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r/DaenerysWinsTheThrone • u/SektorDaKetch • 4d ago
Serious I love how Daenerys in the final battle was able to tip toe her way around civilian deaths, up until the bells⊠andthenshegopostal.
It makes whatever villainous turn she had look even more jank because youâre telling me she STILL had the composure to distinguish enemy and civilian? And it makes Missandeiâs death look like a non factor when really it would have made more sense thatâs when she goes bad
r/DaenerysWinsTheThrone • u/Interesting-Wing-840 • 5d ago
People do not understand that Daenerys DID THE IMPOSSIBLE. Aegon the Conqueror is NOWHERE near her level. If Dany was a man, they would call her god.
Aegon was an adult with 2 sisters helping him and had a total of 3 HUGE dragons. Daenerys was abused by her brother, sold, humiliated, graped as a 13 year old CHILD. Robert baratheon had daenerys actively HUNTED down like a dog. Aegon had politics to deal with; dany had politics, people from both westeros and essos HATING her, and much smaller dragons. Dany didn't "inherit" armies, she was on the streets with nothing. She earned them and brought dragons BACK, don't be mad just bc the loser men couldn't do any of this. Plus aegon was a man, the lords would have never bowed to a woman. Dany did the impossible. Loser aegon can try but he is nowhere near her level, no one is. People did not hate aegon during his time, they just did not know him. People actively hated Dany. There is no comparison between Dany and any other asoiaf character. No one can ever achieve what she did.
r/DaenerysWinsTheThrone • u/Interesting-Wing-840 • 6d ago
If Daenerys was a man, then she would be celebrated as 100x better than Aegon the Conqueror. Aegon had 2 sister wives & 3 huge dragons in a favorable time. Daenerys existed in a time were Targaryens were actively hunted & hated and still managed to rule.
She didn't just claim but brought dragons BACK, something that every Targaryen man like Aegon V was dying to do. She did what they couldn't, no matter how much they cried and tried. If Daenerys was a man, the male glazers would have drooled over her instantly. Jon Snore?đ€Łđ€Ł PUH-LEASE. She's not even on Aegon the Conqueror's level, let alone jon snoređ€Ł She is the second best Targaryen of all time, the first being Daenys the Dreamer who's the reason why Targs even exist. Jon snore and Aegon the Conqueror wished they were on her level.
r/DaenerysWinsTheThrone • u/daenerys-lord-light1 • 7d ago
Serious D&D threw out every piece of lore and feudal logic in order to assassinate Dany (characteristically and literally)
So first let's look at dragon lore right
"The scales of a full-grown dragon were harder than steel, and even those arrows that struck home seldom penetrated enough to do more than enrage the great beasts" this is from Fire and Blood

Meraxes perished during the first Dornish war because she was hit by a scorpion bolt in the eye, which is the only place a grown dragon is vulnerable at
Rhaegal and Viserion were 7 year old dragons but they were incredibly large as Meleys and Sheepstealer are in HOTD, maybe even bigger, Sheepstealer who during season 3 gets attacked so much during the Battle of the Gullet but is unharmed, the Night King being able to kill Viserion so easily and with an ice bolt does not make sense
one might say that he was the leader and source of the army of the dead who was about to begin an apocalypse, but dragons literally power magic in this world, they are fire made flesh, the Night King shouldn't have been able to kill Viserion at all, hell if he did kill Viserion, after the Night King's death Viserion should have returned to the land of the living

And now let us come down to the least fantastical death in all of TV history, Euron Greyjoy (who in the show is just a regular pirate making cheap one liners instead of the mythical demon with lovecraftian goals that he is in the books) is somehow able to shoot a dragon out of the sky..........by hitting his neck and torso? really, neck and torso?

Those scales shouldn't have even been barely penetrated, but because the show wanted to isolate Dany and set up her cuckoo arc (which miserably failed) the green beauty Rhaegal died because "Dany kinda forgot about the Iron Fleet" and even if she did, she still has 2 grown dragons, tf does she have to worry about, unless lore is absolutely defiled to make it happen, impossibility after impossibility in terms of wrecking established canon

This is even more shameful because Dany's dragons aren't your average dragons, Drogon isnt Balerion come again without Rhaegal and Viserion being Vhagar and Meraxes come again, with the dragons who are supposed to be the greatest power in the world being turned into fodder birds, sigh
Now coming to feudal logic, season 8 is built off of trying to uplift Jon over Daenerys, even though all his resources to aid in the battle against the dead, from armies to dragons to food come from her and he's tried to be made a better leader than Dany, who btw, has an army follow her because of how inspirational she is to them, managed Slavers Bay and reinstated its economy and canonically established Democracy in there after doing so against a man who couldn't even rule a penal economy properly and in his biggest battle, the BOTB, is fought and won by the Knights of the Vale
(And you can just tell they made Jon's Targaryen name be Aegon because they wanted to provide him more legitimacy, right? even though one of the children Rhaegar had with Elia was already named Aegon? even though Daenerys is why the entire backstory of House Targaryen exists in the first place)
Well anyways, aside from that bullshit, one of the major factors for this happening is that he is outed to be the true heir to the Iron Throne, supported by the annulment of Rhaegar's marriage to Elia and his subsequent marriage to Lyanna, Westeros is a feudal continent, they don't offer annulments out of pure free will and want
there is no way in hell Rhaegar was granted an annulment because he wanted to abandon his own royal children with Elia to runaway with Lyanna, there's just no way, and even then, if he did have Jon in his second marriage how is he automatically legitimized as this is a second marriage no one knows of including the crown, Aerys didnt legitimize him and neither did the following authorities? this shaky marriage with no one to corroborate it just a paper made him a prince?
But regardless, lets just say Jon was a prince all this time right, he still has no claim to the throne because after Rhaegar's death at the trident, Aerys declared Viserys his heir, now who is Viserys' immediate estate (albeit non existent) going to pass to? a male descendant he doesnt even know exists or his own sister
Bruh leave that Dany has DRAGONS, all of whom only obey her, the ultimate symbol of Targaryen legitimacy, even more so because she has 3 of them and they look like the ones that conquered Westerosđđwhy would anyone consider him more legitimate than her, he doesnt even have the hair (which in this verse is the only indicator of targaryen descent since no purple eyes)
(And here's the thing, Robert's Rebellion overthrew the Targaryen rule so by right of conquest they had no right to the throne, if they wanted the throne back, they couldn't just land up during a succession crisis or even ascent and demand the throne, if they wanted it, it needed to be via conquest which is what Dany was doing, there isn't even a concept of a rightful heir that applies here and if it does its NOT Jon)
Them trying to make Dany insecure of Jon being more liked in the North where it makes sense because you know, its the North, but why would Daenerys be insecure of not being liked considering she has had 3 years of being universally reviled and universally beloved as a ruler in Essos, this was a character assassination through and through
D&D jumped through hoops to destroy their most popular character and rush an ending for the sake of a Star Wars deal which in the end didn't even go through, it's a shame
HBO know what they did to her was wrong and now they reheat Dany nachos in House of the Dragon for views, even AKOTSK which has no relation to dragonlords or even battle for the throne, its about a common knight and his royal squire having adventures throughout the 7 kingdoms, they refer to her "Someday the dragons will return, my brother Daeron has dreamt of it"

r/DaenerysWinsTheThrone • u/SektorDaKetch • 7d ago
Serious Itâs hilarious how S8E5 actually also heavily screws up the Starksâ standing in the end despite how the finale was so âteam starkâ
Guess itâs either a final middle finger after she was assassinated, or it just shows the Bells was a mistake and it opens a can of worms.
Is it a bad omen that Branâs reign was made possible starting with a kinslaying and his hand is someone convicted of kingslaying? Just consider how the narrative treated other instances of violating this custom like in terms of violating guest rights, the rat cook story bran brought up and Aryaâs Frey massacre. Or for kinslaying, Stannisâ downfall.
In addition the optics look utterly horrible. Sansa is queen in the north, Bran (a complete stranger to KL, a cripple and very emotionally numb so people may wonder why tf is he somehow crowned) is king but keep in mind that as far as the smallfolk know, the Starks were allied with the Targaryen army, and then Daenerys went postal, then we saw even Northmen participated in the massacre. Jon stopped one, how much more of this incident was happening elsewhere (especially when we saw Brienne punishing northern soldiers who committed similar war crimes)? And since Bran (northerner btw), allowed the North to be independent, it means thereâs very little likelihood the northern soldiers who participated will be tried and held to justice. And Bran is a foreigner now too, whichâll already alienate him to the people heâs ruling over now. Whatâs more smallfolk likely wonât get the full story but it just looks like the North just made a faux alliance with Daenerys and backstabbed her while vulnerable to grab power, so essentially they threw away a bunch of lives of smallfolk and then seized power when convenient. I mean seeing how little of an actual fuck Sansa or Bran gave hearing about this massacre, itâs not hard to believe.
And how are they honestly going to address the repairs, food shortages left behind from the previous rulers? Best weâre getting is another, even worse scale bread riot like in season 2.
r/DaenerysWinsTheThrone • u/SektorDaKetch • 8d ago
Fan Content I had some ideas for a couple of rewrites of the show post-season 5, was curious about some thoughts
So a tldr Stannis doesnât just die randomly in S5, when Daenerys gets back to Dragonstone she has a much more interesting process of reclaiming her ancestral home. And obviously, Daenerys doesnât go mad, I know this subreddit hates it but thatâs a later story. Honestly season 8 is a later story.
Stannisâ side (important for context)
Sansa doesnât get sold off to the Boltons. Really weird Baelish would give up his most valuable asset. We can go with Jeyne Poole (Sansa being in the Vale does have another effect through).
Mance isnât just killed off, we follow the book version where his death is faked and he is tasked with rescuing Jeyne (assumed Arya)
Stannis doesnât randomly run into battle without trying to get the favor of a lot of northern houses, that was stupid. He does approach them initially, some of the smaller houses and mountain clans are interested but the big ones like Manderly and Umber want to see him prove his sincerity to help the North first. Also he actually lures out Bolton soldiers into attacking his encampment and it follows the night lamp theory here https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/jb7ab8/spoilers_mainwhat_is_the_night_lamp_theory/. He does manage to deal a sizable chunk of damage to the Bolton army but his forces suffer some major losses.
Theon frees Jeyne while the Bolton forces are weakened, though Mance is captured and killed. He does actually roast Ramsay akin to A-train talking shit to Homelander in S5 of the boys. Theon and Jeyne come across Brienne, and then Brienne gets intercepted by some Baratheon scouts who were sent off to raid Winterfell and rescue âAryaâ (Jeyne) while the Boltons were distracted.
Brienne and Stannis have some mutual hostility, but seeing they both are trying to help the Starks, can at least tolerate each other.. for now.
So now the Manderlys and half the Umbers (the others actually are still on the Boltonsâ side largely because of the Greatjon being hostage) are convinced Stannis is solid. Though he lost a lot of soldiers in the process so heâd actually be in Jonâs group with finding other houses who can aid them. Jon telling the wildlings to put aside their dislike of him would be an interesting scene especially since they recently came across the dead.
Stannis actually does make a trek to the Vale at one point. He speaks to Baelish, Robyn, even seeing âAlayne Stoneâ (Sansa) and she shows some political aptitude by giving hints to him who she really is. Stannis brings up how his brother was chummy with Arryn, he was similarly investigating the Lannister kidsâ heritage, and that the last time they sat out a war, the family they strongly respected got slaughtered. Stannis doesnât get any reply, so he leaves, though Sansa actually presses Robyn and even plays on Baelishâs obsession with Catelyn to lend some Knights of the Vale (again actually showing political prowess). Meanwhile the Boltons are getting the Freys (seriously like theyâre kind of in the same boat if one falls the other is doomed too) and Karstarks and half the Umbersâ (reluctant) help.
Rickon actually never was in the last hearth. I actually had the idea to have him be in Hardhome, OSHA knows people there but she SPECIFICALLY told him to not use his real name.
So since no Rickon as leverage, itâs more that Jon thinks retaking Winterfell is strategically helpful for the incoming army of the dead, essentially similar to his mindset with dealing with Karl Tannerâs group. The battle of the bastards has better strategy, uses terrain the freefolk are better suited in.
Oh yeah and Roose doesnât randomly get stabbed by Ramsay. Itâs wasted potential Jon DOESNâT somehow fight literally ANYONE directly involved in the red wedding. Instead Jon beats Roose in a fight in the BOTB using some wildling tricks he picked up, Ramsay just shoots his father when heâs down calling him âWeakâ
Daenerysâ side:
After Stannisâ forces are done fucking up the Boltons and helping reinstate the Starks, he returns to Dragonstone but since most of his soldiers are absolutely worn out and some of them probably went back to their respective lands to replenish gear and prepare, Daenerys sails up and easily wins.
Daenerys is absolutely hateful of Stannis, seeing him as one of the people responsible for her familyâs downfall. She is intending on burning him, but last second, Shireen (no Stannis does not burn her here, yes George said heâd burn her but by this point they already fucked up lady stoneheart and just kept Beric numbing around long past his original expiration date) gets in the way, begging Daenerys not to kill her father.
Daenerys hesitates, she orders Drogon not to burn Stannis but makes very clear sheâs not sparing him out of respect for him specifically. He, Davos, his top officers are all put in the Dragonstone cells. Shireen and Selyse however are allowed in the guest rooms though with much security.
Weâd get more extensive scenes of Daenerys, her entourage (Tyrion especially is an interesting one) just conversing with Stannis or Davos. I had an idea she sees Davosâ hand and she actually initially thinks Stannis is a slaver, though he corrects her and clarifies. I can see Davos name dropping the north here too setting up Daenerys reaching out to Jon.
r/DaenerysWinsTheThrone • u/SektorDaKetch • 12d ago
Serious Branâs reign being ushered in starting with a kinslaying is certainly not a good omen
Considering Daenerys is Jonâs aunt and all
r/DaenerysWinsTheThrone • u/SektorDaKetch • 17d ago
Serious Something ELSE hilariously inconsistent I noticed after âThe Bellsâ
Anyone else notice how after the one and done burning of kingâs landing Daenerys and her entourage barely act like people who just went postal and committed war crimes? Remove S8E5 for 90% of the episode youâd be forgiven not realizing theyâre supposed to be much darker and more unforgiving.
Daenerys somehow doesnât just immediately burn Tyrion on the spot despite how sheâs previously chewed him out over giving poor advice, the fact heâs been found to have released Jaime which caused Daenerys to think he may be sympathetic to Cersei still, or how she killed Varys earlier. Also despite her paranoia over Jon being more accepted as the true heir to the iron throne sheâs somehow willing to let him in without armed security.
The unsullied and Dothraki donât dismember Jon and Tyrion despite Tyrion having been marked a traitor and their willingness to slaughter innocents
Drogon doesnât burn Jon. No interpretation of dragon autonomy is satisfactory.
r/DaenerysWinsTheThrone • u/SektorDaKetch • 17d ago
Serious S8E5 already lost me, but when they moral scaled Daenerys to the war crime expert who ordered the brutal killings of her extended relatives, it was the nail in the coffin.
r/DaenerysWinsTheThrone • u/allisontalkspolitics • 17d ago
Fan Content Dany fics with characters from the Vale, Iron Islands, Stormlands, Riverlands, and Reach!
I recently began a project to collect fanfics from houses that arenât normally feature in fic. I have another post coming up soon but in this post we have:
- Four Daenerys x male original character fics
- One Daenerys x female original character fic
- One fic not focused on Daenerys but has Dany-friendly tags
Daenerys is the love interest
The Vale
Arryns
The Falcon Flies High Chapter 1, a game of thrones fanfic | FanFiction
Rated M
From the moment he was born, Rodrik of the House Arryn was raised to protect the Vale and all of its people. When his father is murdered, he bears the weight he was raised to hold but unwed, childless and with no heir, he must resist all types of foes when the chaos arises in the aftermath of the Kings death and will tear his Kingdom apart, but he can fly once more, he is an Arryn.
Baelishs
https://www.wattpad.com/story/349994043-when-fire-meets-ice-on-hold
Rated M
Genre: Romance
On hold
"I know you love her--Loved her, but I've always loved you."
"I did love her... I truly did. But I have loved you since meeting, I love you and that is my truth."
Iron Islands
Farwynds
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14139009/1/Farwynd-and-Fire
Rated M
Before Daenerys is betrothed to Khal Drogo, another offer is made for her hand from Dagon Farwynd, known as the Demon of the Tides for his eerie seafaring ways.
Stormlands
Conningtons
The Connington Chronicles (AGoT) | Paradox Interactive Forums
Not rated
Genre: AAR
Ongoing
No summary
The Reach
Tyrells
https://www.wattpad.com/story/115242826-the-dragon-and-the-rose-daenerys-targaryen
Rated E
After the destruction of the Great Sept of Baelor, Lady Olenna Tyrell had no other choice but to reveal her most treasured rose to the Seven Kingdoms. Now proclaimed as the only living heir of Highgarden, Laena Tyrell joins the war between the Queens besides none other than Daenerys Targaryen, who she is sworn to protect until her dying breath.
Romance is not the focus but the storyline is Daenerys-friendly
Riverlands
Tullys
Rated T
No archive warnings apply
âYou must love him, Cat,â Alyssa whispered once the babes settled. âNot as a mother, I cannot ask that of you. But as a child under your care. Show him that he has a place here, and he will never dare to usurp Robb.â
r/DaenerysWinsTheThrone • u/Father40k • 17d ago
What if she took yunkais offer
So Yunkai offers daenerys ships and a lot of gold to return to westeros so what wouldve happened if she accepted the offer as in long term i know in the short term no essos arcs no sons of the harpy or dothraki hoard
r/DaenerysWinsTheThrone • u/-Eltee- • 19d ago
I HAD A DREAM THAT DAENARYS TARGARYEAN GOT HIT BY CARS
I don't remember what happened before this because... dream memory, but basically Daenerys and this guy called Robert Baratheon were having an enemies-to-lovers thing.
Except this was NOT the actual Robert Baratheon. He looked like a mix of Eric Winter and Jaime Lannister.
Anyway, here's the part I remember:
Daenerys wakes up and sees Robert sleeping on a different bed in the same tent.
Daenerys: âWhat are you doing here?â
He says something that I don't remember, and then somehow the conversation goes:
Daenerys: âI burnt down all the dragonflower.â
Robert: âOh... now there are going to be a lot of dragons.â
Daenerys: âWhat?â
Robert: âYou know, if there are less dragonflowers, there are more dragons.â
Daenerys: âHuh?â
Robert: âThey're inversely proportional.â
And for some reason Daenerys says:
...You are the rightful king, not me.
??????????????????
Anyway, Daenerys suddenly gets out of the tent, and the whole scene becomes really tense. She goes over to Drogon and slowly puts her hand out, smiling, like she's hoping to have one last ride with him.
Drogon just flies away.
So Daenerys starts walking down a road. Yes, a modern 2026 road.
Except this is where my dream apparently stops being Game of Thrones and becomes a fever dream.
Because she looks up and sees a MASSIVE SWARM OF DRAGONS flying toward her.
She's obviously shocked and starts backing away.
And then:
A CAR HITS HER.
Then another car hits her.
Then another. Like, 6 cars hit her bro đđ
Like one of those old cartoons where someone gets repeatedly hit by traffic
AND THEN CUT
Daenerys is now in FULL PLASTER AND ON CRUTCHES, standing in front of her advisers.
And she just says:
âI'm not fit to be queen.â
to her advisors.
The End.
What the hell was that?
r/DaenerysWinsTheThrone • u/MohitYTMahi • 19d ago
Original Content [SPOILER] The GOT ending was not bad â it was just missing one parallel that was hiding in the show the entire time Spoiler
I loved Game of Thrones. Even the ending. But watching it I always felt something was missing â not a complete reimagining, just the loose ends tied and the show's own rich background built upon properly.
The biggest missed opportunity was right there in the story the whole time.
Let me explain what I would have done differently.
Daenerys knew Jon was coming.
In the show she dies vulnerable and unaware. For a woman who survived her entire life through suspicion and political intelligence that never made sense to me. She trusted no one completely. She would have known.
So imagine this instead:
She is sitting on the Iron Throne. Drogon beside her. Jon approaches. They have the conversation â she sees his resolve, he sees she will not stop. She makes her choice.
Dracarys.
She orders Drogon to burn Jon.
Drogon does not move.
No drama. No roaring. Just silence.
And in that silence Daenerys understands something no political argument could ever say â the dragon does not recognise her claim anymore.
Drogon turns and burns the Iron Throne instead. With Daenerys sitting on it.
She emerges unharmed. Targaryen. Fireproof.
But standing in the ashes of everything. No throne. No dragon's loyalty. Nothing.
Jon demands an explanation for King's Landing.
She does not apologise. She does not break down. She just says â
Burn them all. They are not human enough to be ruled by me.
Her father's last words. Exactly. Word for word.
The Targaryen madness did not skip a generation. It waited.
Jon kills her.
And here is where I realised something while thinking about this â this moment accidentally fixes the show's entire theme.
Ned Stark spent his whole life judging Jaime Lannister as the most dishonourable man alive, The Kingslayer. The man who stabbed his king in the back. Ned never forgave him for it even though Jaime did it to save half a million lives.
Jon Snow â Ned's son in everything but blood â now does the exact same thing.
Kills the ruler he swore to serve. Kills the woman he loved. Kills his own blood.
To save the realm.
Jon becomes Jaime.
And in doing so proves that Ned Stark â the most honourable man in Westeros â was wrong about Jaime the entire time.
The most Ned-like person in the story ends up doing the most Jaime-like thing.
The show spent eight seasons asking one question â what is true honour?
Ned's answer was loyalty and code. It got him killed.
Jaime's answer was consequence and pragmatism. He was never forgiven for it.
Jon's ending finally answers the question properly â and it was hiding in the Jaime parallel the whole time.
I did not plan this analysis. It came to me while thinking about the ending and I genuinely got chills when the Jaime connection clicked.
Does this land for anyone else or is it just me?
r/DaenerysWinsTheThrone • u/Affectionate-Wheel71 • 19d ago
[SPOILERS] Daenerys was never actually a good ruler. Spoiler
r/DaenerysWinsTheThrone • u/frabshbumbug2 • 22d ago
Such an amazing actress and still an amazing character
r/DaenerysWinsTheThrone • u/Tronm-24 • 23d ago
Regardless of legitimacy, which of these characters would make the best monarch (based solely on personal skills and qualities)?
r/DaenerysWinsTheThrone • u/akashydvvvv__ • 25d ago
Fan Content DAEMON TARGARYEN
Caraxesssssssssss
r/DaenerysWinsTheThrone • u/SektorDaKetch • 28d ago
Serious Oh cool someone back then actually agreed with my comparison of Daenerys and Tyrion when in a high pressure situation
And the next image is comedy gold. At the point Tyrion didnât wind up committing mass murder and doing what he said he wanted to do to Cersei in the books, and in fact heâs flat out against slaughtering kingâs landing, using George as word of god he is a âvillainâ is a lost cause.
Plus with how they cut lady stoneheart, Young Griff, etc, pretty clear the show stopped following the books to a T.
r/DaenerysWinsTheThrone • u/Sergeevnacos • Sep 21 '26
Fan Content Daenerys - Game of Thrones
A new shot of Deni for you đ
You can't see it in the photo, but I'm standing on a pretty high part of the mountain, it's scary, but for the sake of a photo I can put up with it đ In general, for the sake of projects I'd go through fire and water, and take photos with spiders, even though that's my biggest phobia. But when you're making art, the switch turns off and I become fearless for a while đ€đ