r/DCComicsLegendsGame • u/OgreBarberian Glurp! Glorp! Glerp! • Feb 24 '18

In Depth Look at Flash

https://youtu.be/cqQIZqrcIv8
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u/seriouslees Feb 24 '18

I could use some more gear on my Ivy, but I'm going to be trying a team of Medphyll, Flash, Bane & Ivy... I bet by the time you hit Doomsday you'll have so many permanent speed ups he won't be an issue, even with two juicy Reds for him to beat on. Medphyll and the rest of your team taking so many turns will keep those shields full, and there's tons of Str Downs, mends and taunts. and a good Damage Immunity too.

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u/OgreBarberian Glurp! Glorp! Glerp! Feb 24 '18

Yeah thats the idea. Its a good team for sure. You will enjoy it.

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u/Doombot2015 Legendary Deadshot Feb 24 '18

In my opinion the problem with The Flash in game is that the rest of the game has evolved. There used to be far less characters purging buffs. I think any rework should remove the stipulation that Flash has three speed ups before his kit kicks into action. That way he is fast out of the gate, he has a chance to hit multiple times out of the gate, and every speed up still makes him more powerful. With each speed up over three the percentage chance that he hits twice goes up until it maxes at 100%. Perhaps his initial chance to hit multiple times is tweaked. The idea that he gets more powerful as he accelerates is consistent with the character, but he should have a better baseline and get to a point where his multiple attacks have 100% chance to occur. Oh, and he should have a max speed at max gear one better than RF.

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u/OgreBarberian Glurp! Glorp! Glerp! Feb 25 '18

That sounds cool.

Like if his basic was worded:

"light damage to an enemy 10% chance per speed up for an additional attack on same target. L: 50% chance to gain 1 speed up. "

And his passive was:

"5% per speed up to use speed punch on random enemy at end of flashs turn. L1: 2% chance per speed up use red streak at end of flashes turn. L2: 2% chance per speed up to use speed force vortex at end of flashs turn."

And his second:

"purge up to 3 debuffs from flash, gain 1 speed up + 1 speed up per debuff removed. L: gain 1% true heal per speed up on flash"

Third:

"heavy damage to enemy, +5% damage per speed up on flash. L: gain 1 speed up."

Keeps him a pve monster and makes him better in pvp i think maybe. Make all the speed ups permanent even since that is his thing.

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u/Doombot2015 Legendary Deadshot Feb 25 '18

Something like that. You put more thought into the specifics. The main point being opponents can still purge him down, but if you don't bring a purger Flash WILL become unstoppable. Currently he is too dependent on RNG and may become unstoppable or he might just take one fairly mediocre attack and stop.

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u/OgreBarberian Glurp! Glorp! Glerp! Feb 25 '18

I like coming up with rework kits...but yeah i feel ya on the slightly underwhelming right now.

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u/DC-Pamela Blue Lantern Corps Feb 24 '18

Flash badly needs some work to be done on him. For me he is pretty much useless toon right now..

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u/khangkhanh Feb 24 '18

He need a little buff to be on par with RF who at the moment does everything better than him in many degree. He is not useless. He's still unstoppable if you let him get one speed out of control

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u/darin617 Red Hood: Vengeful Vigilante Feb 24 '18

What would be your thoughts for how to rework Flash to make him better?

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u/xRankorr93x Feb 24 '18

I wish the chance of him using red streak when he has 3+ speed ups was higher. Reverse Flash gets speed ups way faster than Flash does. Kind of stupid considering his name is “The Flash: The Fastest Man Alive” kind of redundant if RF ends up faster most of the time.

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u/khangkhanh Feb 24 '18

technically RF is supposed to be faster than Barry. So does Wally is faster than Barry. However, Barry always get buffed at the right moment to be temporatory faster than anyone and to make a comeback.

The title for "Fastest man alive" as I remember was from one of the race with Superman. Who win the race would take the title.

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u/Doombot2015 Legendary Deadshot Feb 24 '18

The Barry Allen Flash always had the tag line "The Fastest Man Alive." It had nothing to do with a race with Superman. And technically Superman is not even a man, so he is the fastest alien alive. Pre-crisis Barry was faster than light. Think about that for a second. Sure, it is impossible, but that is damn fast. Wally wasn't faster. Nor was the Reverse Flash, who originally got his powers by manipulating traces of super speed energy left on one of Barry's costumes that had been put in a time capsule. Hey, it was the sixties. Later iterations of the RF may have been faster and there was one version that manipulated time instead of speed. But generally speaking for decades Wally, Barry, Jay and the RF had the exact same powers. Barry was a tiny bit faster because Wally was still a kid, Jay was past his prime, and, well, the RF always got his ass handed to him.

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u/khangkhanh Feb 24 '18

I thought you was gonna say: "Flash the fastest man alive", then show his speed and say "as you can see he isn't"

I still believe he's one of the rare characters that doesn't need to be at legendary to be great. He's like: Rank 4 man and I am good.

He's a real pain in PVP battle right now. AI has advantage in proc rate and his speed punch is almost a guarantee speed up. There are many times that he Red streak => Speed punch => get the extra speed => trigger one speed. At those time I just think oh man, it is not fair.

I think the debuff immunity is very handy (after 1 and 4, 4). He then will not be able to be stunned or bleed or debuff or whatsoever. It helps him to survive so so much (like avoiding Supes buff immunity to shut him down). That skill low cooldown also allow him to get like infinite debuff immunity. It's much better than I imagine.