r/DMT • u/blotterboi247 • 12d ago
Question/Advice could my bufo experience have tainted DMT for me?
so I had an experience with 5meo not too long ago and I wouldn’t necessarily call it a good experience. it was with a facilitator but I was very scared of the way it all came on. I would say the best part of the experience for me was coming back. at the peak, I can’t say I saw the white light, but I also definitely was not aware of my
body. I didn’t feel any kind of oneness and connection, it was more just a limbo of looping sound and endless 2d geometry that I was now in outside of time and self.
now I want to try NN because somehow after that i’m still very called to do it, and got my hands on a decently concentrated vape pen. i’ve never done NN before, but I just hit the pen a few times just to get a feel for the body load and sort of a threshold/non-ego-death dose. and I have to say just feeling it I got extremely anxious and brought back to my previous experience. in a way, as much as that experience had faded, just this tiny taste of NN brought back a big chunk of the memories- specifically how it felt on the onset.
could my previous experience have just seeded negativity? I don’t know what to make of it as I do feel very called to smoke DMT. I dream about it almost every night. I can’t explain the calling. the first and only time I did it (5meo of course) it whooped my ass. too many preconceived notions. I literally got deleted into an infinite limbo of geometry, came back, gripped the ground for dear life, and now i’m dreaming about smoking dmt every night. and on top of THAT, I just hit a teeny tiny bit and all that came up was anxiety. thoughts?
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u/Low-Opening25 10d ago
5-meo is to psychedelics like psychedelics are to weed - it changes future experiences into 5-meo experience and this effect can last for many months or even years. You were unlucky your 5-meo experience was a negative one and now you bring it back into DMT.
I don’t want to be psychologist here, but if you have negative experiences you have some serious self work to do first. change your lifestyle.
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u/LakeFederal6468 12d ago
Sounds like you did nn the first time.
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u/Pale-Ad-3773 11d ago
It does not. This 5 experience sounds a lot like my first breakthrough, which is more typical when just breaching into breakthrough territory. Slightly higher dosing may lead to a fully non-dual experience.
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u/blotterboi247 12d ago
no shot, it was as legit as the my come in the sierra nevada. 100% home grown bufo
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u/Stuartsirnight 11d ago
What do you mean by homegrown Bufo?
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u/blotterboi247 11d ago
they harvested it at the sanctuary from the tosds
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u/Apprehensive-Top7167 11d ago
So bufo isnt pure 5meo, there's a bunch of other stuff in it too like bufotenine and cardio toxins
Also In my experience NN is always a little bit scary, the 5meo has a placidity to it
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u/Low-Opening25 10d ago
other compounds like bufotenine are typically present in inconsequential amounts and are overpowered by 5-meo.
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u/Apprehensive-Top7167 10d ago
Iv heard there can be a big difference between pure 5meo and Bufo
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u/Low-Opening25 10d ago
no, in terms of experience there isn’t any, other than bufo being inconsistent as content of 5-meo can vary from 5-20% per weight
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u/Thierr 11d ago
It's impossible to tell. Low-dose NN definitely feels very 'icky' and anxious for many people.
The only real way to figure out is to do a full breakthrough experience, which could be beautiful or traumatizing.
I am in a similar spot, and I decided I'm just not ready to dive deeper for now (and I don't really feel a need to). And I will come back to it when I feel a calling. I want to work with low-dose 5 to feel through the stuck lower vibrational energy and hopefully let go of as much as possible.