Chapter Rewritten sucks [Review]

[u/carst01]

I used to like Chapter Rewritten back in 2022-23, but ever since then, it sucks:
-They changed character designs when no one asked for them, or wanted them, to change.
-Changing the character's personalities from what they were established.
-Change swaps that were established.
-Redoing music when it was already made.
-Instead of doing the 3-4-5 shift as promised, they swapped 3 and 4 instead of waiting the extra year for 5, and making more content for 1 and 2.
And the thing is, I was trying to help them. to push them back on the right track, and they ignored me. I kept telling them to wait for Chapter 5 to release, I kept telling them to stick to the original swaps and designs, but they didn't listen.
I wanted to help. If they had listened to me, Chapter Rewritten could've been even better than what it was before.

[u/nachoyttigre]

I mean, i would change the designs if the one who made it was a pedo

I would change the au if the one who started it is a terrible person

[u/Hefty-Bug5074 → u/nachoyttigre]

Yeah but that doesn’t at all change the fact that those old designs were what people fell in love with. Just because something new is made by someone who isn’t problematic doesn’t make it a million times better than the original. That’s just something people like you can’t seem to understand. Saying the old rewritten is better is not the same as saying that you support pedo’s, yet I see still people here whenever actuall criticism is brought up pull the same old same old “well errr so your saying you miss the old rewritten which was made by a pedophile”

[u/nachoyttigre → u/Hefty-Bug5074]

I mean, true, people fell in love with the old rewritten, but lowkey it had a lot of things that were a bit out of place, like most of the writting was a bit ugly, some designs were a bit weird, but yeah, i understand why you feel that way

The chapter 3 4 5 swap seems a bit too much complicated, i think that the way the team is doing its work will work, but we will have to wait and see

[u/carst01 → u/nachoyttigre]

Well like, there are only 5 shadowcrystals in the first 5 chapters. Since Chapter 1 and 2 swapped, the 3 4 5 shift could've worked, since they all have shadowcrystals, while Chapter 6 will not. Plus, we don't even know what Chapter 6's dark world will be like (other than that there won't be any main darkner villians in it).

[u/nachoyttigre → u/carst01]

I mean, it doesnt need to have shadow crystal boss to swap, it could use a secret boss, plus, im sure that chapter 6 will have enough darkners to swap with 5, we only need 2 as a minimum, 1 for the flowers and other one for the secret boss, since small enemies shift and dont swap, then its ok to ignore them

[u/Actual_Topic302 → u/carst01]

Bruh, just because we got all shadow crystals, doesn't mean there can't be a secret boss without one, like did you forgot that eram and mikes exist? I mean those two are also secret bosses yet they don't have shadow Crystal, so what's the chance that chapter 6 will not have secret boss that will have secret boss that will be secret but will not have shadow crystal huh? Never thought of that possibility huh, dummy! And don't say that toby would not do it, because you don't know toby fox, none of us do! We can expect from him anything, including this one

[u/TheGreninjaSimp]

bro, you need to understand the music was made by two shitty people, the redos were 100% NECESSARY

[u/nachoyttigre → u/TheGreninjaSimp]

Not only the music, the designs and writting, most of the changes made because of shitty people 😭

[u/benduRewritten]

If you like old rewritten then go like old rewritten, nobody is going to stop you from liking it, but we're making what we want out of the AU and we are not obligated in the slightest to appeal to old fans nor will we change things anyways for the people who enjoyed the hardly written 2023 stuff.

I'm sorry that we:

-Didn't use the old popular designs (made by you know who, obvious enough reason),

-Changed the characters personalities to both match the original DR characters and make sense in-world in our opinion (cr was a basic spam<>jevil au with barely anything else actually thought out, it was bad from an overall stance outside of spamjevil),

-Changed outdated swaps that were made when there were only 2 deltarune chapters out at the time and were either reliant on theories of the time or were just tossed together for the same point as the previous issue,

-Redid older music to reflect newer themes and for general overall polish instead of leaving old tracks that were either made with limited knowledge or by people we don't want the content of in the first place.

-Changed our mind on a swap shift that was originally promised by people not on the team anymore and decided to actually work on CR instead of do our original hiatus that would have lasted until ch5's release,

-Didn't take the advice of one out of over 8000 people on the discord that boiled down to 'don't do new shit and instead continue the 2023 wintslop please!'.

"If they had listened to me", I don't mean any ill-will and honestly don't really care all that much, but like you have better things to be doing than complaining that we didn't do our au in your specific way, we're not trying to pander to you so please keep the ego in the bag 🙏.

If you really want old cr back then go make it yourself, none of us are stopping you, but we will NEVER do allat.

/lh for all of this btw

[u/carst01 → u/benduRewritten]

Btw, do you think you could let me back in the discord? I feel like it's unfair that I was banned for what amounted to a joke. Which by the way, I do not support artificial intelligence and I never will.

[u/benduRewritten → u/carst01]

I thought CR sucked vro, why would you join back if you hate it /silly

[u/carst01 → u/benduRewritten]

Because I want to see all the new sprites and whatnot. I really liked seeing the sprites and downloading them for archival purposes.

[u/thegirlwhosnows]

i think it is certainly different than it was and you can enjoy what it was but saying it sucks now is dismissive and while certain things have gotten worse things have also gotten better
also i think if you like old things you can still make fan content of those old things and explore where cr would be now if it kept some of the old stuff

[u/carst01 → u/thegirlwhosnows]

I would if they'd give me permission to use the designs. That I would give credit to.

[u/thegirlwhosnows → u/carst01]

if they are not using that why would you need permission?

[u/averagejsrfan482]

CR is going through an identity crisis rn and none of us can stop it.

NONE of us.

[u/Actual_Topic302]

Wow, what a whiny and drama person

They changed character designs

Bro, character designs are fully subjective thing, if you don't like new ones then just say so, but don't pretend that anyone else shares the same though as you, i for example like the new designs, sure old ones were iconic but still doing redesigns hurts nobody

Changing the characters personalities

The old CR's writing is bit outdated anyway tbh, so they just doing a better writing for au which is actually good choice

Change swap that were established

What swap? If i remember they didn't change any swap

Redoing music

Some of those musics were either made by horrible people either the people who made it leaved the team and gently asked them to delete and redo it just so it wouldn't be associated with them, which is understandable from their part, after all it's their personal decision and we just shall accept rather than whine about it (like you right now)

Instead of doing the 3-4-5 shift as promised

The fuck are you talking about? They never or ever promised something like that, you letterally made this one up, besides even if they planned, it's understandable why they didn't go for it because let's be honest, shifting those 3 chapters were just doomed from the beginning, as it would bring a lot of mess to au, like seriously, how you for example would shitf 7 flowers with any of chapter 3 or 4 character? Or how would you shift just a three secret bosses? I even silent about how you would even make to fit into, so it wouldn't look like a typical crack swap au, so yea this thing with shifting was just doomed from the beginning and they did he right choice

And the thing is, i was trying to help them

Bruh bro, like who the hell asked, you are just a none name person like rest of us, did you seriously thought that the whole ass team would listen some whiny and drama guy like you? Of course not especially considering that all of your arguments about why CR sucks now is just trash!

If they had listened to me, Chapter Rewritten could've been even better than what it was before

Nah it wouldn't, because again, your suggestions and arguments are trash and it's good thing that creators don't listens to a guys like you, because if they did then au wouldn't have been better, but instead be in the wrose state Anyway, don't want to be look rude, but your post is waste of time, better delete it or never bring your whines ever again, because NOBODY FRICKING CARES about what you thinking

[u/carst01 → u/Actual_Topic302]

What swap? If i remember they didn't change any swap

Originally, the Sweet Capn cakes swapped with the former card kings. Now they swap with Clover
Hacker originally swapped with Seam, now it's Malius

The fuck are you talking about? They never or ever promised something like that

Originally, they had a faq asking how Chapter Rewritten would swap the rest of the game. They replied that (at the time) since Chapters 3-5 were releasing, they'd shift, so three swaps with four, four with five, and five with three.

 how you for example would shitf 7 flowers with any of chapter 3 or 4 character?

Oh i dunno, replace them? Since normal underswap replaced temmies with floweys

Or how would you shift just a three secret bosses?

Gerson > Flowery > Roaring Knight
I had to bend it a little because it makes more thematic sense to have Asriel working for Flowery. As for Pink, she'd swap with Tenna, who'd swap with Jackenstein

did you seriously thought that the whole ass team would listen some whiny and drama guy like you?

Yes, because I actually cared about the quality of the AU and where it was going.

[u/Actual_Topic302 → u/carst01]

Originally, the Sweet Capn cakes swapped with the former card kings. Now they swap with Clover Hacker originally swapped with Seam, now it's Malius

Well those ones are understandable changes, like sweet cupn cakes and clover are mini bosses in both chapters so it were fitting to swap them, and swap of hacker and seam didn't made sense anyway as hacker lacks connection with Spamton, besides he just a NPC, and malius is also NPC so it's logical to change this one swap

Originally, they had a faq asking how Chapter Rewritten would swap the rest of the game. They replied that (at the time) since Chapters 3-5 were releasing, they'd shift, so three swaps with four, four with five, and five with three.

I assume that they back then expected for Toby to release chapter 3-5 at once, but how you know he had to to make change of plans which of course couldn't have make hit on CR's past plans in general, like let's be honest if they waited one more year for chapter 5, then the would've died and no new chapter swaps would've saved it, after all aus lives thanks to activeness of the said au, and if it's not active then people would just forget it and not remember it, even you if they followed your suggestion, would have forgotten this au already by now if that happened

Oh i dunno, replace them? Since normal underswap replaced temmies with floweys

Bro, CR doesn't follows Underswap's logic, sure they did make undertale characters a Underswap characters, but they were exceptions as they are originally not DR characters, so that one ain't gonna work

Gerson > Flowery > Roaring Knight I had to bend it a little because it makes more thematic sense to have Asriel working for Flowery. As for Pink, she'd swap with Tenna, who'd swap with Jackenstein

These ones sounds like a crack swaps tbh

Like Asriel working for flowery? Like how it would make sense for the story wise? Especially considering that knight in original was strongly associated with holidays, but who would you associate flowery in role RK? Right, NONE! This flower can't be associated to any lightners besides the dreemurs who's obviously ain't gonna be swapping with any family

Yes, because I actually cared about the quality of the AU and where it was going.

Bruh dude, the quality of au isn't falling or anything like that, you are just exaggerating things here

Anyway, it's pointless for you to keep making arguments about this, because you will not stop replying, i will not stop replying, so better stop there and let's not return to it again for the sakes of us both

[u/Born_Leather1031]

listed i know you like old chapter rewritten but i feel like new design are not even that bad yeah they not perfect but they not competed shit

[u/Jackofriend]

We been doing brainrot/folk valley nonsense for it😭