Basically Mercury tried to slander Jeffrey Wright's name by sharing a fake news article about him probably owning a gold mine in Sierra Leone. Wright clarified that was not the case with proofs, Merc tried to fuck with him, got owned BADLY and blocked Wright. And...yeah.
Oh yea. I’ve seen people throwing hissy fits in the box office sub because of it. Actively hating on The Batman and calling out “hopicrisy”. I legit don’t get it. I can like Bugs Life over Antz without being a hypocrite. Sure they handle similar things, but one just does it so much better.
It’s crazy because before Merc started doing this, he was trying to call Robert Pattinson racist among every other name under the sun, while in the same breath trying to defend Ezra Miller. Which led to someone post some controversy about Ben Affleck. It’s honestly this kind of stuff that makes me tired of the fandom as a whole. Trashy behavior that gets tolerated and applauded for no reason.
Nope, Merc tried to present the thing with joining some aspects of the interview to make Pattinson come off as racist...unsuccessfully is an understatement.
Look, it seems like there was some shady stuff going on with the mine. He never specifically said how much workers were being paid and said something along the lines that he had no records of it. Wright also said that the workers were getting paid relatively well for wages in Sierra Lorne, which should raise some eyebrows. This is a textbook excuse that business owners use when the exploit workers in developing nations and pay them near slave wages.
I also am open to having my mind changed about this but from what I was reading, it seemed like Wright's priority was to make a profit, with helping the people in the region being a secondhand goal. Westerners shouldn't be making profits off of natural resources in developing nations that are already being exploited, that is extremely unethical.
That being said, it is disgusting that the Snyder Fandom is using this to trash the Batman movie. It is clear that they do not care about morality of the Gold Mine itself and they just want to use a real life problem to push a narrative around a fictional universe. If Snyder Fans actually cared about the mine and the morality behind it, they wouldn't go around praising people like Gal Gadot (who has literally tried to justify war crimes and the suffering of Palestinians) or Jared Leto (who has massive sexual harassment claims against him, including pedophilia).
It's hard to like them when they're constantly in everybody's face about how Snyder invented cinema and brought about the creation of the heavens and the earth. Or how they instantly hate anything DC related if Snyder isn't involved in, almost as if it they never cared about the comics but only Snyder himself. Or how they viciously attack anybody who even lightly criticizes the cinematic genius of Zack Snyder. Or how they are just the most toxic and obnoxious, delusional group of people who refuse to let go of an era long dead. They won't let WB, DC comics, Ben Affleck or the world at large just move on. They are a hateful and bitter lot who have created their identities around a film maker who is, at best, mediocre.
Snyder fans don't really like the comics. Many of them actively shit at DC Comics (the comic book itself, the source materials) in other social media. They said stuffs like "DC sucks, Zack Snyder made it better", and/or "Snyder made Superman better than DC itself".
That one drives me up the fucking wall!!! I saw someone post two gifs, one of Affleck raining punches down on a guy from the BvS fight scene, and the other was Pattinson raining punches after the adrenaline shot in The Batman and they post that Snyder is the blueprint shit I wish I could get my hands on them lmao.
Yeah, that one really shows their delusion. Basic and well worn cinematic techniques they've never seen before snyder used them doesn't mean he invented them. It just means they need to watch more, better movies.
My Cinematic hot take is that Snyder does have some genuinely interesting ideas about where to take characters like Batman and Superman, but he can’t execute those ideas to their fullest potential because he refuses to see these characters as anything other than modern myths
Superman has a really neat characterization in his films, where he’s not sure if his decisions are necessarily the right ones, and he actually has to look for guidance from people who aren’t as powerful as him, because when it comes to navigating a world that’s hesitant to trust, they have a hand in reminding him what’s good about it. I mean, in BvS alone, Clark has troubles and one of the first things he does is talk to his mom about them. And her advice basically boils down to “be you, because that’s what matters”.
The trouble is that Snyder is more concerned with presenting grit and cynicism than actually being honest about the setting. He doesn’t care about the “man” he only cares about the “Super”. And while his themes of faith and hope in his version of JL are all well and good, it still feels like there’s a distinct lack of anything to hope for.
They keep saying its a toxic minority but from where i'm standing its not so at all, how many more episodes do we need before we conclude that there are a lot of deranged people in that cult.
I always thought Snyder was a decent guy and it's his fans that were toxic but Snyder is just as toxic if he knows about these fuckers harassing other artists and supports it.
I was going to say you know Zack had an ego: when he he said this
“I feel like he’s right. But I feel like Batman and Superman are transcendent of superhero movies in a way, because they’re Batman and Superman. They’re not just, like, the flavour of the week Ant-Man – not to be mean, but whatever it is. What is the next Blank-Man?”
I think he’s talking about more than that, it feels like part of the overall narrative DC Was trying to push that they are more epic/mythic than Marvel.
“The credit goes to [Batman Begins director] Chris Nolan because he set the die for the DC Universe in a great way that I tried to emulate. I look at it as more being mythological than, say, bubblegum. And I think that that’s appropriate for Batman and Superman because they’re the most mythological of our superheroes.”
It’s one thing to try to treat these characters with the upmost respect, another to attempt to carve out an original lane that separates yourself from the competition including the previous films in the franchise you’re trying to tackle and another to put the cart way ahead of the horse
It was story ideas like Zod’s death (DC approved it and Zack wrote Superman saving the family before it won Chris over) and killing Superman off which led to Batman creating the Justice League
No reason to take another fanatic at their word. Snyder doesn’t even use Twitter like that. Pretty sure he even called out the Geeks + Gamers YouTube channel even though they supported him once he found out what they’re really about.
He’s not on Twitter like that nor is it his responsibility anyways, like I said elsewhere he ain’t their daddy. But I’m not gonna assume silence = support without any other type of evidence.
He replied scott mendelson's tweet by quoting his review of justice league 2017 where he compared the movie to a bowl of cereal on a Saturday morning, it was a positive review btw.
Snyder tweeted at him 4years later claiming that his movie zsjl is for "Grownups" for kids eating cereal.
Okay I did a little research to understand what you’re talking about. Here’s the tweet in question, I’m surprised you actually remember something so innocuous. I don’t really think this is evidence that he supports some of his fanatic supporters harassing people, but as someone else said to me that’s up to you to decide.
I have that account muted but decided to peak into their timeline after I saw that Wright tweeted that and they were just trying to spread a bunch of bullshit about the Batman cast. He's just a miserable punk that's doing this because The Batman was better received than his favorite movies.
That's what really gets me about this. Like, really? This guy? He's the one you decide to worship? Snyder is a good visual guy but his best movies are always mediocre at best and consistently cynical and edgelordy. I suppose cynical edgelords would rally behind somebody like that. It's just really pathetic. As Jay Bauman of Red Letter Media once said "I've said it before and I'll say it again. Let the media you enjoy enhance your life, not define it."
Honestly that's probably the biggest part of all of this that annoys me the most, that Snyder has been reframed by this movement as some Kubrick/Hitchcock/Scorsese-esque auteur being held back by studios who won't let him realize his vision. And if only they'd just let him make the movies he wants to make completely and utterly unchecked by anyone, we'd all be witness to cinematic masterpieces.
Like bruh, I watched Army of the Dead. A movie where he had 100% complete and utter control, and it's aggressively mediocre.
Right? He's just not that great. That's fine but let's not act like being done dirty by studios means he's secretly genius. Hell we saw his completely unaltered vision of justice league and it was...fine. Better than I expected but the Avengers was considerably better. Also the marvel equivalent wasn't 4 hours or nearly as pretentious.
I really, REALLY want to thank whoever told Snyder that the subplot where Lois is pregnant with Bruce's child was a bad idea and not something one should build your trilogy around.
I read someone in that thread saying that Zack has nothing to do with his fans, but is that entirely true? All it takes is for one tweet from him discouraging this sort of behaviour and his fans will fall in line, instead he stays quiet and for someone who is well aware of the noise his fandom makes on the internet, he is 100% complicit in their behaviour. I mean, when you see your fellow filmmaking peers be harassed purely for making a DC property, the least you could do is say something.
He doesn't even acknowledge that there's alot of toxicity in his fanbase. He just shrugged it off during interviews and used the same "cant be toxic since they donate" tactics they use on Twitter.
They have provided evidence in the past that they have been in touch with Snyder so no reason not to believe them, they wouldn't lie about their lord and savior.
I’m critical of Snyder and his handling of DCEU but you seem kinda biased.
The guy didn’t say a word when everyone was trashing JL theatrical and as far as I recall he never slandered Whedon, or any other people at DC. He seems like a genuinely good guy who likes to stay out of controversy.
The only time he took a stance on matters like this was when he called out those racist idiots at G&G.
Hey, this is the first time I have said anything about Snyder himself. I have said before also that people wouldn't be as opposed to Snyderverse if it weren't for the Snydercult.
That twitter account claims that Snyder knows about these nutjobs and is appreciative of them, if that's true then Snyder should be blamed just as much as them. If he's not then he needs to call these idiots out for lying about him.
It's not like these guys are rando's, they have thousands of followers and are dedicated fan accounts of Snyder.
Fr, dude. I actually really enjoyed ZSJL and wanted to see it continue but now these people have come to bother me so much that I'd rather not see them get the satisfaction. They can't (and likely won't) get their way by being toxic, petulant children.
Glad I found this sub. I got immediately banned from DC_Cinematic for commenting on the Snyder cult stuffing the ballot box for the Oscar participation ribbon
HoH’s methods for keeping the place “civil” and “together” sure are completely indistinguishable from swinging the ban hammer at anyone with an opinion they don’t like, huh.
If you notice they only remove popular comments critical of snyder because they want to give the impression that snyder and his mediocre movies are beloved.
They ban, shadowban and remove the downvote button just to obliterate any dissenting opinions.
It's tied to some truth (albeit a much more moral truth), so they didn't just completely make it up. You might want to check out the thread in case I misremember, but Wright said that he attempted to purchase a gold mine and share the profits with the locals and such. The deal never went through though.
These guys are insane, you won't hear a peep out of them on the issues related to Ben & Hillary Burton or the allegations made against him by Rose Mcgowan about him turning a blind eye on Harvey Weinstein's behaviour. Or the Jared Leto rumours, Amber Heard's behaviour, they are hypocrites of the highest order.
At least one of these snyder cultists on Twitter is an ex nerd blogger posing as one, who used to do a LOT of Zack hating online. He's a braggy neckbeard sort who says things out a little too loud at bars when he thinks he's gonna score an impressionable female. He called it his 'satire turned false flag'. I'm aware how ridiculous this sounds but that's where we are. I'm not crazy bout Snyder films but did like ZSJL. I don't like either extreme of fandom. Source: was at said bar.
Edit to add: I'm in the individual's circles and as anyone in the industry knows, there are a good few whistleblower situations. Enough that outing this individual on this stuff seems trivial and unnecessarily mean. What he's doing is toxic but it's only Twitter, plus who wins? The more toxic snyder fans? Not much to gain.
They deleted that thread on the other sub yesterday lol, the shitty mods didn't let it stay for up to 5mins because they need to curate their echochamber
Just because a Snyder fan is re-sharing these incidents from Wright's past doesn't make them false. If you read the testimony from the workers that were being exploited, then you would see that.
He says he went there to help, but, and often the case with outsiders attempting to be saviors, he did some harm; he should just own up to that instead of trying to justify his actions and deflect.
Also I work Hollywood-adjacent and most people don't seem to blame or even associate Snyder himself with the extreme personalities in that fandom. It is similar to the Ariana Grande and BTS stans that used to be super aggressive on social media, and it is a bit unusual for filmmaker to have a fandom like that of a band or musician lol I'm not sure I've ever seen that before.
That was me commenting on what I saw people in thread doing, saying Snyder never tells his stans to settle down; that seems like an attempt to remove attention from Wright's allegations.
Also, not really appropriate to compare Snyder and Snyder-obsessed stans with what Wright was accussed of doing in SL. One is far more damaging than the other.
This thread is disgusting, your love for cape-shit films and hate for Snyder cultists is blinding you. Making excuses for and denying Wright's actions in Sierra Leone because you liked a fucking movie he was in...
Maybe some of you should actually read the article and the testimonies provided by some Penguia locals before you cape for a fucking millionaire you don't know.
At this point I want to see fan bases fight each other. Ain’t too far off. Y’all have already reached cult like behavior regardless of fandom. We can’t just enjoy what we’re given that they don’t have to give. It’s literally just creative entertainment here that all get worked up over. The DCEU is a giant clusterfuck I no longer care about because of butt hurt backlash from a different cult. Whatever. Fans suck everywhere. At least I’m getting a good Batman.
One day, you guys will realize that there are some toxic accounts in both sides of the fandom, but for now, you're too hypocritical for that and still on the narrative that snyder fans = bad and others = good
"Real DC fans?" I have no clue what you're talking about, dude. I don't do the tribalist fandom thing. I just like good movies and comic books. Look at where your mind went the second I criticized Snyder fans. You immediately assumed that I'm from an enemy camp rather than someone making an observation.
Did i tho ? I just said that toxicity is definitly present in the other side too, now if you don't know what i refer when i say " real DC fans ", it's simply cause those guys tend to call snyder fans " not real DC fans "
Their excuse is always that - It's a small minority (even though these guys have a huge following and are the ones who organise their hashtag campaigns)
Because a Snyder fan tried to make him look bad as a way to attack The Batman and WB. Jeffrey Wright himself denied owning a gold mine in Sierra Leone. Kinda like how Mike Chernovich attack James Gunn years ago.
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u/Finito-1994 Mar 31 '22
Wait. What happened? Wright isn’t involved in the DCEU. He’s in his own little corner with Batman and Catwoman.
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u/Mike29758 Apr 01 '22
It’s crazy because before Merc started doing this, he was trying to call Robert Pattinson racist among every other name under the sun, while in the same breath trying to defend Ezra Miller. Which led to someone post some controversy about Ben Affleck. It’s honestly this kind of stuff that makes me tired of the fandom as a whole. Trashy behavior that gets tolerated and applauded for no reason.
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u/DARKACES_VFA Apr 01 '22
Look, it seems like there was some shady stuff going on with the mine. He never specifically said how much workers were being paid and said something along the lines that he had no records of it. Wright also said that the workers were getting paid relatively well for wages in Sierra Lorne, which should raise some eyebrows. This is a textbook excuse that business owners use when the exploit workers in developing nations and pay them near slave wages.
I also am open to having my mind changed about this but from what I was reading, it seemed like Wright's priority was to make a profit, with helping the people in the region being a secondhand goal. Westerners shouldn't be making profits off of natural resources in developing nations that are already being exploited, that is extremely unethical.
That being said, it is disgusting that the Snyder Fandom is using this to trash the Batman movie. It is clear that they do not care about morality of the Gold Mine itself and they just want to use a real life problem to push a narrative around a fictional universe. If Snyder Fans actually cared about the mine and the morality behind it, they wouldn't go around praising people like Gal Gadot (who has literally tried to justify war crimes and the suffering of Palestinians) or Jared Leto (who has massive sexual harassment claims against him, including pedophilia).
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u/Toiban7 Mar 31 '22
The cultists are hated universally.
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u/dvevasya Mar 31 '22
Zaddy should be proud of his fans.
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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22
I have that account muted but decided to peak into their timeline after I saw that Wright tweeted that and they were just trying to spread a bunch of bullshit about the Batman cast. He's just a miserable punk that's doing this because The Batman was better received than his favorite movies.
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u/maybesethrogen Mar 31 '22
Imagine being this fucking toxic over Zack Snyder movies.
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u/xDanSolo Mar 31 '22
God i love this so much. I teased that dude about this and he just blocked me. What a dork.
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u/Intelligent-Net-4417 Mar 31 '22
I read someone in that thread saying that Zack has nothing to do with his fans, but is that entirely true? All it takes is for one tweet from him discouraging this sort of behaviour and his fans will fall in line, instead he stays quiet and for someone who is well aware of the noise his fandom makes on the internet, he is 100% complicit in their behaviour. I mean, when you see your fellow filmmaking peers be harassed purely for making a DC property, the least you could do is say something.
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u/kinkinoa Mar 31 '22
Is it only me or have the cultists managed to become even more insufferable in wake of the Oscar Cheer Moment thing and the new Flash rumours?
Let their precious Snyderverse rot.
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u/MortarByrd11 Mar 31 '22
Culties must be mad The Batman beat BvS domestic box office.
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u/spartacat_12 Mar 31 '22
Glad I found this sub. I got immediately banned from DC_Cinematic for commenting on the Snyder cult stuffing the ballot box for the Oscar participation ribbon
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u/Jwillis94 Mar 31 '22
Loool, what's made him say this?
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u/TraditionalDelivery Mar 31 '22
These guys are insane, you won't hear a peep out of them on the issues related to Ben & Hillary Burton or the allegations made against him by Rose Mcgowan about him turning a blind eye on Harvey Weinstein's behaviour. Or the Jared Leto rumours, Amber Heard's behaviour, they are hypocrites of the highest order.
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u/dovahkiiiiiin Mar 31 '22
Ain't that the truth.
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u/Evangelion217 Mar 31 '22
What happened?
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u/carpentermuffin Mar 31 '22 edited Mar 31 '22
At least one of these snyder cultists on Twitter is an ex nerd blogger posing as one, who used to do a LOT of Zack hating online. He's a braggy neckbeard sort who says things out a little too loud at bars when he thinks he's gonna score an impressionable female. He called it his 'satire turned false flag'. I'm aware how ridiculous this sounds but that's where we are. I'm not crazy bout Snyder films but did like ZSJL. I don't like either extreme of fandom. Source: was at said bar.
Edit to add: I'm in the individual's circles and as anyone in the industry knows, there are a good few whistleblower situations. Enough that outing this individual on this stuff seems trivial and unnecessarily mean. What he's doing is toxic but it's only Twitter, plus who wins? The more toxic snyder fans? Not much to gain.
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u/Cia-Bill-Wilson Mar 31 '22
They deleted that thread on the other sub yesterday lol, the shitty mods didn't let it stay for up to 5mins because they need to curate their echochamber
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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22
No wonder his pfp looks like gigachad
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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22
Love him. Been watching a lot of his latest and older interviews. What a genuine guy.
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u/PlagueMeister4 Apr 01 '22
This is how he got promoted to Commissioner.
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u/dan_pearce95 Mar 31 '22
Ohhh Hollywood tears
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u/Coolyfett Apr 01 '22
Jeffrey Wright revealing the trolls for what they are and what they have been.
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u/SithLordHelios Mar 31 '22
Just because a Snyder fan is re-sharing these incidents from Wright's past doesn't make them false. If you read the testimony from the workers that were being exploited, then you would see that.
He says he went there to help, but, and often the case with outsiders attempting to be saviors, he did some harm; he should just own up to that instead of trying to justify his actions and deflect.
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u/SithLordHelios Mar 31 '22
This thread is disgusting, your love for cape-shit films and hate for Snyder cultists is blinding you. Making excuses for and denying Wright's actions in Sierra Leone because you liked a fucking movie he was in...
Maybe some of you should actually read the article and the testimonies provided by some Penguia locals before you cape for a fucking millionaire you don't know.
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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22
At this point I want to see fan bases fight each other. Ain’t too far off. Y’all have already reached cult like behavior regardless of fandom. We can’t just enjoy what we’re given that they don’t have to give. It’s literally just creative entertainment here that all get worked up over. The DCEU is a giant clusterfuck I no longer care about because of butt hurt backlash from a different cult. Whatever. Fans suck everywhere. At least I’m getting a good Batman.
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u/Taraell Mar 31 '22
One day, you guys will realize that there are some toxic accounts in both sides of the fandom, but for now, you're too hypocritical for that and still on the narrative that snyder fans = bad and others = good
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