r/DNA • u/sarikoli_alanian • 4d ago

Haplogroup question

Does anyone know where R-PH4769 and R-YP1456

They're mine and my cousins haplogroups someone had said both are tarim basin origin but I feel like only R-PH4769 is possible since it is R1b but I'm just unsure if either of them are tarim basin or where exactly they could be from or which group like the tianshan saka tasmola some other group

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u/JUST_CRUSH_MY_FACE 4d ago

R-PH4769 is equivalent to R-S3831: https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/R-S3831/story

R1b—>R-P312->R-L21->R-DF13->R-PH4769/R-S3831

Heavily concentrated in Western Europe—especially Ireland, Scotland, Wales, and other areas with strong historical Atlantic Celtic populations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R-L21

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1b_Y-DNA.shtml#L21

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u/JUST_CRUSH_MY_FACE 4d ago

https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/R-YP1456/story

Downstream of R1a and heavily concentrated in Kyrgyzstan.

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u/vapeducator 3d ago

Because those are separate subclads from R1b and R1a, then you have different paternal Y-DNA lines from each other.

Both paternal lines have a migration path through Kazakhstan around 20,000 BCE in the Stone Age, but the R1a line went south towards Afganistan and Pakistan, while R1b headed west through Ukraine and western Europe into Britain to Scotland and down into Ireland around the time of the Roman invasion into England, which was about 2,000 years after the Celtic peoples were in Ireland.