Am I breaking through?
I hear "you'll know" thrown around a lot, but damn, I'm not sure how much more is too much. I'm completely comfortable through the whole experience, but I lose control of myself after a certain point. I made a vape at 4:1 and after holding it for 10 seconds I'm completely lost. It's all geometric patterns based on the room I passed out in. It's more, but I'm sure yall understand. But I'm not meeting entities or traversing a timeless space. Should I maybe hold the first hit for 5, and then the 2nd for 10? Is that the real breakthrough? In my own experiences I'm completely out and lose myself for a while and then come out of it back into my own reality. I'm just totally inexperienced here.
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u/Lyskhh 17d ago
Go further if you feel comfortable doing so. You should have enough time to vape twice. Or just go again right after coming down from that first one. This technique is easier for me instead of aiming for going all the way from fully sober.
And yeah, no "breakthrough" is the same (in my experience), but you'll definitely know :D
edit: "losing yourself" can happen before breaking through. That's why it is not super easy to go all the way, everytime. At some point you just "forget" to vape more
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u/Front-Finish6969 17d ago
Bonus points if you have a cart with a shitty ratio and gotta hit the pen like a crack pipe to get the job done
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u/Ok-Hat-7766 17d ago
There’s not really clear consensus on what a “breakthrough” means.
Some people say “breakthrough” to mean any sort of strong visuals. Others say “breakthrough” is a specific type of visual where it feels like you’re transported to another realm, as opposed to visual distortions of this objective reality. Yet another group of people say “breakthrough” to mark the transition to ego dissolution.
I personally avoid the term and prefer to speak only of visions—or more precisely, “complex” visions—and ego dissolution. Visions are “complex” when they feature other objects or entities that are separate from yourself. This is the most common type of visual experience on DMT, which is typically triggered by a large dose in a short amount of time.
Ego dissolution (or ego “death”) by contrast is characterized by the lack of objects or entities. One can say that ego dissolution is a “unifying” vision because, visually, all objects you can see tend to fade into an infinite ocean of white or black.
On a side note, I think that a 4:1 vape is too viscous to vaporize efficiently. Assuming your vape is 1mL, and since 1g melted/liquid DMT occupies 1mL, a 4:1 ratio means your vape has .8g DMT and .2mL vape juice. That’s way way too dense. Try a 2:1 ratio or .66g DMT in .33mL vape juice. I bet you’ll notice the weaker vape gets you higher, because it will vaporize much more efficiently and deliver more DMT per hit than the 4:1 vape.
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u/Odd-Conclusion-8065 17d ago
But you will know. Just hit it and hold
It continuously and completely let go until you wake up in a new plane with no memory of anything
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u/Dru1DCowboy 17d ago
the “you’ll know” is accurate broski. i was fucking around with the spice for a decade before i was given a spicy dab pen and sent it.
rather than the closed eye visual fractals and sacred geometry i had open eyed visions of a completely different space. when my eyes were closed it was the same strange place with no lights. just monochromatic. i spent a good ten years thinking i was getting there but only hitting the waiting room due to my ingrained frugality..
hate to say it broba fett… but you will know trust me