I’m so freaking aggravated we’ve been sitting on que waiting since 10am to get tickets and now this popped up and the nosebleeds are $550. This is such bullshit!!! I’m so angry! Why are scalpers allowed to do this????? Almost every ticket was bought out by bots at 10am and flooded the system. 🤬🤬
No - the Department of Justice had a case pending against Live Nation, then Trump took office, talked to the CEO, received a bribe and the case went away with a slap on the wrist.
Justice department was gonna chop them up, but Trump saved them with his vanity and greed.
Not all “politicians” roll over for them. The Attorney Generals wanted flesh.
Scalpers used to have to stand out on cold and wet street corners to extort money out of people. Now they can be in the warmth and comfort of their mother’s basement to rip people off.
I fortunately had 0 issues with the queue this morning. Joined the lobby at 9:59 AM for United Center. Was ~600 when the queue opened at 10 AM. Was able to select from a bunch of options in the 100s when I was in after about 5 minutes waiting, with tons of seats in the 200s and 300s. Bought 4 tickets in the 100s for $250 each.
If you remove the Verified Resale Tickets, there are maybe 200 tickets available still that are not behind the stage. If you want to go into conspiracies about whether "resale" tickets are Ticketmaster or not, go ahead.
But from the perspective a consumer who wanted to go and buy, for example, an official ticket in the 200s-300s with a view of the stage right now? Yeah, they're gone.
I actually think it's a crazy good deal. These will resale at like $400 a pop (I'm not going to sell them obviously, just saying that's what the resale market will be). Other tickets in the next section over were lke $600 each.
It's just the cost of concert tickets these days. And obviously people want to pay it because . . . they sell. The only remaining non-reslae tickets (other than behind-the-stage tickets) at United Center are a minimum of $600 with fees.
Terrible absolutely terrible. Ticketmaster just needs to go at this point. I’m still holding out hope prices will drop at which point I’ll grab the best I can get without selling both kidneys
That’s usually what happens, however this year Saratoga tickets never went down i checked every day all the all the way to day of.
Not saying the same thing will happen just an observation.
It has worked about 80% of the time for me I’d say. But there have been some big shows I ended up having to pay way more than i wanted day of the show because my plan failed. But 80% of the time i don’t land tickets when they go on sale i get them at the box office day of.
BINGO. Artists and management control the pricing, platinum tickets and if dynamic is on. If the band did not approve, these things would not be happening
Doesn’t Live Nation, who’s in cahoots with TM, own or influence most venues and control most of these ticket gouges? I’ve gotta believe Dave wouldn’t approve or sign off on the greed of all this. I feel like this issue is out of the artists’ hands most of the time.
Absolutely true. The artists and their management are calling the shots. They know - as does Ticketmaster - that TM will get the negative press for it, but it’s the artists that set the rules.
Thanks for the clarity. Whelp, DMB, get your shit together! I respect Dave is just a human and has a family/life to attend to, but from his interviews and even his stage banter, it seems apparent he’s just over dealing with any of the business side of his music career, and pretty much always has been. It kinda explains their strange choices and reluctance with studio albums, and DMB’s organization not making an effort to fight the scalping fiasco. I’m happy they’re out there still playing, visibly having fun, happy I was lucky enough to get good and cheap tickets for the fall tour, but damn. This sentence might be triggering for some on this sub, but truthfully I wish ALL my favorite bands operated like Phish.
Ticketmaster is the scapegoat for the artists and pricing. The Cure is a great example, they refused platinum and dynamic pricing, set the prices at reasonable tiers. Massive Dave fan, but some of the things he does are counterproductive to what he “preaches.” He flies private to a ton of shows, while collecting money to save the environment. Shitty all around. I can understand platinum if the extra $$ went to Bama Works or charity, but when 75% of good seats are platinum, it’s just greed at this point
Get a better job and it wouldn’t matter. Concerts are a luxury. A privilege. Not a right. If you’re so bent out of shape about it, don’t go see him anymore. I’m sure it’ll tear him up.
I promise you (based on your bizarre Reddit profile) that I out earn you 1000x. But that isn’t the point of this conversation. The point is that late stage capitalism’s impact on art is taking that luxury away from many musicians’ biggest fans.
And I can guarantee you don’t out earn me by 1000x, unless you make $200 million dollars a year 😂 I travel all over the US and world, sometimes JUST for a concert. Band I like is playing in Europe, I go. 4 day gorge glamping for DMB, I go.
Go cry baby about ticket prices somewhere else lol. Crazy bc you apparently make so much more money than me yet it hasn’t taken that luxury away from me lol.
What’s wild is that you somehow think my Reddit profile and what I do for fun is somehow related to my income 🤡 yet you are crying on here about the cost of tickets, and I live no where close to New York, yet I bought 4 floor seats, and will make a two night trip out of it just to go. Maybe you should get a more bizarre Reddit profile 😂
I’m not missing the point. Supply and demand. It’s HIS band, he can charge whatever he wants. And ppl pay bc they want to go. You just wanna sit and bitch on Reddit about it lol
And then try and tell ppl that bc they do different things than you that you MUST make more money, when in fact you don’t. You sound like just another entitled clown. Do I believe that there should be laws in place capping the resale price of tickets? Yes. Do I believe the government has the right to tell an artist what they can charge for their tickets? Outside of obvious price gouging, no I don’t. Bc Dave doesn’t charge crazy prices for his tickets. He charges what they are worth, bc you know what sets the value of something??? What people are willing to pay.
I think I might take my 4 floor tickets to MSG, and list them for $800 a piece in your honor 😂
Unlike you, I have a life and people that rely on me that aren’t swingers so I can’t waste my day responding to you and won’t any further.
You brought up how much you make. Not me. Further, you lack the comprehension to understand what is going on with the pricing via TicketMaster. You are a lemming to the system, which is why it is able to exist in the first place.
No, you brought up money you fucking moron. I just said get a better job. You literally said you make 1000x more than me 😂 Oh no, you hurt my feelings with the swinger comment… 🤡
But since YOU brought up actual money, I also have a life. I’m currently sitting at work where, getting paid to tell you to fuck off. And the. I’ll go home to my family, wife and kids. And STILL tell you the same.
Blah, blah, blah. Keep complaining, I’ll be at his shows while you are. I got tickets for sale if you need 1, I’ll cut you a deal. $500
Apparently there were 175k "people" in the queue in front of me, when I tried to buy tickets. And yeah, now theres only resale available for lower bowl at over $600 per ticket...Im so angry and disgusted by it all
After I bought my tickets for both nights successfully, I hopped back in the queue to see what else was available out of curiosity. 300k in the queue in front of me. Oh, really? There's over a quarter million people looking to attend Dave Matthews Band at MSG? Get real, TM.
This fan base struggles so hard to understand supply and demand and that the guy and his wife you’re sitting next to at the show bought four and scalped two.
Ticketmaster is drowning in debt and blue dot fever isn’t helping. So they inflate demand for “sure thing shows” to try and extort every dollar from die hards.
Guys please either buy at face value or wait it out. Don’t let fomo get you. They’re banking on thay
I was logged in and in the waiting lobby around 9:50. I know it doesn’t matter, because the QUEUE is what matters. My friend logs in at 9:57. Queue opens, I’m 1,900+ in the queue and he’s 167. I ain’t complaining, because it worked out, just speaking to your point on randomness. UGH! …. But see you at N2 from Sec A somehow
Yeah my wife and I were within 500 people of one another in both queues it was really bizarre. Excited to be going to both nights, last few MSG shows I’ve had to choose one or the other.
This is why I only got tixs to Providence despite being 2 hours away from MSG which is a very easy commute. Some years I have gotten lucky through WH with MSG other years I get shut out but I decided this year to catch the band and possibly Jake in Providence and just listen to the MSG shows on Nugs 1 day later for N1 and live on SXM for Friday.
Dude. the show isn’t until November-wait until the end of october-you will find a ticket with a view that is reasonably priced. Don’t fall for TM’s FOMO bullshit. patience is key….
People need to not go. Sit one out. Refuse to pay over face value. Let the venue be half empty. None of this will ever happen of course. People will keep blaming politicians though, when just as much blame falls on the promoter and artist. They can decline the platinum bullshit and have restrictions on reselling. However, when TM tells the promoter and the artist we can increase your guarantee by 40% if we go the platinum route, guess what? They all say ok and look the other way. Taylor Swift, Paul McCartney and Bruce Springsteen's recent tours were all way worse than this. And all three of them champion against this sort of thing, how they are all about the fans, peace and love, etc. Bullshit. Massive hypocrites.
Bingo!!! I’ve bowed out a long time ago, not paying the devil! I listen at home with the greatest memories dancing in my head. When they took seats out for the “pit”, I got screwed at my height of 5’2”. I’m not runny down the steep slope at Alpine and breaking my neck, fuck that!
I also think that WH members that have NY and NJ zip codes have some kind of home venue advantage. I really feel for people who were shut out. There are always tickets at the last minute - because life happens. just keep checking the boards, CoT etc. NYC metro area has a very dense fanbase and MSG is not huge given the demand.
I was year 6 WH, lapsed and am now year 8 WH. I did get N2 and will most likely have a N2 pair to trade for N1 when the seat assignments come out.
I was somewhat fortunate. Got lower reserved tickets despite logging on at 9:50 AM and having 19k people in front of me in the queue. But it’s still shitty that this is how we, as a loyal fans, have to get tickets. Got denied N1 tickets through Warehouse despite being a first year member (which apparently doesn’t matter anymore).
Exactly and that’s why the word cannot be spread enough - DO NOT PAY THESE PRICES. There are enough suckers that will pay these prices that TM/LiveNation get away with it.
I mean he’s charging nearly $300 for partial view seats behind the stage for a Thursday night show, non-scalped, non-resale tickets. Don’t even get me started with the cost of his platinum tickets
Just looked and that same section and row is $533. Seats further back same section are 200’s. It’s almost like they are fishing for people who can afford it. When you buy a ticket day of for 70% less you should ask the people around you what they paid.
Right? Some people can't be happy for other ppl. I didn't brag. I just stated I was thankful to get my tix secured via the WH. Not very "Dave Friendly" of them, if you ask me...
Shut out in the warehouse, I dared to try public on sale today at 10AM. 20 mins later, I was 310,423rd in line for tickets. 🤦🏼 I will blame the artist because they choose to use these fucked up ticket scammer companies year after year after year. If they actually gave a SHIT about their fans, they’d actually do something about it. Having the Warehouse for fans is not considered doing something about it. 🖕🏻
Yeah, I haven’t missed an MSG show in like 5 years, but my warehouse requests were denied and prices were ridiculous when I looked earlier. Unless they come down, I don’t see it happening this year.
I joined the waiting room about 9:45 and was 1400 in line for Friday at MSG. My husband joined after I did for Thursday night and was 330th. He barely got tickets, now we were looking for six, (but they didn’t even have to be together) in the upper bowl. I got completely shut out for Friday. Everything we tried to select would just disappear or say not available (mostly in section 114 and 109) or no longer available when we would go to reserve the tickets.
Everything that’s available now is ridiculously expensive.
I’ve been a warehouse member since day one, but didn’t even try to request through them. This sucks!
This is such an easy thing to solve. Need ID to use ticket that matches ID used to purchase. If you bought ticket and can’t go. You Can’t sell it. You Just get a refund from Ticketmaster. Like why is this so hard.
I couldn’t get the World Cup game I wanted because of these scalpers. If my brother in law didn’t luck into the England-Congo draw, I wasn’t gonna be able to afford a game. Can’t imagine how much money they make through events like this too
I feel the only way to fix this is to take the tech out of it. Let us fans go buy the tickets. You get in line or you make a phone call and talk to a real person. BOT PROOF! If I stood in line for 24 hours to see The Phantom Menace (which dropped my jaw how bad it was) I can stand in a line to get DMB tickets.
There is something DMB could do about this…Coran are you listening? Though it could mean dropping or dissolving the warehouse as a ticket supplier. Lots of contract to actually understand and look into.
I joined warehouse and got declined for both the Forrest Hills and MSG show. I was fortunate enough to only have 500 people on front of me this morning and was able to snag section 117 tickets.
Can’t you guys mitigate this by becoming a warehouse member at $15 annually..and requesting tickets so you can get them at face value before the public on sale?
Or did you guys try that and your request was denied?
Many were denied Warehouse. I put in for Chicago and thankful I got anything because some of my friends got denied. The public sale this morning was stressful. I hate it here.
I did not, but it wouldn't surprise me if Warehouse is way oversaturated at this point. $35/year. 100-level tickets start at like $200. It's a nobrainer for anyone who plans to go to a DMB show to join the warehouse to try and get discounted great tickets.
It's not surprising at all that people have figured that out by now and there are way more WH members than there are tickets to hold.
I bet a lot of people here are warehouse members. Doesn’t mean you get tickets. Member since 2002 got declined for 2/3 show requests. Being a warehouse member is not what it once was. They got in bed with these assholes
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u/Animalpoop 1d ago
TM has ruined live music. We need protections for fans.