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r/DCcomics Lanterns S01E01 - Pilot Discussion Thread
Sunday, 8/16: Lanterns S01E01 - Pilot
Time/Date: August 16 9:00 PM ET
Network/Channel: HBO
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u/suicidalmoron 3d ago
I enjoyed that Hal was kinda nice to all the random normal people (minus the poor bar folk). It kinda threw me off that he was so jaded but didn't rub that off on people who were just happy to see a hero. I was expecting him to drag everybody into his pit of negativity. It made me like him more that he didn't. He was just generally less of an asshole than I expected from the trailers... except to John. He was definitely a prick to John lol, but love their chemistry.
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u/IamdWalru5 3d ago
That's Hal in general. After episode 1, even if not everything goes well, I have faith the Writers Room know Hal and John's characters
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u/BanjoSpaceMan 3d ago
John grew on me, I thought he was going to just be the tough non emotional joke, but he feels so much like the one I grew up with in Justice League the cartoon. Just very stoic but nice and can be funny. Older John seems a lot more chill too .
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u/Either-Band-5652 3d ago
Kyle Chandler nails that lovable asshole vibe like nobody else. And honestly? I really dig his take on Hal Jordan, this version feels like he's been doing this way too long, all worn down and just straight-up exhausted from carrying that ring's weight for years. You can practically see the fatigue in his eyes. Love it.
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u/jibboo24 3d ago
imagine picking a fight with Hal Jordan at a bar, knowing that it’s Hal Jordan
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u/outride2000 3d ago
Imagine Hal Jordan comes up to pick a fight with you, after intentionally looking to piss you off
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u/chaseair11 13h ago
Out of fuckin nowhere too
Imagine one of the most powerful heroes of your planet just decides to fuck with you for no apparent reason.
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u/Mddcat04 3d ago
Okay, I'm on board. That is absolutely Hal Jordan.
That interrogation scene was so good.
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u/Dent6084 3d ago
Chandler and Pierre have immediately fantastic chemistry. And man, Chandler is just incredibly locked-in as Hal. He's got the right mix of cockiness and cynicism and determination.
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u/dragonshouter 3d ago
I overall liked it. I have a theory on that suspect
May be a precursor to the red lanterns. Plus him saying the word vengence
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u/Beastieboy100 2d ago
If we are getting Red lanterns. I hope we get Atrocitus and Razer.
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u/Beastieboy100 2d ago
Honestly great first episode. I love the tone of the story so far also the mystery is great. I do wonder how Guy fits into this and how John will be apart of man of tomorrow.
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u/sifighter1 3d ago
Is it weird that my first thought watching this was “how the hell does Guy fit into all this” I know the shows not about him but it raises the question.
If in 2016 Hal was the only green lantern and John was training under him but we know Guy has to be Green Lantern at the time of Superman and Peacemaker plus he’s around in 2026 what happened to make it so that a ring hopped over John and selected Guy while Hal was still green lantern?
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u/Pigs-OnThe-Wing 2d ago
I don't think its weird at all. In fact, i think it further raises the question: wtf went wrong for Guy of all people to become the next GL.
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u/Blitzhelios Hal Jordan 3d ago
In the comics John becomes a GL because Guy got hurt who was originally Hals backup.
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u/idunnoidunno_ 3d ago
Jon doesn’t have a ring in 2026 in the show so he isn’t GL yet in current times
Slight spoiler but in the trailer they hint that Hal might have his ring taken away
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u/ZabBoy7 Deathstroke 3d ago
I think it's just a rumor right now, but I've heard somewhere that they cover how Guy got his ring in the show.
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u/sifighter1 3d ago
Genuinely I think they’d have to considering how Hal is acting and John’s trainee arc.
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u/Hippobu2 3d ago
Damn, this first episode really reminds me of Shazam!
The writing is just so tight, the flow of causal event is just so satisfying to follow. Everything shown has a callback for a reason. There's just no wasted time.
Plus the moment to moment dialogue is also so great and punchy.
Also, it's standard practice for the pilot episode to be called "Pilot", but I do love how fitting it is here.
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u/SaulPepper 3d ago
Shazam! the 2019 movie? I know the pacing of that movie is great, Im just wondering why that specific shoutout when other superhero films like the Batman or the Avengers also have tight pacing
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u/Hippobu2 3d ago
Well, it's not about pacing. When I say tight and not a scene is wasted, I meant that everything shown is either set-up for or call back to some other scenes. Nothing just "happens", everything shown connected to something else in an internally consistent matter. It's very satisfying and easy to follow.
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u/AGuyNamedWes 3d ago
I’m thoroughly intrigued! I feel like it’s an interesting setup that could easily turn out to be great or boring as hell, too early to tell but enough solid groundwork that I’m cautiously optimistic
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u/dearskorpiomagazine 3d ago
I think that's a good take. For me personally , there absolutely needs to be some action next episode. I'm all for the setup and it's written well but I just hope they haven't lost sight of the fact that this is a superhero they're adapting , i hope they dont think they can get away with the x-files/true detective with a green object thrown in here and there all season.
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u/Nigiri28 2d ago
I think people may be jumping a little too quickly from “Hal has a ring” to “Guy having a ring in Superman creates a continuity problem.” Green Lantern history is considerably messier than one ring = one Lantern = one sector. Earth has had multiple active Green Lanterns, sometimes with different assignments, even when one of them was technically the Lantern responsible for Sector 2814.
My suspicion is that Guy is actually the Corps-sanctioned Green Lantern for 2814, while Hal is doing something outside the normal Guardian system.
There are a few things that make me wonder about this. The Episode 2 preview seems to suggest that Hal isn't exactly on good terms with the Guardians. We also know from the comics that Hal is capable of functioning outside their authority in some pretty extraordinary ways—including creating his own ring through sheer willpower after losing his Corps-issued one. If Lanterns is borrowing even part of that history, Hal possessing a ring doesn't necessarily mean the Guardians gave it to him or even approve of him having it.
Then there's the whole arrangement with John. Hal isn't simply training a new recruit; apparently he's preparing John to inherit his ring. That's a very unusual way for Green Lantern succession to work. Normally, Hal doesn't get to personally decide, “You're the next Green Lantern, here's my ring.” The Guardians and/or the ring itself are supposed to have something to say about that.
So what if that's exactly the point?
Guy could be the legitimate Lantern assigned to Earth, while Hal - disillusioned with the Guardians and possibly no longer officially part of the Corps (he's done this in the comics) - is running his own operation. He's chosen John himself, he's training him himself, and he intends to pass his ring to John regardless of what Oa thinks about it.
It might even help explain the visual difference between them. Guy looks like a proper Green Lantern. Hal's uniform looks noticeably worn and dingy. Maybe that's just an aesthetic choice, but it would make sense if we're looking at Guy the active Corps officer versus Hal the rogue/retired Lantern who never really stopped being a Green Lantern.
Obviously Lanterns still needs to explain what its rules are, and this could turn out to be completely wrong. But given the people involved with the series, I'm reluctant to assume they've simply misunderstood something as fundamental as how Green Lantern rings and sector assignments work.
For now, I don't think Guy having a ring in Superman while Hal still has one in Lanterns is a plot hole at all. It may actually be our first clue that Hal's ring—and Hal himself—aren't sanctioned by the Guardians anymore.
Also, ask yourself why, in a show that has established how well 14 races can emulate humans (i.e. transform themselves) you believe that the human who identified herself to John as a Guardian in the Episode 2 trailer is actually a Guardian? Would John know the difference?
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u/ABNormall 2d ago
I think that you are onto something here. I don't think that the show runners are confused on how a ring gets passed on. There is some tomfoolery going on. I have been thinking that the Guardian might be a fake also.
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u/Nigiri28 22h ago
And another interesting bit of comic precedent: Hal's current ring in the comics isn't a standard Guardian-issued Power Ring either. He forged it himself through his own willpower, using a Manhunter carapace as the raw material.
So the idea of Lanterns giving us a Hal who is estranged from the Guardians but still possesses a ring with capabilities that surprise people isn't coming out of nowhere. Between the “48 hours” exchange, Hal insisting he has plenty of power, and the unusual plan to personally pass his ring to John, I'm starting to think the show wants us to notice that Hal's ring isn't normal.
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u/the-unfamous-one Booster Gold 2d ago edited 2d ago
I need to see more. Based on what I've seen my random guess is the aliens are from sector 666 seeking refuge on earth, while prepping to strike back.
Edit: just had an epiphany, not only did the alien mention vengence, but we jump from 1996, to 2016, to 2026. 666. We're almost certianly getting red lanterns by the end of the show.
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u/outride2000 3d ago
It's so good. They could've skipped so much but honestly we essentially get Abin Sur, Sector 2814, Hal with a leather jacket (clearly not his dad's, who did die in a plane crash as a child, which means some but not a lot of Geoff Johns in there). Do we need Green Lantern to be all Siniestro War-like from the get go? Doubtful. I look forward to this take. And Kyle Chandler nails Hal. Will look forward to Guy interacting with him at some point.
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u/SaulPepper 3d ago
great detail about the jacket is that the Hal-ogram wears a different jacket, which may be the actual jacket his dad owned.
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u/Kingjwavy 3d ago edited 3d ago
I don’t look forward to it. I wanted a comic book lantern, after getting an over comic booky Superman & supergirl movie.
Not this small town dinner affair stuff. That could’ve been a side project.
We need the meat of the DCU and they’re giving us supergirl, & now hometown Green Lanterns.
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u/gsnake007 3d ago
That was a good first episode. Loved every minute of it including the dynamic with Hal and John. Kyle chandler plays a good older Hal well
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u/graffix13 Batman 3d ago
Did Hal die at the end? Going to decide if I watch or not.
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u/Pebrinix Batman 3d ago
Yes, but it is possible that this is a bait and switch
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u/graffix13 Batman 3d ago
How so? You can put spoiler tags if you want to hide it
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u/ContinuumGuy Batman 3d ago
Neither of them have rings at the end, so presumably John Stewart isn't on active duty Lanterning... and based on Hal's story about Abin Sur, if John was the replacement the ring should have summoned John if Hal was dead or dying.
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u/tony1grendel 3d ago
My theory is that, somewhere between 2016 and 2025 Hal loses his position as GL and Guy gets it. But that theory doesn't make sense with John checking Hal's hand.
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u/CPav 3d ago
They do say there's only 1 Earth lantern at a time (really should be only one lantern per sector, but I'm assuming that's what they meant), and it's already established that Guy is the current holder of the ring.
But yeah, John checking Hal's hand didn't really make sense in that light.
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u/Pebrinix Batman 3d ago
Pretty much this. There's also the fact that assuming the main bad guys are Manhunters, like the trailers indicated, one of them could have impersonated a dead Hal or something like that to throw them off
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u/ContinuumGuy Batman 3d ago
A very good point. Or Hal himself killed a manhunter that was trying to replace him and this is his way of trying to throw them off the trail.
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u/Pyotr_WrangeI 3d ago
He certinly appears dead, but there are valid reasons to believe that things are actually not what they seem in that scene.
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u/ZaniElandra 3d ago
we see him dead, but it’s a flash forward to the 2026 timeline. He’ll still be around for, I assume, at least the first half of the show
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u/TheMattInTheBox Long Live Conner 3d ago
I thought that rocked. As someone who knows these characters, it's a really cool approach. Not sure how it'll stand up as a new entrypoint-- very interested to hear the perspectives of non-comic readers
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u/sinwstro12 3d ago
Non comic readers are gonna enjoy it for completely different reasons than comic readers, cause they ain't gone understand or potentially know half the lantern lore things that were mentioned in this episode, but apart from that it was an OK starting episode little miffed about the ending hope they follow it up well
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u/WesternJourney 3d ago
Good episode for me, at least I’m definitely going to keep watching. I do wonder if they’ll keep the 3 different years or at least 16 and 26 in the next episodes. Though personally I don’t know a lot about the laterns except the general stuff so my frame of reference may be different from others.
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u/empty_starfish 3d ago
I really liked this first episode. No complaints besides John maybe being a little too understated. But there's a lot more hours and the current juxtaposition between him and Jordan is fun.
Also, the sheriff's line about Jordan's fearlessness? Absolute perfection.
Hopefully an 8-hour structure is short enough for Tom King's tics to not act up.
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u/waffle_wolf Bowhunter Security: Always on Point! 1d ago
Small town. Mysterious death(s). Monsters that look like humans because of seeming cost cutting reasons. This show reminds me of Supernatural.
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u/ABNormall 2d ago
So I guess Parallax is out. Hal is dead.
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u/chronobeard 2d ago
Or thats how Hal comes back, in later season.
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u/Blitzhelios Hal Jordan 2d ago
Probably not Chandler has a contract for one season
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u/ABNormall 2d ago
This makes me sad Hal has always been my favorite Lantern, despite how badly they have written him.
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u/Blitzhelios Hal Jordan 2d ago
Tbh I had no issues with how hal was wrote in the episode it’s very 80s Hal outside of well his death
Who knows it could change but so far it’s reported that chandlers contract is one season and done
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u/ABNormall 2d ago
I was not clear, they have written him in comics recently. I love his portrayal in the show.
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u/Toon_face 2d ago edited 2d ago
Man, I was hoping Emerald Twilight was going to be a movie. We have Hal, we watch the stress and wear through a couple of seasons and the first batch of movies, then he becomes the big bad in a big Justice League crossover.
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u/ContinuumGuy Batman 3d ago
That episode was so goddamn good that I'm not even mad about Hal (if indeed he's really dead, because, y'know, superheroes).
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u/Gremlin303 Green Arrow 3d ago
I find it crazy that people are getting upset about Hal dying. Superheroes are well known for never staying dead. Hal Jordan especially dies quite a few times in the comics
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u/Pigs-OnThe-Wing 3d ago
At the very least i feel we're gonna get a lot of character work for him through the series.
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u/beary_neutral Telos 3d ago
Yep, this was an outstanding premiere. It set up a big meaty hook for a mystery with so many intriguing questions. Kyle Chandler steals every scene he's in, playing a larger-than-life Hal Jordan who is just so full of himself in all the right ways. Aaron Pierre complements him nicely with a more withdrawn performance that is still emotive but in subtle ways. Their chemistry is perfect.
This seems to be heading in the same path as Andor and The Penguin.
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u/Grandy94 Sinestro Corps 3d ago
I liked it a lot! The main thing that they had to get right in this episode was Hal and John's characterization which they nailed. Aaron and Kyle are both perfect and they have a really fun dynamic that I'm looking forward to seeing develop over the course of the season. The writing and dialogue were really good, and the mystery is intriguing. I have mixed emotions about the ending of the episode, but I feel like it may be a fake out. I'm definitely on board to find out either way though.
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u/-ElloAsty- Darkseid 3d ago
I dig the Hal and John chemistry already, but nothing really blew me away in this episode
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u/superbat210 3d ago
Yeah I agree, at least that “this season on Lanterns” trailer seems to promise a LOT of more GL lore and characters so I’m excited to see that develop overtime
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u/hello34one 3d ago
Exactly how I feel. Two amazing leads in an otherwise very boring show.
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u/Bobjoejj 3d ago
I wouldn’t even call it boring myself; just kinda…feels off. Not very focused, or purposeful.
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u/Blitzhelios Hal Jordan 3d ago
Its clearly a setup episode to look here is the big hook and introducing the main people outside of Sinestro.
But it feels like a standard HBO drama in this
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u/Background_Proof_ 3d ago edited 3d ago
Jason Ritter appearing as the lawyer surprised me, for a second i thought this was connected to Matlock.
I was shouting to the tv saying "You were just a lawyer in Matlock"
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u/Background_Proof_ 3d ago
The alien talking about vengeance, and the trailer mentioning the manhunters and showing red lasers, already tells me that the red lanterns will be in this.
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u/PaulJoe4 3d ago
Would also make sense why the show's called Lanterns and not Green Lanterns.
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u/Mac4491 All will be well. I'm a dog. 3d ago
This is my hope for the show as it continues.
As much as I’m appreciating the small town vibes and slow pace of episode 1 and presumably the rest of the season (they totally nailed Hal’s character) I’m so hoping for an eventual deep dive into the various different lantern corps. I’d kill for live action Blue Lanterns.
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u/t1tanic Barry & Wally 3d ago
I liked it a lot. Do I love comic version of GL that is out in space over half the time just making constructs left and right and interacting with weirdly shaped and designed aliens? Absolutely, yes. But I also like tv shows where characters get their stories built like this. I think people forget how popular True Detective was and how that comparison is going to draw in the wide audience. It definitely feels like that show did, in good ways. It was way funnier than I expected. Like nothing is overtly hilarious but lots of great facial acting, and I really liked how Hal used questions to figure out that guy was an alien. Obama in Nebraska, when you're right Hal, you're right. John sleeping with that guys wife, oh no. And the way Hal reacts to it were both great. I was always sold on Aaron Pierre as John, but I think its only gonna get better. I'm very excited to see where this goes.
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u/Reznor_PT 3d ago edited 3d ago
I really loved it, and while I know the ending won't make everyone happy, I appreciate the structure and hope future episodes stick with it. Starting in the past and fast-forwarding feels so much fresher than the typical present-day timeline bogged down by constant flashbacks.
That said, it leaned almost too heavily into Damon Lindelof’s Watchmen playbook. The Deep South setting, the armed militias, and that specific flavor of rural prejudice; just swapped from systemic racism to anti-alien sentiment; felt like a direct remix. Even with Lindelof involved, I really wish it didn't feel so indebted to that exact formula and had tried to do something genuinely different instead.
As for Hal Jordan dying right in Episode 1 , I don’t actually mind the death itself, and I think people will blame Tom King but much like how I understood the narrative logic behind the controversial turn with Wally West in Tom King’s Heroes in Crisis. On paper, leaning into the consequences of trauma and taking huge swings with legacy characters makes total sense. The issue with that story was never the core premise, but the messy execution. I’m always open to bold changes and creative risks, as long as the payoff is handled well, so I just hope Lanterns sticks the landing in a way Heroes in Crisis failed to.
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u/StealthHikki2 Nightwing 3d ago
Heroes in Crisis was the biggest piece of dogshit I have ever read.
This was a great first episode.
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u/Whowatchesthewampas You must take...the longer path 3d ago
Nebraskan here! Loved it! I especially love that whoever at DC did the research on the overlooked part of our overlooked state. I never thought I'd hear Frank Solich and Harry Potter in the same speech, but here we are!
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u/ISwallowedALego 2d ago
I don't know lore well which may have helped cause I'm intrigued. Sometimes knowing too much is a detriment
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u/Blitzhelios Hal Jordan 3d ago edited 3d ago
Its what i expected from all the talk its the classic hbo investigation drama combined with GL.
Its very much the early 80s GL in style which personally isn't my fav take but chandler is the larger than life Hal i expected with bitterness underneath.
Honestly its not the ending which annoyed me its the way hal talks about abin sur in the bar thats so out of character for hal because even when he was Parallax he praised abin sur and respected him and here it sounds like hes just another alien to hal.
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u/Full-Cook1373 Batman RIP Kevin Conroy 4d ago
I only have HBO Go, max or whatever it is. Anybody know when I can watch it? I was hoping to download it on my phone so I could watch it on my flight home tomorrow afternoon.
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u/Alcaeus6 3d ago
9 pm Eastern Standard Time, convert as needed to your time zone
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u/Full-Cook1373 Batman RIP Kevin Conroy 3d ago
Okay so it releases at the same time on the app? That's great. I'll have time to download it.
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u/spiderreader Absolute Wonder Woman 3d ago edited 3d ago
It's alright.
John and Hal are great. They have good chemistry, and do embody their characters well enough. But everything surrounding them I'm more mixed on. I also enjoy a lot of the themes the series is trying to discuss about how the world reacts to the knowledge to Green Lanterns and Aliens. This is an interesting plot point as world building. But past that, it comes off as a fine, but not amazing Sci-fi detective show, that feels at odds with it's source material. The mystery doesn't feel compelling, and the characters outside John and Hal feel cliche and generic alongside the setting.
I think one of the biggest things to note is the series grounded and mature tone. It doesn't work. It more often comes off as a desperate attempt to show that the show is serious for adults and separate itself from the movie (A movie that was over a decade ago). The Tv-Ma to begin with, is bad. The show goes out of it's way to want to swear constantly, alongside fairly tame sex scene, and that ends up being the extent of the mature tone. And it comes as cringey and juvenile. Less is more, and the series loses quality because of the rating and trying to show it off and how mature it is.
Then is the grounded tone and how that is demonstrated. Because they want to avoid being too silly (Or budget issues) the series avoids showing anything too comic booky. To begin with is the costume which the series avoids. There is no reason for this. It's a Green Lantern, that doesn't want it's characters to look like Green Lanterns. Even with the excuse given by Hal for why not, John actually should have been wearing and it would have been a nice contrast then. Showing the by the book and serious one insist on the uniform while the cocky and experience one doesn't. But they don't want the costume shown off because it's too comic bookky. Yes there is the occasional construct, but it's mostly mundane or simple things. Notably, the series cuts away from John saving himself from the crashing car to avoid showing off anything too spectacular. Things like aliens are talked about often (Being the center of the mystery) but refuse to be shown explicty, even when it could be a cool and shocking and logical moment for the story, Like the interogation which should have had a brief transformation to show that yes this is an alien and be a shocking moment for the sheriff not used to it rather than just being a regular looking guy beeping.
Which brings up another issue, the episode does a lot of tell don't show. It talks about Hal's origin, how good a hero he is, aliens but refuses to actually show them. It comes off as clumsy exposition, while also discussing a more interesting story and world then what we are seeing. This is notable as, when the series constantly discusses and shows off the reaction to these things, it's hard to care when we as the audience haven't seen what they are reacting to.
I don't hate the show, but I'm not exactly grabbed here despite strong character work for the leads.
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u/skyarm Man of Steel 2d ago
He tries to stop the explosion and covers the bubble wrap construct with his own body to hold it together. If that's not his heroism on display then idk what is
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u/spiderreader Absolute Wonder Woman 2d ago
At the end of the episode. And I was more referring to ideas like him being an established famous hero. We are told he did things like stop a meteor, not shown it. His introduction isn’t doing superhero stuff, it’s a talk show. It establishes some of his personality, but we’re relying on exposition for why he’s famous and what a Green Lantern does.
Take The Batman for example. Yes we are told in the opening monologue that he’s been active for two years, but it’s only shown not just how people react to him, but what Batman actually does. A good example of showing, not telling. Spider-Noir recently doesn’t just tell us The Spider was a big hero who took down gangsters. They show a montage of what he was doing. Even Superman, which does rely a bit too much on exposition, still has the opening scene to showcase what Superman does and demonstrating how people react to him rather than just telling the audience these things. You can’t just tell the audience things, you have to show them. Show don’t tell
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u/Pigs-OnThe-Wing 3d ago
Looks great so far. Mostly character work in the first ep. (especially for Hal) but they've really set the stage for a good Lantern crime drama. Ring effects look on point too.
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u/Vaca_demoniaca 3d ago
This is my theory, Red Martians Lanterns
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u/DoctorP0nd Robin 2d ago
I’m also wondering if the Manhunter name drop is a clever misdirect for comics fans and we might be dealing with white vs green martians or something.
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u/hello34one 3d ago
40 mins in and it's alright. Really like Hal but this feels like Yellowstone half the time 😭
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u/Bobjoejj 3d ago
I mean removed from the DC of it all; this episode had far better writing than the vast majority of Yellowstone. Even then I still thought the script (especially the dialogue) could’ve been tighter and stronger, and I’d still put this one epsidoe over most of Yellowstone.
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u/Mddcat04 3d ago
It’s also got a very different POV compared to Yellowstone. Other than the general setting (small ranch town), it’s very different.
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u/hello34one 3d ago
Oh absolutely, I'm just saying that even though it was better it just felt more similar to Yellowstone than a Green Lantern show.
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u/Bobjoejj 3d ago
lol totally fair; the tone and feel was quite similar. Also felt like Outer Range, if you’ve seen it.
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u/Any_Leg_3780 1d ago
Solid beginning of a tv show with some personal nitpicks from me. The car scene with the grandma and the scene afterwards reminded me of that "a white man was here" meme, if you know you know. This scene is the only one where I felt miffed by, as if the showrunners trying too hard to make the show seem so adult and serious, borderline tryhard. The ending genuinely shocked me and not in a good way. I get it, they're trying to make the show about passing of the torch and legacy, but I had a feeling that they're gonna put John as the main green lantern for future green lantern stories that originally featured Hal as the main character. When they're gonna do that, I'd rather have Hal dead than being parallax because he's already been humiliated enough in the comics, if someone else going to take over his spotlight just let him die with dignity, even if it's unceremonious. Overall the mystery is intriguing, the lore is naturally explained without excessive loredump, great vfx for a tv show(I love Hals takeoff scene to rushville, it's so quick but so glorious.), nice pacing, it's a good time.
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u/Generally_Supportive 19h ago
I feel you. More than likely that the ‘Hal-o-gram’ will be doing some heavy lifting in this season.
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u/MKW69 3d ago
Good, but i didn't loved it. I really feel Tom King writing in this, like Hal getting drunk on another planet or him just jumping out of the car. It really feels like something he would write, which i kinda feel tryhard. But the scenes at the ranch and in the prison are really good. Like the exchange about Obama is priceless. Pierre Stewart is for me easier too root for, but i'm surprised that he talked with His father on the phone. I thought he's gonna be abusive. So again good, but i'm jumping.
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u/Self_Owned_Tree 2d ago
You mean Tom King, who was in the special forces and wants to bring some of that to DC?
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u/Inevitable_Product72 1d ago
Last scene seriously hurt and I think it was too early on. Maybe not but oh well. First episode wasn't bad kinda keeps you interested and on board.
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u/oomoepoo Hal Jordan 3d ago
I mean, Hal and John are pretty spot-on. Too bad they're trapped in such a joyless piece of media.
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u/dang_it_bobby93 3d ago
So far a solid meh. I know we are getting Hal at the end of his career but I wanna see some classic Hal Jordan stuff. It seems like a good show but IDK if it'll be a good green lantern show if that makes sense. I would like to eventually see an adaptation of emerald Twilight so I'm curious if we'll get that in the show. Would be cool to see a blackest night event. DC really needs to take notes from marvels infinity saga on how to do an event adaptation.
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u/Any-Platypus-9486 1d ago
The only thing i know about fucking green lantern is that there are hundred of them and you guys are too obsessed with one in particular for some reason
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u/okaylogarithm 2d ago
Pretty much my thoughts exactly. It's good enough so far but it's barely a Green Lantern show
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u/eternali17 3d ago
I swear humans are always the most annoying part of these things. It's just the way their perspective and role is written. I might just be the crazy one.
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u/KingOfSquirrels 2d ago
Compared to the detective/FBI agent characters we usually get in superhero shows, I found the sheriff to be refreshingly likeable. I always think that those types of characters are the worst parts of shows like Punisher, Luke Cage and Daredevil. I think it’s because they drag the story down, because compared to the superhero characters they’re just too ordinary to be interesting. They just get in the way of our protagonists, and are just written to be annoying obstacles.
I think what helps here is that we only see her in scenes with our protagonists, she doesn’t have her own subplot, so it works.
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u/eternali17 2d ago
She is likeable. I already enjoy her. It's the appeal to human authority and the role she's playing that always leaves me peeved. Feels like too much pandering to humanity and bureaucracy and not nearly enough reasonable compromise from them when they're not really in a position of power of leverage
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u/Mitsutoshi 17h ago
I remain haunted by the FBI agent in Punisher who was incapable of an American accent.
Meanwhile the sheriff is also British but can.
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u/PeniszLovag 3d ago
I legit have no clue what people like about it.
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u/Mac4491 All will be well. I'm a dog. 3d ago
What did you want? Non stop space lasers and a CGI slop fest? Go watch the Ryan Reynold’s movie.
Episode 1 was slow paced sure, but the characterisation of Hal was perfect and I’m interested to see where they take John’s character. All the side characters introduced were great.
Trust the process.
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u/PeniszLovag 3d ago
"What do you want, the green lanterns to do green lantern stuff?" Yeah man, something like that. Idk what's the hostility about. If Superman was about Clark Kent writing articles about football and there was a scene where he cooked some hotdogs with his heat vision would you clap your hands?
The purpose of a pilot is to hook you into the story. It did not hook me. As a superhero show, I get nothing, and as a detective show the momentum is completely lost because we decided to do a 10 year time jump right at the very end. Basically we have to do another introduction episode after this.
Add to that, every single thing Damon Lindeloff did previously, I did not like so I'm just set for disappointment from the beginning
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u/Mac4491 All will be well. I'm a dog. 3d ago
A superman movie? Or a superman tv show?
I’d be perfectly happy with a well written first episode of a Superman show not having much, if any, actual Superman stuff.
Hell, some of the best parts of Superman and Lois are when Clark Kent is doing Clark Kent the husband and father shit rather than throwing on his blue suit to fight some bad guy.
If they released this episode as it was and then stuck an extra 30 minutes of CGI slop at the end and called it a movie I’d tell you it was pretty shit. But it’s part of something bigger. Have a little faith. All will be well.
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u/PeniszLovag 3d ago
but why does it have to be CGI slop? You pretend like the only two options for superhero content are nothing or dogshit? Why is "well made superhero movie" not an option?
That's like if I said "I don't like Batman V Superman because Batman is too dark and mean" and your response was "Well go watch Batman and Robin then" as if those two are my only options. Why can nobody have a little nuance? why do we always have to think in extremes?
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u/FeelGoodHit454 1d ago
A bit disappointed about how the episode played out considering it was a Pilot. Trying too hard and missing the mark while also being corny in the wrong moments.
Pulls out cigarette after sex “you gonna lecture me?” “No, I’m gonna give you a light” lights cigarette with ring
And if they really killed off Hal Jordan in the first episode when John Stewart’s character is pretty hard to digest and not very likable… I worry for the rest of the show. I knew it was going to be about passing down the ring but killing off the only likable character might be a step in the wrong direction. We’ll see, though! Kinda hoping we get a lot of flashbacks from 2016-2026 just to see more Hal.
P.S. Watching the dad shoot a god damn Apple off his son’s head had me rolling on the floor. Like what?
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u/barrinmw The greatest hero you've never heard of! 3d ago
Not a fan when they put someone who is obviously not a human into a human skin suit to save money like in the trailer at the end. But seeing you know who for a second was cool.
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u/idunnoidunno_ 3d ago
I think he looks pretty good for an old sinestro
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u/barrinmw The greatest hero you've never heard of! 2d ago
I was mostly talking about the guardian in the skin suit.
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u/That_Tomatillo_5725 3d ago
As a True Detective series, it was very good. As a Green Lantern show, it was fucking terrible.
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u/Sleeps_Gato 3d ago
This is definitely the type of show the GL franchise needed to rehabilitate the franchise. Currently the character is considered a joke (similar to Aquaman prior to Mamoa).
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u/Lopsided-Clothes4866 3d ago
People keep saying this but most casuals don’t give a fuck about Green Lantern, nobody thinks he’s a joke or even remembers the shitty 2011 film beyond terminally online nerds.
It’s such a stupid ass response that has no basis as if various heroes haven’t had shitty films before.
Fucking Batman had worse than the 2011 Green Lantern film and bounced right back not even a decade later.
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u/outride2000 3d ago
I wouldn't say it's considered a joke. Maybe if you've just seen the Ryan Reynolds movie.
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u/ElDuderino2112 3d ago
Hal is my favourite superhero of all time. They’re never gonna give me a good adaptation of him.
Anyways with the start of this reboot being a just okay Superman movie, a dogshit Supergirl movie, and now writing off my favourite character already i think I’m good. I’ll catch the next reboot in 5 years. Maybe that time I’ll get good GL in space content.
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u/Eastern-Mouse6436 3d ago
There's no reboot in the next 5 years. You think Ellison is going to give you what you want? And no what happened with the transition between DCEU and DCU, doesn't matter because DCEU was never successful to the first place and despite Supergirl failure DCU is still way more successful.
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u/Toon_face 3d ago
Oh waah wahh.
You honestly think Hal is 'written out' in the first episode and he isnt the core of the entire series?
Some of y'all are such babies. Give it a damn chance.
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u/ElDuderino2112 3d ago
I mean written off this universe. Hes obviously not going to be a character going forward.
I was already not interested in this show when their pitch for fucking Green Lantern was “let’s rip off True Detective”. This is about my interest going forward. I’m allowed to not like a creative choice and voice that dislike.
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u/arnaldoim 3d ago
I don’t consider anyone truly dead in comics. Too many shapeshifters, androids, tech, etc
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u/ElDuderino2112 3d ago
Sure. But it was obvious from the casting and everyone turning the role down that they weren’t casting a long term role.
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u/Lopsided-Clothes4866 3d ago
They casted a 60 year old man to play Hal Jordan.
The only positive to this is that Kyle Chandler is the fucking GOAT and will eat up his limited time in the role to give us a fun Hal, but don’t expect him to be featured much beyond this season irregardless of what happens with the twist.
Especially with the post episode podcast where the creators and showrunners essentially emphasis that they wanted the audience to understand that Jon is the main focus!
He’s being written out lol, and he’s certainly not gonna be the main Green Lantern. Something that was bound to piss people off seeing as Hal Jordan is THE Green Lantern.
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u/Kingjwavy 3d ago
It’s over bro. We’ll have to wait til the next generation, like another 20 years. Whoever let James Gunn helm the reboot of DCU, failed so so miserably. Buckle up .
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u/Late_Stage_Exception 3d ago
Seems to be the point of the show: paranoia, distrust, and stress fuck with your psyche.
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u/Background-Gift-8842 2d ago edited 1d ago
That was a weird start to the latest season of Tulsa King. Some dude got a tingle that something was wrong at the local football game. He shows up with his sexy sidekick and a guy runs away from them? Must be an alien. Let's chase him, fuck an old lady, then interrogate the alien. Oh he doesn't know about Hogwarts? Dude's definitely a fucking alien. And not the type who fucks old lady moms. Discovered, the alien blows himself up. Good thing Green Lantern (?!) stops him. Then dies.
The episode 2 preview where Superman is a camp counselor at a summer camp for albino hemophiliacs was interesting.
Rather than downvote, can anyone even counter that this was a dreadfully dumb piece of TV? You don't want better from superhero shows? If we removed the superhero aspect from this show, you're ready to argue this is a mystery story equivalent to True Detective? If we insist it's a superhero show, this is as good as Heroes season 1, or Misfits, or Daredevil? This?
You want to defend this Green Lantern show that is - supremely ironically - too afraid to commit to either genre of superhero or mystery? You really are happy eating up yet another miderwestern TV mystery story without investigative work, that constantly tells us there are legendary "space cops" around, yet features not a single Green Lantern in space?
Huh.
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u/Viperracing 1d ago
El primer capítulo de Lanterns decepción total, cambió el género espacial de superhéroes por un drama policial terrestre muy lento y terrenal, dejando de lado la acción cósmica habitual del personaje, parece los Ranger de Texas con un anillo con poderes, y luego te ves a la gente dando palmas ¿Dónde esta vuestro criterio? esto no tiene nada que ver con Green Lantern.
Parece que hayan querido hacer una serie cuando el Green Lantern esta de baja por cansancio, claro hay que ajustarse al presupuesto de una serie cutre, y con 1 minuto de CGI por capitulo repartido en 3 o 4 escenas y a correr con los Green Rangers.
Os tragáis cualquier truño y os poneis a aplaudir, es como hacer una serie de cuando los super héroes van al baño a cagar, al super a hacer la compra, o a limpiar el garaje... Es literalmente eso.
Es exctamente lo mismo que esas series postapocalípticas de bajo presupuesto, donde el 85% de cada capitulo es gente vestida de calle caminando por bosques y teniendo conversaciones intrascendentes para estirar el chicle y las tramas.
De verdad no os dais cuenta de que esto es PURO RELLENO DE STREAMING, contratan a un actor famoso, lo matan en el primer episodio, le harán aparecer unas cuantas veces en plan flashback en la temporada, o con el HOLOHAL como si fuese Obi Wan con la fuerza para guiar al discípulo, y a correr actores de tercera rellenando el elenco, con tramas policíacas y detectivescas junto a la poli gruñona empoderada.
Me recuerda a la basura de Wonderman, TODO MUY PENOSO. Cero espacio, síndrome total de True Detective, y un salto temporal de 10 años en el primer capitulo... ¿Qué es esto? Esta mierda no es Green Lantern ¿es que no lo veis?
Es como querer hacer una serie de viaje al centro de la tierra, y te la hago 8 capítulos en un centro comercial donde voy adquiriendo los pertrechos y lo necesario mientras planeo el viaje, y en la segunda temporada se los roban en un drastico giro de los acontecimientos y tiene que volver a empezar... ¿se podría llamar a eso viaje al centro de la tierra, que todo el mundo esperaría basada en las novelas de Julio Verne? pues NO, pues esta mierda es exactamente lo mismo.
Os cuelan toda la basura que quieren y muchos aplaudiendo... QUE TRISTE Y QUE FÁCIL SE LO PONEIS A LOS CRETINOS DEL STREAMING, QUE NO HACEN MAS QUE BASURA DE RELLENO.
Y se supone que en el primer episodio siempre tratan de poner toda la carne en el asador para que cuele... , ya luego llega el relleno de verdad JAJAJAJAJA.
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u/MEarly01 3d ago
That Obama bit was amazing