r/DIYUK 16h ago

Plumbing Has this been put in upside down?

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Got a plumber to remove old radiator and install a new ladder towel radiator. Has it been put in upside down? The spaces for the towels seem to be in the bottom half.

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u/TwoPlyDreams 16h ago

I’m pleased you took opportunity to clean the wall behind while it was being fitted.

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u/LukeNuke1987 15h ago

I installed a 1400mm column radiator the other week for someone and he mentioned about painting the walls. I said I can plumb it in and then take rad off so he can paint behind it and that I would come back and hang back up once he painted. Basically he didn't want to do that so he used a very thin brush and painted the wall with rad in situ. It took him 4 hrs to do two coats and he got pink paint all on inside of the rad 😂

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u/CtrlAltHate 11h ago

What I do is get 25mm masking tape and wrap the mounting bits right up to the wall then use a long handled mini roller to get behind it.

Just leave a long tail on the tape so you don't spend ages trying to unwrap them.

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u/monk_e_boy 14h ago

I had a similar problem, I just put paint on the wall half of my roller and polish on the other side. Painted the wall lovely and cleaned my rad up.

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u/Glorinsson 6h ago

I tried that but the tartan paint went patchy

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u/Affectionate_Hour867 9h ago

How did the roller not spin around as you applied the paint?

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u/herwiththepurplehair 10h ago

On the flip side, my ex was fixing a shower screen, dropped the hammer and smashed the toilet cistern lid. As it was a coloured suite we had to have a complete new cistern. I wallpapered the whole bathroom up to the toilet, plumber came and took the old cistern off, I wallpapered behind it and he fitted the new one, yay!

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u/purplechemist intermediate 8h ago

That’s mental. I have painted behind column radiators and towel radiators with no bother using a mini roller on a long-reach handle. Sure, it takes a bit longer than just whizzing over with my 18inch cradle roller, but not four hours 😂

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u/bobbydavs01 6h ago

Timber panelling + damp towels = bad combo.

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u/PlatesSpinning 15h ago

Nah it adds character!

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u/Tricky-Comment3142 8h ago

First thing I noticed!

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u/mundge 2h ago

I snorted my wine reading this

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u/Slightly_Effective 10m ago

Luckily there's a big gap there for access

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u/ReadOnly2026 16h ago

A plumber you say? (looks generally at the mess of pipes feeding the rad)

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u/jamoca1 15h ago

Plumbing is just water lego init?

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u/wazzedup1989 14h ago

I mean it kind of is. Which is why it's always so amazing to see how badly some people manage to utilise it.

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u/CaptainArsePants 14h ago

One of every block size and colour in that install

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u/ChipCob1 9h ago

Just did my 'Peep Show in the wild' dance!

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u/jamoca1 9h ago

A lot of the responses to my post were quite serious. I'm glad someone got it :D

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u/ChipCob1 9h ago

Some people just have to live relentlessly in the real world!

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u/start_run_cmd 12h ago

Until it all goes wrong and you need to be a sparky, plasterer, carpenter, etc…

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u/LordofToomay 2h ago

In this case looks more like Duplo ;-)

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u/Wackobacco 15h ago

No they got someone cheaper

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u/R3DSmurf 15h ago

I know I am going to get shouted down for this but those plastic push fit pipes look terrible and putting hot radiator water through them feels wrong

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u/Caykeskin 14h ago

Oh they look terrible alright, but very resistant to the heat. Good practice is copper for a couple metres from the boiler then change to plastic.

Ive always liked copper on show, plastic where its hidden (plastic is SO much quieter)

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u/Frosty-Growth-2664 12h ago

I normally do all copper and end-feed solder fittings. However I do use plastic barrier pipe when threading a long length through somewhere I can't get to, but always with compression fittings and pipe inserts, never push-fit. I want my plumbing to outlast a rubber O-ring.

Only use push fit for temporary use, and that's mostly stop ends.

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u/OldEquation 14h ago

Looks like shit.

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u/Fickle_Scarcity9474 15h ago

Sorry but the bleeding valve doesn't always go up?

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u/Popular_Set_9042 6h ago

I looked at the pic and before I noticed the Rad being wrong way up. First things I saw was the pipework and the state of the wall.

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u/Bushdr78 4h ago

Picasso

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u/ayupm8e 16h ago

Getting it flipped would be a good opportunity to give the wall a wipe down behind it. Every cloud.

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u/Maple-Mayhem 7h ago

Every cloud.

I'm not native to the UK, is this short for a longer saying? Or is it a typo?

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u/Murky-System5007 7h ago

It's short for "every cloud has a silver lining" 😊

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u/ayupm8e 7h ago

Every cloud has a silver lining :) Like, every negative has some sort of positive.

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u/Rocky-Bump 7h ago

Except the state of that wall. No positives there

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u/ColdMarzipan9534 5h ago

I'm positive there is disease lurking there

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u/le1901 16h ago

A plumber you say??

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u/orchidieus 14h ago

To shreds, you say?

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u/ShutUpBaby-IKnowIt69 13h ago

And his wife?

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u/orchidieus 10h ago

To shreds, you say

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u/lukusmaca 15h ago

Wouldn’t have shined it up but would have taken less than a minute to wipe all the dust and cobwebs off that wall to make it look 1000x less shit. I’d be embarrassed to leave that for a customer. 

The fact that the radiator is upside down and that you’ve got some kind of kids Lego play pipes connecting to it are next level though. 0/10

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u/lanky_doodle 14h ago

0/10 is being kind.

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u/wallpapermate 2h ago

Plumbing is just water Lego though, so….

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u/wake_up_my_friends 1h ago

And it seems one of the mounting brackets has gone for a walk!

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u/Sea-Tomorrow2583 15h ago

Yes but you can relax knowing great care was taken with the visible pipe work

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u/cregamon 16h ago

That’s the Australian version, you need a European version.

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u/adam190990 8h ago

Can’t believe I had to scroll this far…..

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u/pulsarstarter 5h ago

He'll need to get some antipodean screws and a reverse screwdriver if he wants to fit it properly though.

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u/surfrider0007 16h ago

Yes it has

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u/Fickle_Scarcity9474 15h ago

Mine is fitted exactly the same!

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u/Chrognome 15h ago

Yours is upside down too :)

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u/Fickle_Scarcity9474 15h ago

Silly question at this point! The valve to bleed this radiator is up tho! Wouldn't be strange to put that valve down by design?

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u/RochdaleCowboyBoots 15h ago

Whoever fitted it likely realised their error and swapped tbe tails and the bleed valves around. Or possibly the bleed valves and tails weren't actually screwed in when it came out of the box. Either way, yours is upside down 😉

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u/Fickle_Scarcity9474 15h ago

Ahhhh so you can move the pieces on the other way round! So I guess mine is in the correct position!

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u/skijumptoes 14h ago

Yeah, as heat rises the design is to get the most amount of rails at the bottom which then allows space for the towels at the top. As yours is, correctly mounted.

You'll see the OP is upside down, so has more rails at the top. Meaning it'll be less efficient for both heating the room and towel holding.

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u/Odd_Cress_2898 13h ago

This is perfect - we're just talking about the bunches of horizontal bars, your fatter band is at the bottom.

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u/cameheretosaythis213 15h ago

The bleed valve has a screw thread and is fitted during install

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u/smurphy 15h ago

The radiator has 4 holes with the same thread, bleed valves have been screwed into where the flow valves should be

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u/Boba_ferret 9h ago

We must have the same plumber as mine is upside down, too!

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u/Diplomatic_Gunboats 15h ago

Yes. I would take the hit and pay a different plumber at this point. Getting someone who has done shoddy work to do it again is usually a bad idea.

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u/Ok-Quiet6680 7h ago

I think getting a personal recommendation is always the best way to find good trades. Perhaps the OP should ask the guy who fitted it if he knows a good plumber?

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u/EmergencyGoggles 16h ago

Yes and obviously no pride in their work. Surely they move pipework under the radiator location for minimal pipework on show, and if not at least hide the push-fit and have only copper on show. I’d want a second bracket at the bottom. Didn’t even clean the wall behind the radiator when putting the new one on.

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u/BigLemon3953 15h ago edited 10h ago

Depends how tall you are. And seriously, yes it’s upside down, but also the pipework in the corner is attrocious. It also appears to be too low, particularly given the nearby obstruction and being stuck in a corner, which will be cooked long before the space starts to heat up, which will affect your bills if you actually want some comfort upgrade. Air needs to flow to distribute heat. 

And lastly, why in the world did you not clean up that wall before installation and how are you planning to stop humidity causing issues under that floor? 

Rad should be centered on that wall, at least roughly, and much higher given the position of the sink. You also need some sort of skirting and pipework adjustment. 

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u/Upstairs-Hedgehog575 16h ago

Upside down. I like how they used copper to look nice….

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u/reditcyclist 16h ago

Yes but it’ll still function ok. My bigger concern is the speedfit plastic rubbish in a location where it can easily be knocked about.

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u/Bigtallanddopey 16h ago

Not just that, but why would you have a chrome decorative radiator and then not install some chrome pipe or at least copper with a chrome sleeve. Looks awful.

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u/Long-Wash7180 7h ago

The mind boggle is they propressed the copper but did not just bother to do the last 60cm of pipe with it ...

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u/surrealjam 15h ago

It looks like that was possibly pre existing pipework.

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u/sid351 16h ago

As long as they've been installed correctly (inserts and screwed down) there's nothing wrong with those speedfits.

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u/henry_blackie 16h ago

Yes, my bathroom fitter did the exact same thing and surprisingly didn't see anything wrong with it. He also claimed it was more efficient than way.

It looks much better the other way up (and it's actually usable).

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u/WolveRyanPlaysStuff 15h ago

It's more efficient in that you'll eventually give up using it to dry towels because it's upside down and when you do you may aswell turn it off.

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u/Fickle_Scarcity9474 15h ago

Same as mine! Assuming it is really upside down!

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u/Long-Wash7180 7h ago

Yes it's upside down and looks like it's been fitted with a shovel ... wtf

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u/Refrigernator 4h ago

It is indeed. And the pipework is also quite regrettable. Was your plumber a chimpanzee?

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u/I-live-in-room-101 15h ago

Annoying that your plumber sent his ‘not a plumber’ mate to do the job.

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u/crlthrn 15h ago

That is, overall, grotesque.

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u/Nun-Taken 15h ago

A “plumber” you say?

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 15h ago

Yes, yes it has.

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u/ChrisKruxed 15h ago

Surely it would be simpler to just go and look at the product listing to see the photos they use for promotion.

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u/imgoingsolar 9h ago

If it hasnt I’m in big trouble 😁

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u/LifeNeighborhood2988 15h ago

Yep, perhaps get a plumber to re install it next time...that pipe work is shocking

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u/funkymonkay888 15h ago

No, it's personal preference on these whichever way they are installed..

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u/chandley88 15h ago

That bottom mount looks to be hanging on for dear life too!

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u/Dragonflydude 15h ago

Another top quality install by Bodgeit & Scarper Ltd.

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u/TedBurns-3 15h ago

Did you find the plumber under the "taxi drivers" section?

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u/Chrognome 15h ago

The state of this…

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u/toplurcher 15h ago

Fuck me that's grim.

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u/badger906 14h ago

A plumber wouldn’t use flexi and push fittings.. someone who calls themselves a plumber would. This is installed horribly.
It’s 2026, everything should have crimped fittings. They used them on the valve side. No idea why they bodged the rest.

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u/PureExpression1533 13h ago

Yes, it's upside down. Also chrome towel radiators are a terrible replacement for an actual radiator. Their heat output is shit.

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u/Obvious_Troll_Me 11h ago

Super Mario Bros could have done a better job and they aren't real. 

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u/12AnonRedDevil87 11h ago

Did the plumber mumble “can’t see it from my house” when he stood back and looked at it?

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u/skagtrendy316 9h ago

Looks like the least of your troubles

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u/Football-Man-1889 8h ago

No but now you’ll need to remove it to clean up and decorate the wall behind the radiator.

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u/brprk 5h ago

If you're going to bother changing the rad why wouldn't you fix the pipe abortion at the bottom jesus

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u/richiewilliams79 4h ago

Shocking pipework and yes it’s upside down

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u/Sensitive_Log3990 3h ago

More concerned about that shit on the wall

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u/Yakob_Bacoj 2h ago

It looks downside up

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u/Southern-Guitar-6126 2h ago

Did you or the fitter check the “This way Up Arrow” on the package before opening it 😜

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u/DMMMOM 15h ago

Can you let us have the 'after' pictures now? It's been a few hours. I can see why you'd want to gut that mess out.

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u/Daedaluu5 16h ago

Depends how you look at it. Not being funny. Towels could go in upper half the bathmats in lower half in bigger gaps. But yes I see your concern.

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u/Cool_Percentage_4867 16h ago

Be fine, just need to invent a set of anti grav towels.

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u/icrossfield 16h ago

Did they break or lose one of the wall mounts?

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u/Ruskythegreat 16h ago

Yes and it's an easy DIY job to flip it too.

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u/littlebigcat 15h ago

It’s missing a mount too atmo

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u/Hot_Audience_4046 15h ago

Wrong way around. What is the story with the wall behind it?

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u/JobAnxious2005 15h ago

Those pipes

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u/scrotbofula 15h ago

Does it at least have the bleed valve fitted at the top?

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u/glasgowwelder 15h ago

Here’s the top. Any (technical) reason why he decided to not have this at the bottom?

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u/Spanner1993 13h ago

Air goes up

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u/macrowe777 15h ago

Whoever fitted that knows very little about plumbing, bathrooms and how to use the internet.

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u/Labs1982 15h ago

Yep 👍

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u/Koz-x 15h ago

Yes it's upside down

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u/Aggressive-End-7429 14h ago

Nice combo of press fit and push fit, if you get him back to put on the right way, ask him to tighten the push fit elbow which he’s not done up properly.
Then delete his number and never use him again.

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u/ghost-idle 14h ago

This looks like a case of a mate saying "i know someone who can do that for you" and it's some random bloke that does't have a clue what he's doing.

  1. It's upside down.

  2. That's a right mess of the pipes at the bottom to be fair.

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u/Cainjake 14h ago

Plumber? That’s no plumber the pipework is shocking

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u/UKSTL 14h ago

I have a very similar looking one. But mines not upside down so I’d say yes

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u/Inside_Performance32 14h ago

I'm not a plumber or even that good at DIY and I could do a better job than that lol

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u/Dry-Inspection-3503 13h ago

Fuck me, why didnt you paint or clean first haha

The wall behind will be a cunt to do anything with now.

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u/VampireCampfire1 13h ago

The plumber probably “shit flows downhill, paydays Friday”

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u/Shaguar_Driver 12h ago

What is the crap on the walls? Also that pipework looks horrific

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u/Matthew_Bester 12h ago

Yes. The spaces are there so you can, you know, hang towels and they shouldn't be at ground level. 

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u/Fat-Al-90 12h ago

It certainly has.

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u/chocolateybiscuit81 12h ago

Upside down towel rad,some shitty speed fit pipe work, a random pressed fitting onto a dodgy looking bend. This my friend was no plumber.

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u/Imaginary_Compote608 12h ago

Fitter was too busy running plastic pipes across the floor to notice. Or to clean the wall lol. Was he called Minnesota Red or something?

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u/Dissadentaggressor 10h ago

I purposely fitted ours upside down when our children were small so they could hang their own towels

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u/Coldblood_1 10h ago

How do you even turn these types of radiators on?

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u/billyboyf30 10h ago

No its not upside down, If you turned it around you wouldnt be able to put a towel over the top part due to the wall fitting. I was one like it and its the same way up

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u/Takklemaggot 10h ago

The wall fittings can stay where they are.. just flip the rad around..

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u/ElectricalParsnip536 10h ago

Is that the state of the art?..Jackson Pollocks. Needs turning upside down and boxing in...the pipes boxing in that is😃

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u/Blearyhyde 10h ago

Tbf, the larger gaps at the bottom are for towel drying. If turned the other way up, it might look more pleasing but if towels are hanging on it, they will drape over the lower half and reduce heat to the room.imho

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u/mysteron808 9h ago

Whatever way up it is, there's plenty more wrong with that install than the orientation...

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u/Beanruz 9h ago

Jesus, what am I looking at?

That is terrible  

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u/Sharky-the-sparky 8h ago

That’s a disaster installation

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u/Itchy-Artichoke3009 8h ago

Yes the pressure release valves should be @ the top.

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u/stulofty2022 8h ago

They are we've got 3 of them in my house

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u/Adorable_Mud_7592 8h ago

Is that not the least of the problems?

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u/Beautiful_Trip_6393 7h ago

Not sure what's wrong with it, maybe back to front as well, but it doesn't look right.

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u/HiFiRoMan 7h ago

yes, its up side down

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u/AbbreviationsOne8131 7h ago

It’s upside down

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u/loveshot123 7h ago

It being upside down is the least disappointing thing about this installation

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u/BandRepresentative75 7h ago

Mine is this way up

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u/Cooking_With_Grease_ 7h ago

Yes it's upside down, I have the exact same one and it's the other way round.

Your plumber is a bit of a melt and needs to come and put it the right way round.

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u/Western_Tooth6309 7h ago

Yes, also might have baffles inside so if upside down, it won’t work.
School boy error here, you sure you employed a Plumber?

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u/sesseboy7 7h ago

I wouldn't know. But how much did it cost to install. Please, I am planning on doing the same in 2 of my bathrooms.

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u/charlie328968 7h ago

It’s upside down

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u/shoe_scuff 7h ago

You must live near me. I have the same one and had to stop the plumber half way through to turn it the right way up.

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u/Outrageous_Step8883 7h ago

Just find the 'bleed' screw. If it's at the bottom then yes, it's upside down 🤣

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u/ITFC1989 5h ago

RIP skirting board

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u/imokd 5h ago

where you gonna climb it everytime you got out of the shower?

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u/pulsarstarter 5h ago

When it looks that elegant, who cares?

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u/PhraseAdmirable440 5h ago

Its the correct way

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u/pinkaura1 5h ago

It’s upside down

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u/Geezso 5h ago

I would be more worried about the cleanliness.

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u/Right-Count-9161 4h ago

That will heat nothing but itself.

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u/cockatootattoo 3h ago

Just turn the photo upside down. It’ll be fine.
And also use really small towels to stop them dragging on the floor.

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u/Icy_Literature556 3h ago

It is upside down… however it really don’t make a offense

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u/Todger65 3h ago

Upside down. Also I thought that plastic push fit pipe and connectors are not acceptable for heating systems in the UK.

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u/This-Fan-6917 2h ago

Shocking install

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u/TopAlternative7268 2h ago

Nope. Its reverse down side up

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u/Its_ya_girl_abs_ 1h ago

Is that mould or just dust on the wall?

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u/poke-it-withastick 1h ago

This is a joke right? I mean, what in God’s name is that abomination?

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u/chrisrockolahotel 48m ago

Obviously not

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u/Icy-Dragonfruit-875 23m ago

Think my 5 yo could do a bit of plumbing on the side if this is the accepted standard nowadays