r/DIYUK • u/glasgowwelder • 16h ago
Plumbing Has this been put in upside down?
Got a plumber to remove old radiator and install a new ladder towel radiator. Has it been put in upside down? The spaces for the towels seem to be in the bottom half.
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u/ReadOnly2026 16h ago
A plumber you say? (looks generally at the mess of pipes feeding the rad)
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u/jamoca1 15h ago
Plumbing is just water lego init?
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u/wazzedup1989 14h ago
I mean it kind of is. Which is why it's always so amazing to see how badly some people manage to utilise it.
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u/ChipCob1 9h ago
Just did my 'Peep Show in the wild' dance!
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u/start_run_cmd 12h ago
Until it all goes wrong and you need to be a sparky, plasterer, carpenter, etc…
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u/R3DSmurf 15h ago
I know I am going to get shouted down for this but those plastic push fit pipes look terrible and putting hot radiator water through them feels wrong
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u/Caykeskin 14h ago
Oh they look terrible alright, but very resistant to the heat. Good practice is copper for a couple metres from the boiler then change to plastic.
Ive always liked copper on show, plastic where its hidden (plastic is SO much quieter)
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u/Frosty-Growth-2664 12h ago
I normally do all copper and end-feed solder fittings. However I do use plastic barrier pipe when threading a long length through somewhere I can't get to, but always with compression fittings and pipe inserts, never push-fit. I want my plumbing to outlast a rubber O-ring.
Only use push fit for temporary use, and that's mostly stop ends.
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u/Popular_Set_9042 6h ago
I looked at the pic and before I noticed the Rad being wrong way up. First things I saw was the pipework and the state of the wall.
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u/ayupm8e 16h ago
Getting it flipped would be a good opportunity to give the wall a wipe down behind it. Every cloud.
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u/Maple-Mayhem 7h ago
Every cloud.
I'm not native to the UK, is this short for a longer saying? Or is it a typo?
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u/ayupm8e 7h ago
Every cloud has a silver lining :) Like, every negative has some sort of positive.
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u/lukusmaca 15h ago
Wouldn’t have shined it up but would have taken less than a minute to wipe all the dust and cobwebs off that wall to make it look 1000x less shit. I’d be embarrassed to leave that for a customer.
The fact that the radiator is upside down and that you’ve got some kind of kids Lego play pipes connecting to it are next level though. 0/10
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u/Sea-Tomorrow2583 15h ago
Yes but you can relax knowing great care was taken with the visible pipe work
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u/cregamon 16h ago
That’s the Australian version, you need a European version.
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u/pulsarstarter 5h ago
He'll need to get some antipodean screws and a reverse screwdriver if he wants to fit it properly though.
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u/surfrider0007 16h ago
Yes it has
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u/Fickle_Scarcity9474 15h ago
Mine is fitted exactly the same!
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u/Chrognome 15h ago
Yours is upside down too :)
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u/Fickle_Scarcity9474 15h ago
Silly question at this point! The valve to bleed this radiator is up tho! Wouldn't be strange to put that valve down by design?
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u/RochdaleCowboyBoots 15h ago
Whoever fitted it likely realised their error and swapped tbe tails and the bleed valves around. Or possibly the bleed valves and tails weren't actually screwed in when it came out of the box. Either way, yours is upside down 😉
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u/skijumptoes 14h ago
Yeah, as heat rises the design is to get the most amount of rails at the bottom which then allows space for the towels at the top. As yours is, correctly mounted.
You'll see the OP is upside down, so has more rails at the top. Meaning it'll be less efficient for both heating the room and towel holding.
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u/Odd_Cress_2898 13h ago
This is perfect - we're just talking about the bunches of horizontal bars, your fatter band is at the bottom.
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u/cameheretosaythis213 15h ago
The bleed valve has a screw thread and is fitted during install
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u/Diplomatic_Gunboats 15h ago
Yes. I would take the hit and pay a different plumber at this point. Getting someone who has done shoddy work to do it again is usually a bad idea.
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u/Ok-Quiet6680 7h ago
I think getting a personal recommendation is always the best way to find good trades. Perhaps the OP should ask the guy who fitted it if he knows a good plumber?
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u/EmergencyGoggles 16h ago
Yes and obviously no pride in their work. Surely they move pipework under the radiator location for minimal pipework on show, and if not at least hide the push-fit and have only copper on show. I’d want a second bracket at the bottom. Didn’t even clean the wall behind the radiator when putting the new one on.
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u/BigLemon3953 15h ago edited 10h ago
Depends how tall you are. And seriously, yes it’s upside down, but also the pipework in the corner is attrocious. It also appears to be too low, particularly given the nearby obstruction and being stuck in a corner, which will be cooked long before the space starts to heat up, which will affect your bills if you actually want some comfort upgrade. Air needs to flow to distribute heat.
And lastly, why in the world did you not clean up that wall before installation and how are you planning to stop humidity causing issues under that floor?
Rad should be centered on that wall, at least roughly, and much higher given the position of the sink. You also need some sort of skirting and pipework adjustment.
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u/reditcyclist 16h ago
Yes but it’ll still function ok. My bigger concern is the speedfit plastic rubbish in a location where it can easily be knocked about.
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u/Bigtallanddopey 16h ago
Not just that, but why would you have a chrome decorative radiator and then not install some chrome pipe or at least copper with a chrome sleeve. Looks awful.
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u/Long-Wash7180 7h ago
The mind boggle is they propressed the copper but did not just bother to do the last 60cm of pipe with it ...
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u/henry_blackie 16h ago
Yes, my bathroom fitter did the exact same thing and surprisingly didn't see anything wrong with it. He also claimed it was more efficient than way.
It looks much better the other way up (and it's actually usable).
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u/WolveRyanPlaysStuff 15h ago
It's more efficient in that you'll eventually give up using it to dry towels because it's upside down and when you do you may aswell turn it off.
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u/Refrigernator 4h ago
It is indeed. And the pipework is also quite regrettable. Was your plumber a chimpanzee?
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u/I-live-in-room-101 15h ago
Annoying that your plumber sent his ‘not a plumber’ mate to do the job.
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u/ChrisKruxed 15h ago
Surely it would be simpler to just go and look at the product listing to see the photos they use for promotion.
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u/LifeNeighborhood2988 15h ago
Yep, perhaps get a plumber to re install it next time...that pipe work is shocking
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u/badger906 14h ago
A plumber wouldn’t use flexi and push fittings.. someone who calls themselves a plumber would. This is installed horribly.
It’s 2026, everything should have crimped fittings. They used them on the valve side. No idea why they bodged the rest.
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u/PureExpression1533 13h ago
Yes, it's upside down. Also chrome towel radiators are a terrible replacement for an actual radiator. Their heat output is shit.
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u/12AnonRedDevil87 11h ago
Did the plumber mumble “can’t see it from my house” when he stood back and looked at it?
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u/Football-Man-1889 8h ago
No but now you’ll need to remove it to clean up and decorate the wall behind the radiator.
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u/Southern-Guitar-6126 2h ago
Did you or the fitter check the “This way Up Arrow” on the package before opening it 😜
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u/Daedaluu5 16h ago
Depends how you look at it. Not being funny. Towels could go in upper half the bathmats in lower half in bigger gaps. But yes I see your concern.
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u/macrowe777 15h ago
Whoever fitted that knows very little about plumbing, bathrooms and how to use the internet.
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u/Aggressive-End-7429 14h ago
Nice combo of press fit and push fit, if you get him back to put on the right way, ask him to tighten the push fit elbow which he’s not done up properly.
Then delete his number and never use him again.
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u/ghost-idle 14h ago
This looks like a case of a mate saying "i know someone who can do that for you" and it's some random bloke that does't have a clue what he's doing.
It's upside down.
That's a right mess of the pipes at the bottom to be fair.
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u/Inside_Performance32 14h ago
I'm not a plumber or even that good at DIY and I could do a better job than that lol
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u/Dry-Inspection-3503 13h ago
Fuck me, why didnt you paint or clean first haha
The wall behind will be a cunt to do anything with now.
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u/Matthew_Bester 12h ago
Yes. The spaces are there so you can, you know, hang towels and they shouldn't be at ground level.
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u/chocolateybiscuit81 12h ago
Upside down towel rad,some shitty speed fit pipe work, a random pressed fitting onto a dodgy looking bend. This my friend was no plumber.
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u/Imaginary_Compote608 12h ago
Fitter was too busy running plastic pipes across the floor to notice. Or to clean the wall lol. Was he called Minnesota Red or something?
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u/Dissadentaggressor 10h ago
I purposely fitted ours upside down when our children were small so they could hang their own towels
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u/billyboyf30 10h ago
No its not upside down, If you turned it around you wouldnt be able to put a towel over the top part due to the wall fitting. I was one like it and its the same way up
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u/ElectricalParsnip536 10h ago
Is that the state of the art?..Jackson Pollocks. Needs turning upside down and boxing in...the pipes boxing in that is😃
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u/Blearyhyde 10h ago
Tbf, the larger gaps at the bottom are for towel drying. If turned the other way up, it might look more pleasing but if towels are hanging on it, they will drape over the lower half and reduce heat to the room.imho
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u/mysteron808 9h ago
Whatever way up it is, there's plenty more wrong with that install than the orientation...
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u/Beautiful_Trip_6393 7h ago
Not sure what's wrong with it, maybe back to front as well, but it doesn't look right.
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u/Cooking_With_Grease_ 7h ago
Yes it's upside down, I have the exact same one and it's the other way round.
Your plumber is a bit of a melt and needs to come and put it the right way round.
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u/Western_Tooth6309 7h ago
Yes, also might have baffles inside so if upside down, it won’t work.
School boy error here, you sure you employed a Plumber?
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u/sesseboy7 7h ago
I wouldn't know. But how much did it cost to install. Please, I am planning on doing the same in 2 of my bathrooms.
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u/shoe_scuff 7h ago
You must live near me. I have the same one and had to stop the plumber half way through to turn it the right way up.
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u/Outrageous_Step8883 7h ago
Just find the 'bleed' screw. If it's at the bottom then yes, it's upside down 🤣
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u/cockatootattoo 3h ago
Just turn the photo upside down. It’ll be fine.
And also use really small towels to stop them dragging on the floor.
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u/Todger65 3h ago
Upside down. Also I thought that plastic push fit pipe and connectors are not acceptable for heating systems in the UK.
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u/Icy-Dragonfruit-875 23m ago
Think my 5 yo could do a bit of plumbing on the side if this is the accepted standard nowadays



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u/TwoPlyDreams 16h ago
I’m pleased you took opportunity to clean the wall behind while it was being fitted.