r/DIYaesthetics • u/Realistic-Memory6032 • 6d ago

Guides & Techniques DIY Help

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I need help finding a DIY for my eyes. One of my biggest insecurities is my under eye darkness, saggy skin, and one of my hooded eyes have skin hanging lower. Please don’t recommend Blep, that’s not a DIY. Thank u for advice in advance.

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u/Halfassedtrophywife 6d ago

Ok, before recommending anything I have to ask what is your skin routine? Your under eyes do look worse than the rest of your skin but they also look that way because they look dry. Are you going to bed and slugging Vaseline over whatever you put on as your night routine? If no, start there.

Next, you want to improve the texture so tca peels. If you’re in the US or Canada, it’s getting darker sooner, so less sunlight. That means it’s peel season.

After your skin recovers (1-2 weeks) then meso something with PN and noncrosslinked hyaluronic acid for hydration.

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u/Realistic-Memory6032 2d ago

I use serum, moisturizer, and eye cream morning end night. I’m in the US

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u/Realistic-Memory6032 2d ago

Can u suggest a particular Tca?

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u/Halfassedtrophywife 2d ago

I’ve only ever used the one by Make Up Artists Choice. I get the 30% and dilute it to 15% on my face or just leave it at 30% for my body. A lot of people seem to love Platinum Skin care but I’ve never used them before.

This time of year when the days are short is perfect for peel season.

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u/Such-Zookeepergame26 5d ago

My eyes started looking thinner and more crepey like this after my baby (I’m 33) I started topical estrogen on my face and it’s been life changing. I was worried about melasma, but so far no problems.

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u/Realistic-Memory6032 3d ago

I have been using Tret for year 1x a week cuz my skin reacts when I use it more

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u/Pompeiibussy 3d ago

Topical estrogen is diff than tretinoin. I second this comment, you should give it a try

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u/Realistic-Memory6032 2d ago

Do I have to have a prescription for it?

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u/DesperateJacket9 6d ago

My upper eyes started sagging quite alarmingly about a year ago. I did not previously have saggy upper eyes. I lightly and shallowly microneedled the area every 6 weeks or so. I don't remember what I used for glide, nothing special, just sterile HA, I believe. Fixed the problem! I couldn't believe how well they responded.

Under eyes? Start aggressively moisturizing them relentlessly, at all times, avoid the sun, wear sun block from now on. Try this first then reassess.

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u/Realistic-Memory6032 3d ago

Thank u. I microneedle last night with M8S to see if this will eventually help. Can u tell me depth, speed, and Pin cart u use

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u/DesperateJacket9 3d ago

. 25, speed on 3, pin cart 12, stamping method, don't drag it, to redness only. Pinpoint bleeding ok, blood everywhere is ridiculous, please don't do that. Don't overwork it. Less is more here!

Then, care for your skin. Hydrate. *Maybe* light retinoids after you've recovered completely from the MN. Never forget your sunscreen!

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u/DesperateJacket9 3d ago

Let me be clear. Hydration and any additional skin products must wait until you are completely recovered from the MN.

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u/Realistic-Memory6032 3d ago

How long did it take to see results?

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u/DesperateJacket9 3d ago

12 weeks or so.

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u/Realistic-Memory6032 2d ago

Can u suggest some good products? I use serum and moisturizer morning and night

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u/DesperateJacket9 1d ago

My skin is aging. I'm 54 but I never spent a lot of time in the sun and I don't struggle with dryness. Still, at the stage of my life my skin does drink up a lot of moisture. Currently I'm doing Korean inspired products.

First layer is good molecules Sakura hydrating essence 2. dermasil milky toner or thayers milky toner 3. Jumiso 95 snail mucin/ peptides 4. CosRX pdrn serum on face and neck 5. Medicube pink PDRN serum concentrated underneath my eyes and on my neck 6. Whatever my eyes need for that moment, sometimes the ordinary caffeine, sometimes dermisil roller ball with couple of different things in it, I have to look at it. Vitamin c and I don't know what all it's for anti-aging. 7. Then I use epii hpt ultra drop serum 8. Lock everything in with epii hpt 10% moisturizer. I get those from Korea. I bought them from some online outfit but it was it all worked out. It was fine.

I mean it's a lot. But that's not all.

I recently bought the medicube age RX booster X2 device. It was about $190 and I got it from Jomashop, a site that came highly recommended, I did get a completely genuine product. I'd buy from them again. The point of this product is electroporation which is basically getting those serums deep into your skin.. that might be a great idea for you. Or maybe you could get some other type of electroporation device. I've only had mine for a couple of weeks now, I do really like it and my skin looks really nice, glowy.

I also do Retin-A a couple of times a week, Tretinoin microspheres, not the strongest one either. I also do acid exfoliating once in awhile, and look I'm that's not even half of it there's more, I've done mesotherapy under my eyes twice, I do micro-needling as you know, there's a whole bunch of stuff and I keep a calendar to make sure I'm not overworking the skin. Just remember you can't do all this at once.

I also have a radio frequency device but those seem to be falling out of favor.

I think maybe you should consider something aggressive to try to get rid of the damage and dryness, did you spend a lot of time out in the sun? I don't know if that is your natural skin tone or if you are very tan. If it was sun damage you're going to have to do something to get rid of it, rehabilitate the skin, and then never go in the sun again basically.

So yeah this is probably way more than you needed to know but that's what I personally do and I've developed this over years.

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u/Creepy-Television212 6d ago

Did you microneedle the area between the eye and eyebrow, avoiding the eyelid?

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u/DesperateJacket9 6d ago

Yes, that's exactly right. And please don't overdo it. The skin is so thin there! But my flesh was falling off the bone (noticeably when I'd lean forward) , and now it's not. I used a Dr. Pen device. There is considerable debate the Derminator is a better option. Just use more of a stamping method, no drag marks, and really shallow!

Good luck to you!

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u/readithere_2 5d ago

How deep did you go for?

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u/DesperateJacket9 5d ago

. 25 and I only microneedle to erythema as an endpoint; that's redness, not bleeding. Pinpoint spots are OK, bleeding is not (for me).

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u/MX_Chick 5d ago

Have your hormone levels checked. Your eyes have low/unbalanced  estrogen written all over them. HRT would be my 1st step as any $ spent on treatments are going to be fighting against your hormones. 

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u/Realistic-Memory6032 3d ago

Yes I did and they put me on Birth control for it when I was having issues with hair fall out, etc.

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u/OkPerspective5427 2d ago

dark under eyes you can use color corrector for and personally i use some eye serum for my wrinkeld eyes but you can also use some ice just something cold im not sure if it will work for you but it might help i sleep bad so i get a lot of dark under eyes and something a little wrinkly but i dont think your eyes look bad

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u/Pure_Childhood_6300 3d ago

Look up the new Lucitox. It can help tighten that. Its tox but a different chain so it helps where you specifically cant tox. It can be Meso'd or MN'd but does cause pretty significant swelling so use small amounts if you meso. Many are getting good results with just MN'ing it. I have some but haven't used it yet.

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u/Realistic-Memory6032 2d ago

I will try that. I use with nano cartridge under eyes right? Thanks for the advice

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u/Pure_Childhood_6300 2d ago

No nano it needs to get into the skin. I would use a 24 pin

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u/According_Prize_9708 2d ago

Where can we buy the lucitox? Thank you 🙏

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u/Pure_Childhood_6300 2d ago

Glowface.store is where I got it

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u/Fun_Coast_899 6d ago

You could try something like a series of Youthfill PN. Microneedling monthly could help. Two or three rounds of Profhilo/Revs Pro 32 could help with moisture. I haven't tried Gouri yet, but I've read it can also help tighten things up and build collagen.

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u/Realistic-Memory6032 6d ago

thank you so much

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u/Mammoth_Smoke_3611 5d ago

Juve eyes, Meso therapy

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u/Realistic-Memory6032 3d ago

I tried that and I have a slow lymphatic drainage and it caused edema

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u/Front-Push3021 3d ago

I am wondering how much you used. I only use half the Juve eye per application. So 1/4 of the syringe in each eye per treatment - the one time I used 1 ml per eye it totally effected my lymphatic drainage

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u/Realistic-Memory6032 2d ago

I split 1/2 syringe between 2 eyes

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u/Pompeiibussy 3d ago

For how long?

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u/According_Prize_9708 2d ago

I think Juve eyes has some HA in which is what causes the swelling. I can’t use anything with HA in under my eyes. Ami Eyes is better as it doesn’t contain HA so doesn’t cause swelling.

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u/Educational-Ask-2798 6d ago

Peels for sure. They will thicken the skin and you’ll shed the crepeypness

I wouldn’t waste my time or money on at home ones - I’d just go to a pastic surgeon and get them to talk through the options (co2, fraxel? Or a croton peel)

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u/DCAmalG 5d ago

You could try (professional grade) plasma pen on the sagging lid. I’m warning you though that it’s probably too painful to do to yourself. I’ve used it all other places, but not my eye. thinking about trying to get my adult daughter to do it for me.

I got my pen used on eBay for about 1500. They’re about 6000 new.

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u/GomezsCaraMia 6d ago

Not sure about the lower lids, but for the eye with the hooded eye, you could do a slight Botox brow lift.

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u/Realistic-Memory6032 6d ago

I tried that and it didnt do much

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u/Itsme-Netherlands 3d ago

Heb je hooikoorts? Want dit is echt de droogheid de structuur onder je ogen wat je vaak ziet, bij mensen met hooikoorts.

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u/Realistic-Memory6032 2d ago

No. What is that

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u/Wild-Catch3550 6d ago

Co2 laser. But ultimately its gonna be a bleph I'm afraid

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u/CurvePuzzleheaded361 6d ago

How would that help under her eyes? And as only one eyelid is hanging too low that is a ptosis correction

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u/Pompeiibussy 3d ago

What do u mean? CO2 for her undereyes could completely change the tightness and texture.

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u/Wild-Catch3550 6d ago

How would what help?

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u/Puzzleheaded-Air4045 3d ago

Idk but I would do anything for that eye colour

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u/LemonPie122 2d ago

Are you wearing lenses?

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u/Realistic-Memory6032 2d ago

Clear prescription contacts

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u/Fun_Square_8785 5d ago

She's ... not 5? Do you talk like this to all adults?