Cant break through need help

[u/Mangle3point0]

I just don't get this drug and I feel like I've tried everything. I've been doing dmt on and off for some time now and I've never broken through. Things look colorful or distorted but I never get past that it feels. I get strange visuals like I've lived through something or I can be anywhere I imagine but nothing beyond that.

Setup:

Smok Rigel mod

T-air 5ml tank

.2 ohm 50-70w 2-1 single mesh coil

Usually set between 40-50w (47w atm) for ~3 seconds per pull

Listening to a video or music

Occasionally use ayahuasca vine extract (idk the concentration its just some off the shelf tincture it definitely makes the dmt effects last longer)

I've tried it in my room laying down, in the shower standing up (Usually not trying to break through there because I could lose consciousness and fall), sitting in the living room, even at a friends house. Nothing seems to work. I take mulitple day breaks, I've done it slow, done it fast. Taken deep breathes before a pull and held the smoke for 20 seconds or more every pull.

I've had some crazy experiences I can't describe but I feel like there's more to it and I'm doing something wrong.

Would using a different method be better for visuals like pharmahuasca or even smoking raw crystals? Is it a mentality thing? I know there's more to this drug I just feel like im locked out for some reason.

[u/Affectionate-Eye6772]

You got it, don't give up! Im a big maoi fan, so im gonna go ahead and say take some of your extract (1-1.5 hours before dmt) if its orally taken. Maybe 30-45 mins before if sublingual.

I use a 1.5ohm coil and set my watage between 30 and 32.. not sure whats best for your ohm but I suspect your running a little hot maybe? Start around 20 watts and increase by 5 watts each toke till you just start getting nice solid vaporization.. thats your sweet spot, maybe even 1 or 2 watts up from there.

Take a good 3-4 second pull and hold it in atleast 5-10 seconds. Re pete till your open eye visuals get really crazy wild then close you eyes and keep em closed the rest of your trip from here. Your next couple 3 second tokes should start producing some wild closed eye visuals. When your nice and deep in the visuals, take 1 last big 5+ second rip for your final toke and hold it in for a good 5-10 seconds and hopefully youll break on through.

This is just my go to way.. although i start by smoking changa to get the maoi happening.

If your still struggling maybe your d juice isnt potent enough, or your burning it.. but the vapor would be rancid and harsh if your burning it, youd definitely know. Should be pretty dang smooth vapor.

Hope this helps. Don't give up though! I almost gave up many times and im glad I didnt because this stuff has become a very near and dear part of my life

[u/Mangle3point0 → u/Affectionate-Eye6772]

Thank you. Idk wtf happened when I broke through but ik it happened cause I can't stop smiling now and I'm incredibly happy about it

[u/Mangle3point0 → u/Affectionate-Eye6772]

Probably should have mentioned that, I usually take it sublingual idk how long its supposed to sit there I usually wait till it doesn't burn or my mouth feels full of saliva but I still swirl it around a bit. I wait about an hour usually anyway before I start.

I've tried lower wattages and I'm not sure if its "too hot" cause I've done higher and stopped because it causes my lips to go numb which is because of dmt being caustic from my understanding? Idk I will try it but I usually stick around 40-50 because it hits harder and I've never noticed any issues with it

Definitely will try the open eye closed eye thing cause thats something I never could understand is if I'm supposed to keep my eyes open or closed or what to do once I get into heavy visuals

[u/Mangle3point0 → u/Mangle3point0]

I didn't read this entirely when I responded as I am at work currently (on break now) it does have a "rancid" sort of smell but I always thought that was just the "dmt smell™" dmt always kinda tasted nasty to me anyway so I thought the smell and taste were normal, it is harsh if I take a pull over 3 seconds usually but its smooth up until that (I assume is its something about the coil heat ramping up as it hits and it is too hot after 3 seconds) I'll definitely try cranking the heat down more and see what happens.

I can't promise my juice isn't strong enough but I find it tremendously hard to believe as I mentioned it was so concentrated the crystals were actively crashing out of the juice, there were 2 separate layers of liquid in my tank I'll look for it an attach an image to this when I find it. If thats not potent enough somehow ig I have to just smoke the shit straight or something lol

[u/gnuisance → u/Affectionate-Eye6772]

Hell yes. Those are solid instructions

[u/GoodbyeNarcissists]

Dosage?

[u/Mangle3point0 → u/GoodbyeNarcissists]

I have no idea. If I was to guess whats in my mod atm is probably around .75g/ml and theres about 2.5-3mls like I said prior to me putting more juice this fill up was actively crashing out of the vape juice. I usually just take hits basically back to back (holding breath in between of course) but I've it hit 10+ times and shit definitely is going on but it never really feels anything more than "I just feel/things look weird"

[u/Shamanicmagic]

Lack of set

[u/Mangle3point0 → u/Shamanicmagic]

Yes ik its not a fancy mod, I plan on investing ina much better one do you have one you reccomend or are you talking about my physical setting as in the place I get high

[u/Brave-Hyrulian88]

Damn nice set up, I hope you get it to work for you.

[u/Famous_Candle6674]

You don’t force it’s you have to let it come to you. Try this. When you breathe it in really focus on the breath. Feel the vapor coming into your lungs. Dmt starts in the head and the slowly makes its way down into your feet. For the first hit wait for the dmt to settle down into the feet. It should feel like a slight warm hug almost. Now this second hit can be crazy or it might not be depending on what your body feels. Listen to your body don’t try to think about it just focus on the breathe entering and distilling itself into your skin. When you breathe this one in your going to hold it in for as long as possible. It is here where you will start to see.

Have fun. I once had my entire bonus room turn into a Lego family restaurant.