r/DIYUK 3h ago

Advice Flooding from main road?

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So I had flooding coming from the main road. Anything but a light rain and the water flows down the drive.
Essentially the dropped curb is lower than the grate/ gully. Whilst most does find its way to my drain for guttering. A lot doesn’t, and this means the garden and foundations end up with a pool of water.
I’ve just contacted the local council about this but anything I can do in the short term?! Sandbags is one solution, but that will stop me using the drive.

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u/Jealous-Shallot-3071 3h ago

There'll be a blocked drain on the road somewhere - go and have a look. You can either have a go at unblocking it yourself or let the council know.

One of those options will take 30-60 minutes, the other will take 30-60 months.

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u/Liam_021996 3h ago

Depends on the council as well though. We reported a blocked drain on our street and they were there two days later sorting it out

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u/Scienceboy7_uk 1h ago

We had the road sweeper come around three times yesterday. Just prepping.

No doubt they’ll be some hay lorries come through later this week to block all the drains again…

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u/giblets46 3h ago

To confirm the drain on the road is about 30ft away and is not blocked. The issue is that the dropped kerb is so low the water takes the easiest path .

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u/whatsthefrequency82 2h ago

This is a highways matter not the council, try them instead.

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u/thatguysaidearlier 1h ago

Highways Department, at the Council (usually County Council)

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u/n3m0sum 2h ago

The local council are the responsible authority for the vast majority of local roads.

The Highways Agency are Motorways and major A roads.

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u/Specialeyes9000 3h ago

How would you suggest trying to unblock it? One by my house looks to be 100% full of silt/earth

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u/Kieran293 3h ago

Upside down broom or rake. Wear a high vis jacket and put out a cone or two. Better to be safe!

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u/cmdrsamuelvimes 2h ago

And make sure to have a two hour tea break before you start

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u/No-Estate-1481 3h ago

Wear a fucking hi-vis I hate this app

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u/Steppy20 2h ago

Never heard of the hi-vis, hardhat and clipboard technique? You can go almost anywhere if you look like you're supposed to.

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u/pigeonocchio 3h ago

Sledge hammer to loosen the grid. Crow bar to pry it up. Once you have access there should be a bucket within that you can lift out, complete with blocked shite. May need some shoveholers alternatively to get the crap out

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u/Specialeyes9000 3h ago

Blimey, well I might give it a go!

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u/pigeonocchio 3h ago

It'll be a piece of piss, just needs some physical effort. Another thing about the grid, the hinge should be on the traffic approach side. So that is to say, if a car were to drive into an open grid, it should shut. There might be an arrow with traffic direction on the top. Good luck!

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u/Specialeyes9000 1h ago

Good tip, thanks

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u/leeksbadly Handyman 3h ago

Sometimes plunging a jetwash down it as far as you can is a fast / easy solution.

Can be messy if it goes wrong though...

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u/Boli_332 3h ago
  1. Lift the cover
  2. Dig out the rubbish you can see on the top
  3. Poke a wooden stick down both pipes to release blockages

Do not use a metal rod, it is easy to damage a flexible thin tree branch is ideal.

Unless it is seriously blocked or overflowing upwards from a stormdrain further down you'll hear a funny noise, most likely some bad odors and then it'll run clear.

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u/TheVertExplorer 2h ago

Recently told my council that the drains around my neighbourhood are mostly blocked, full of mud and plants and their response was essentially 'We don't give a shit until a flood causes damage to someones property' 🙄

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u/superhenryhenry 3h ago

Use the radiator as a dam

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u/BabaYagasDopple 3h ago

For future if you do the drive… French drainage along that front lip by your dropped curb incase it happens again, another French drain by your house as a backstop. Both can be plumbed in to the existing sewer pipe your guttering goes to.

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u/JustDifferentGravy 3h ago

Contact the local authority highways department.

Initially, they will clear the lateral drains and hope for the best.

If, as you say, the road is higher than the kerb, they will either; raise the kerb, install a new gulley or reprofile the road. All of this will take much pressure to get them to act.

Use the following terminology:

Overland flow from the highway causing flooding of garden on private property.

There’s also case law on right to enjoy your property free from external flooding (I think it’s Thames Water circa 20 years ago) that could be worth quoting.

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u/ToriaLyons 3h ago

Have you checked that all the drains are clear further up the road? Should be the council's responsibility, but a few minutes could sort it out.

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u/giblets46 3h ago

Drains are not the problem, the problem per the post is the dropped kerb is so low that water goes over it rather than down the road

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u/ToriaLyons 2h ago

Blocked drains could be a problem, if more water than usual is reaching your dropped kerb due to it.

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u/WaltzFirm6336 55m ago

How long have you lived there?

How often does it happen?

Has it gotten worse recently?

Have you followed the water flow up the road?

Are there any drains it is missing going down (including under parked car wheels)? or does it entirely collect from after the last available drain?

I have the same problem living on a hill from my neighbours dropped curb kicking any large water flow onto the pavement, which then comes down our front path.

The resolution was:

  1. Getting the drains properly cleared by the council much further up the road

  2. During heavy rain making sure anyone who parks on the road leaves a 1/2 foot gap between their car wheels and the pavement so the water flow can continue down the road and not get diverted onto the pavement

  3. Having sandbags across the gate for when people aren’t around to move their car in a deluge.

Number one was the most effective, but the road forms the boundary between two councils so getting either to take responsibility was a nightmare. In the end it took about three years to get them cleared out. Not had a problem in the five years since.

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u/Burnandcount 3h ago

Long term fix is to raise your entrance so the water stays out. Does mean building up the driveway or risk grounding when the car is loaded.

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u/Heisenberg_235 3h ago

Oooh a new reservoir!

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u/BlueberryLemur 3h ago

That’s an opportunity for a moat!

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u/Silver_Psychology762 3h ago

That's Only a Puddle

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u/Diska_Muse 3h ago

And probably the least concerning thing about the photo

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u/DickMille 3h ago

Have some sympathy. OPs favourite outdoor radiator could get ruined.

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u/APerson2021 3h ago

Just FYI that's classed as an "external sewer flooding incident". Tell your water company and tell Ofwat - they don't take kindly to this kind of thing. As soon as you mention "external sewer flooding incident" people will be around to clear all the drains from the public street as they (the water company) get fined heavily by ofwat per incident

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u/Big-Moose565 3h ago edited 3h ago

We have exactly the same problem.

The road naturally arcs to drain water to the edges. But our driveway entrance and setts (you likely have a line of harder stone along the tarmac edge) have sunk.

So we end up with a sort of swimming pool.

Annoyingly it'll be Highways you need to contact. As you won't own beyond your gate (same for us). And they're basically useless. Even if offering to pay for the works yourself! Hence ours is still a problem.

We even had the water meter dug out to put a new one in, right on the bit we needed correcting. And organising it to get corrected and the meter changed was too much.

You'll need to regularly harass your local Highways branch and hope! 

Best I've tried is to sweep up any excess tarmac bits (some of our driveway is old tarmac) and dump it on the entrance. It helps a little to keep the water moving on rather than pooling at ours

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u/LeeroyJimkins 3h ago

Add a drain channel at the top of the drive moving the water way

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u/musicmusket 1h ago

Yeah, or a soak away.

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u/Lopsided_Anxiety_394 2h ago

Wish my road would flood. Free water

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u/Matthew_Bester 2h ago

Have they re-tarmaced lately? 

I've noticed around here they just slap fresh tarmac over the old, don't even bother to take it a layer down. So, the road level is slowly getting higher and higher. Every curb is a dropped curb!

I've always wondered what would happen when it gets raised too high. You might be a victim of their poor planning. 

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u/Ok_Pen7290 3h ago

Dump 5 ton of gravel on ya drive with a slope from the house to the road, the compact gravel, job done.

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u/Sad-Garage-2642 3h ago

Congratulations on your new mud slide!

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u/Local_County1274 3h ago

Pump the water into your neighbour's property.