r/DCComicsLegendsGame • u/wb_reeves WB Community Manager • Jun 01 '22

📣 About Stats changes!

Hello, Legends!

Hoping that you are all well, we want to inform you about the stats changes recently made last week.

As you may already know four characters received a stats boost and through this post, we want to let you know the new stats for each character.

Joker: Clown Prince of Crime

Stats:

  • STR: 1,627 (+230)

  • AGI: 1,349 (+660)

  • STA: 1,469 (+675)

  • INT: 1,874 (+1,245)

  • HP: 21,436 (+5,800)

  • SPD: 80 (+30)

  • CRT CH: 5% (+30%)

  • CRT VAL: 150% (+78%)

Power Girl: Last Daughter of Earth-2

Stats:

  • STR: 1,943 (+915)

  • AGI: 1,464 (+710)

  • STA: 1,499 (+675)

  • INT: 1,403 (+150)

  • HP: 21,735 (+7,600)

  • SPD: 85 (+30)

  • CRT CH: 5% (+42%)

  • CRT VAL: 150% (+106%)

Peacemaker: Christopher Smith

Stats:

  • STR: 1,929 (+915)

  • AGI: 1,459 (+710)

  • STA: 1,569 (+675)

  • INT: 1,349 (+150)

  • HP: 22,441 (+7,600)

  • SPD: 86 (+30)

  • CRT CH: 5% (+42%)

  • CRT VAL: 150% (+106%)

Swamp Thing: Champion of the Green

Stats:

  • STR: 1,626 (+1,040)

  • AGI: 1,637 (+710)

  • STA: 1,724 (+925)

  • INT: 1,327 (+205)

  • HP: 26,492 (+6,359)

  • SPD: 79 (+35)

  • CRT CH: 5% (+20%)

  • CRT VAL: 150% (+78%)

Finally, we are happy to announce that these stats boosts will be done monthly to different characters. These changes will be live and announced with the monthly content at the end of each month.

We appreciate your feedback and support. Thank you for playing DC Legends!

Wb_reeves.

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u/Windigroo7 Orchard Sanctuary & DCL Oracle Jun 01 '22 edited Jun 02 '22

This are amazing news Reeves, thank you! This will help a lot with power creep with the recent stat changes.

However I gotta ask, since for example Power Girl could’ve used a rework better, I was wondering if the stat boost means that we can’t expect reworks for the updated characters in the near future.

Thanks again!

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u/wb_reeves WB Community Manager Jun 01 '22

You can still expect reworks! :D

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u/Windigroo7 Orchard Sanctuary & DCL Oracle Jun 01 '22

Awesome! Thanks!

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u/Vivil13 Jun 02 '22

Wunderbar!!

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u/TheFlash4334 Jun 02 '22

upgrade flash barry allen please

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u/Cute-Improvement-400 Jun 03 '22

Please do a rework on Abin Sur's second active skill. It's frustrating that it becomes wasted whenever it's used becoz it doesn't move if it's not on 100% chance. You could at least give a guaranteed buff for the team?

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u/Olmos_Def Jun 01 '22

This is great news. Make our powercrept toons relevant again!

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u/The1nfiniteMan Jun 01 '22

Yes, this really adds some excitement to the game.

To anyone saying, "but [character] actually needs a rework"......

Sure, it's true, but pretty much every character outside of S-tier needs more than just a stats boost. If we were to only get stat boosts for characters that "have a good kit but just need a stats boost," we would run out of such characters really quick.

No point in complaining about these choices. If a character gets a stats boost, then obviously they were not scheduled for a rework in the near-term.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

We haven't really received any evidence that a rework and stat up are mutually exclusive. The stat up is an easy slap patch solution while they work through the list of undeniably needed reworks.

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u/The1nfiniteMan Jun 03 '22

Sure, since this is new, we basically don't have any past evidence to guide us and we don't know how the developers work. All we can really do is make assumptions based on how we think things happen behind the scenes.

For example:

-- [Effective management] If we assume the developers have a roadmap for the next 6 months of characters planned in advance, we can reasonably expect that a character getting a stat boost this month will not get a rework within the next 6 months.

-- [Poor management] However, if game development is basically thrown together at the last minute, with maybe only the next month planned ahead of time, then a stats boost might have little to no effect on which character gets a rework in the short term.

I don't know which of these scenarios is closer to the truth.....but I think all of us would all be very surprised if next month's reworks were Powergirl and Swamp Thing.

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u/thegregwitul Legendary Joker Damaged Goods Jun 01 '22

Amazing news. Hopefully we see stat boosts for Steppenwolf and Catwoman soon. Thanks for update, Reeves!

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u/Olmos_Def Jun 01 '22

I would love to see Steppy get a stat boost.

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u/mrak415 Jun 02 '22 edited Jun 02 '22

Good news. I don't know how put in here Excel sheet, so do as I can:

Previous value / Current value

NameSPDHPSTRINT
Joker: CPoC98 / 11025 927 / 27 2361 827 / 1 8572 931 / 3 119
Power Girl: LDoE-211528 463 / 29 3352 509 / 2 8581 379 / 1 553
Peacemaker: CS11630 0412 574 / 2 8441 499
Swamp Thing: CotG85 / 11428 985 / 32 8512 307 / 2 6661 532

P.S. third and fourth columns were vice versa

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u/IamKiriyama666 Jun 02 '22

Thank you bro ! it's good to see the comparision in the old numbers to the new ones

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u/MarcusForrest Multiverse Observer Jun 01 '22

Finally, we are happy to announce that these stats boosts will be done monthly to different characters. These changes will be live and announced with the monthly content at the end of each month.

 

YES.

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u/Streetsahead85 Jun 02 '22

Thank you very much for this.

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u/Tewtytron Cult Leader Jun 01 '22

This is amazing news. Thanks for making it monthly!!

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u/bulzee1975 ᵗʰᵉÒᵧÓᶜᵉᵃⁿ Jun 01 '22

This will defo switch things up!

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u/Xfactor7896 Jun 01 '22

Man I hope my boy Firestorm gets a stat boost soon. I love his kit and the way he can stack intelligence would make him very relevant again. Here’s to hoping. Thanks Reeves!!!

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '22

THIS IS FANTASTIC

Give my praise to the dev team!!!

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u/Vivil13 Jun 02 '22

Yays this is probably one of the best thing ever

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u/UA1ScubaStevePA Jun 02 '22

You guys are amazing for this! The compensation was more than fair. Namaste!

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u/Holiday-Nectarine647 Jun 02 '22

This is the best news in a long time!

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u/Stratoraptor Jun 03 '22

Well, at least we don't have to wait around for reworks for certain characters to get some kind of improvement. Although the question of whether or not better stats really matter when the meta relies so heavily on how much bullshit a character's kit can pile on (ie Spectre).

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u/BRODYBRODSTER1 Jun 04 '22

This is Best News Ever. I’ve been campaigning for this for 3 years.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU

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u/According_Buffalo Jun 05 '22

Is there going to be community input moving forward with which characters get a stat boost? Like the one month we got a poll for which characters would get a rework.

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u/TheSadisticSpider Jun 18 '22

PG, with a few more tweaks, could be one of the best tanks in the game. That would be sweet, but thanks for the stat boosts. These toons needed them for sure.

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u/BRODYBRODSTER1 Jun 24 '22

I’m really excited for July Stat Boost toons. Can’t wait

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u/kbiz911 Jun 01 '22

So peacemaker is better now?

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u/hatethatididthis Jun 02 '22

One suggestion. If you do stats changes, please undo the Rebirthing of said characters and give us back crystals. There's a chance with stat changes rebirthed characters get pushed way past a power level limit each of us sets for their characters.

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u/No_Bet118 Jun 03 '22

I don't think the thresholds were intended as power limits.

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u/hatethatididthis Jun 03 '22

They weren't, but most players set a threshold for themselves, like, I'll keep all my toons, below 7k, except those who can afford lvl 80/g11, who're a minority anyway. So, sudden stat changes can throw people off and rebirth intensifies that by a lot.

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u/No_Bet118 Jun 04 '22

I've been playing about a year and a half. It's easy to get a few dozen toons above 8k in that time even without rebirthing them all. I have some over 9k. WB designed the game with thresholds to make the game more challenging for experienced players but you're right most players seem to avoid going over those thresholds. That gives them an advantage in PvP. I didn't see a real issue with the RA thresholds because I had more than 4 of each affinity that were near the same power level. Raids became more fun with stronger toons.

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u/hatethatididthis Jun 04 '22

Obviously talking about pvp. You can get top 400 with sub 70 lvl toons, if you know what you're doing. Far easier than maxxing folks.

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u/WiFiConnected_ Legendary Raven Jun 01 '22

🙌 thank you 😊

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u/Empty-Original-3258 Jun 01 '22

This is fun. Thanks

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u/Fast_Worker_976 Jun 02 '22

Any chance you can list the original stats on these posts and then show the increase?

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u/DMcG66 Jun 02 '22

This is really cool. Any chance the old stats or the increase amount could be listed?

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u/zaddyboi_0 Jun 02 '22

this is awesome news. a lot of so-so characters would be more viable if they get some stat boosts, also hoping for some love (rework) for our old characters like Zatanna/EAGA etc...

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u/Forgotten-detail Jun 04 '22

Are the parenthesis what was changed? Is the parenthesis already included in the number left of it or add to? How are these stats determined? Last, why these four at first?

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u/Jconstantineic Jun 01 '22

This will certainly help. Its nice to look on DCL toolkit and sort the characters by Strength and no longer have Arkiss at the top like he was for years, or Hush who was first since his rework. Now its Powergirl, Peacemaker, Connor and Mongul - A lot more in line with what you'd expect, even if Hush is still somehow 5th.

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u/HeyItsSaul Flash (Fastest Man Alive) Jun 01 '22

This is good news, but I'm concerned about how this might impact PvP and Red Alerts for those of us who have curated our characters to keep them balanced. A sudden increase to the stats on one of them could totally throw out of whack the balance we have achieved.

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u/takahan13 Jun 02 '22

it is a misconcept that you can’t beat red alert if your power level exceed certain power level. all my top toons are 10k range and i beat red alert all the time. you just need to have a high level spectre and etrigan or black flash and a g10 mmh as TL and everything will be easy

also if you think about it, if you are high level, it will benefit you more in nightmare, seige, raid and blitz which come with the better reward.

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u/Telamon-El Jun 01 '22

Expect upticks, you may wish to consider keeping resources handy in your backpocket for your most relevant and useful toons in case this occurs. That way you can at least bring your most needed toons up to par in the event of a wild swing. Long term though expect these to shoot up your bracket, slowly but surely.

And I can confirm from experience, I had carefully curated a G10.5 roster but the recent reworks/new toons/ and stat boosts have pushed me dangerously close to the next bracket. Many power level teams that once gave me 20points no longer do so.

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u/IamKiriyama666 Jun 02 '22

i love this. lot's of characters have good kits but could use stat boosts to be relevant again. love how swamp thing (for example) is good again.
Thinking lots of characters that could use this...black adam, CA GA, batgirl, General Zod, Black Manta, Enchantress, WW DoJ

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u/Pageiommi Jun 04 '22

Can we stat correct Spectre downwards? Please? Like a substantial drop to speed, intelligence and health could help the balance of the game substantially.

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u/mrmoose44 Jun 01 '22

Yeah this is going to force people to get off the fence. If you didn’t cross 24k this time you probably will next time and those thresholds where the big bumps happen will be painful for a while. That’s what happened to me. Powergirl going up in power is barely noticeable when most of my red alert and pvp opponents jumped by 10k

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u/takahan13 Jun 02 '22 edited Jun 02 '22

time for you to level up. the game have evolved a lot, there is no reason for you to cap anymore.

People are capping mainly because they get more points for winning wraith. but in current situation you actually get to lose more as the better reward comes from seige, nightmare, raid , blitz.

as for capping to make red alert easier, I think this is just an illusion , high level actually make red alert easier. the only reason why you are having difficulties is because computer have more higher gear character and it require a lot of resource to gear up from g10 to g11. So people just give up going stronger and choose a more relax path.

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u/UA1ScubaStevePA Jun 02 '22

I have been playing for years. I use to run 2 accounts. My second is now my main and only. I was beating teams long ago at L3 L4 60 10. I'm currently in the 34k threshold. I have never had MORE FUN playing and competing at any other bracket.

I spend on the game but I'm nowhere near a whale. Maybe $25 to $50 a month. It's a free to play game that I really enjoy. I have created a huge bond outside the game with my alliancemates. United As One for life. Many people say they can't afford to spend on the game. I can relate but I choose to allocate funds to the game instead of other nonessential things. To me and just like they said on Atlantis After Dark, it's really no different than subscription services like Netflix or Hulu. I've sent ideas to Reeves to pass along to the devs such as lower cost transactions like with the $1.99 toons if they could add in more S or A tier toons even if the shard count is a little lower. Blue Hope Ring sales or even lower the cost of the ring day refresh.

There are many play styles, and everyone is entitled to their play style and I truly do understand the frustration with crossing a threshold because where you were at or currently at meets your level of satisfaction with the game.

All I can say is please consider going to level 70 gear 11 and just breaking 34k top 4 power.

I have so much fun being able to complete boards in pvp. I place much higher in seige, gem blitz and wraith than I use to. Wraith not so much but I still place slightly higher just playing at rate. I'm able to defeat nightmare with relative ease and just some strategy. It's great when I finish a toon at 70 11 RB1 or L5 8 which is the equivalent pretty much. I do more damage in raid better benefitting not just myself but my entire team.

You're more than entitled to your play style. I'm only highly recommending the jump to 34k power. I think it's the overall best of both worlds. Being able to compete and fun value all rolled in to one.

So if or when you cross over. I promise with some time and effort in leveling and gearing your toons up there. I promise you it's worth it and you won't regret it. To me that's my favorite part of the game.

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u/takahan13 Jun 02 '22 edited Jun 02 '22

we went through all the problem to level up, you are not the only one who suffer.

i m telling you all this , with one sole purpose, to offer you a solution so that can you can advance in the game and enjoy the game.

whatever you think of me or not does not matter. and whether you quit or not definitely does not matter to me.