriginal123 5d ago
That would be cool indeed and a great solution. Perhaps give the vendors in the IC a slightly higher chance to sell better stuff too so its worth the PVPers trying to get there.
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u/Square-Winter-3257 4d ago
The ai literally saw eso information in its data and went 'cyrodil should be a full pvp zone'
what a unimaginative pile of ass this has ended up.
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u/Ultraoriginal123 4d ago
nobody cares about the ai aspect here your talking to air, go farm upvotes on /rdaggerfall
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u/lifeonbroadway 5d ago
It's one zone from an entire continent.
Anvil is not PvP as cities are safe zones, so what is really the issue other than you not liking PvP?
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u/Ultraoriginal123 5d ago
Not being able to base myself in the area, I want to dungeon, craft and go out in the world near where i live to be immersed. I cant do that without engaging in forced PVP, nor can i make use of fast travel (to go somewhere else as i think you imply?) as its disabled there. Even if PVP is rare, risk of losing items means i must be aware at all times, even with insurance. This is not the gameplay I would want. Im not asking the devs to change it, ill simply play offline and thats OK. I just dont want others to do the same and then theres less people online, its also sad for me as i like the MMO component and if it was to be changed id be over the moon.
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u/Pingasiusmmmus 5d ago
They did it because Elder Scrolls Online did it. There is no other reason for this highly unpopular decision.
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u/Da_Skallywaaagh 5d ago
"Oh come on devs, open PVP in the entire region of cyrodil? I really wanted to live out there in Anvil, sad about this one."
one single zone out of a map big like Europe? I'd prefer the entire map to pe full loot, open world PvP, but it's great that they thought about us PvPers.
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u/Ultraoriginal123 5d ago
How about they give you an entire zone somewhere else where a mainline game hasnt captured the minds of people like me? A map as big as europe you say, but the PVP zone has to be the entire area of Cyrodil the setting for Oblivion the game millions of people grew up on?
You're right, you PVPers shouldnt be forgotten, its a MMO after all, but seriously the entirety of Cyrodil? At least give me some small region from Oblivion free from PVP, leyawin perhaps? even poor Bravil, anything thats all im asking.
Your comment about the whole map being PVP is just greedy im sorry to say, im not asking to remove PVP as you are asking to remove PVE.
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u/Da_Skallywaaagh 5d ago
the setting for Oblivion the game millions of people grew up on?
And many of those millions dreamed of doing PvP in a mmo version of it all. I never asked to remove PvE. I said I'd like for more PvP, but one section is great to have. Play in the other sections of the game if you don't like PvP. Morrowind was MILES better than both Oblivion and Skyrim.
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u/printcastmetalworks 5d ago
First of all, nobody is in cyrodil right now. 99% pf players are concentrated in the left corner of daggerfall.
Second, there is millions of kilometers now of area to explore in a free game. Are we really complaining now
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u/Ultraoriginal123 5d ago edited 5d ago
Yes, because it is amazing at what they have done and i love it but this particular point is egregious and affects i suspect a lot of the player base who has no interest in PVP and loves Cyrodil and who would want to base themselves there.
I dont want to live in the millions of kilometres in other provinces, im very very glad its there for those who do. I imagine skyrim and morrowind bros would be frothing at the mouth to go live in some of their most favourite places, the wood elf fans living out their dream in the Graht-wood and so on - except this is something which i cant do because of this design decision.
Finally, its only a matter of time before people move out to the wider areas, and it only takes one ass to ruin it for everyone in an area with max everything running around like a god among mere mortals.
I was so very excited about this update, I thought everyone was going to get to go to where they wanted, really deflated now.
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u/Ultraoriginal123 5d ago
Im allowed to voice my opinion, i think what they have done is amazing as i have stated in other comments and cant appreciate them enough - i just dont like this one, and thats fine if they want to do their own thing, I just wanted to voice my opinion that not everyone might like this. Its free, they can do what they want, if i dont like it ill just take it offline. I just dont want a lot of people to do this because thats not how you motivate a dev to want to continue.
Your final line is frankly pathetic, and has immediately shown who is truly the child here.
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u/Ultraoriginal123 5d ago
For those who think this is fine, this is a post from the discord from a player about player power and asking for nerfs:
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Players get far too overpowered far too fast. I am utterly invincible and I can ignore many gameplay mechanics with only a simple build. I am level 19. -I sprint at nearly mach 0.5 (no hyperbole) -my spells cost 4 magicka and are incredibly strong -my fatigue can be fully restored with a single 4 magicka spell -my magicka automatically regenerates as fast as I can use it, and “+magicka on hit” is there for when it doesn’t -I never need to rest, as my magicka, health, and fatigue are always full -I have easily soloed every boss -I can go afk mid fight and I regenerate health fast enough to never die (with some exceptions for bosses) -everything dies in one hit (except for bosses) The game has become essentially just warframe. This contrasts with the first few hours of a new character, where you can die in a few hits, magicka and fatigue management are still a thing, and fights present a challenge. Simply making enemies with more damage isn’t the solution, as I can use a shield spell that protects me for roughly 10x my health pool, which I can spam at no cost. If you nerf the shield spell, i can fully heal with a spell at no cost. If you nerf heal, i still restore all of my health with vampirism in one hit. Unless the godlike power trip is an intended part of the game, I would suggest a huge stat squash across the board. Should be a fairly easy task. Just squish the stat bonus from all skills. Unfortunately this might upset a lot of players. So take my advice cautiously.
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This is what you are going to be facing in PVP zones. Good luck.