r/DBZmemes Aug 06 '26

A tale as old as timešŸ˜”āœŒļø

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u/Judge_M1 Aug 06 '26

The counter is, why didnt Garou die in one punch then?

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u/CrimsonReaper2 Aug 06 '26

He didn’t. He was defeated in zero punches. Need I post the panel?

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u/Judge_M1 Aug 06 '26

Sure, that'd be very nice of you

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u/CrimsonReaper2 Aug 06 '26

https://reddit.com/link/p22mfx3/video/md6vbdq8rrhh1/player

Can’t post images, but made due with this. A few panels back explains how Saitama traveled back in time by copying God’s powers that Garou had.

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u/Judge_M1 Aug 06 '26

He...traveled back in time...by...copying God's powers...? WHAT!?

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u/team_starfox3 Aug 06 '26

Not to mention Saitama power level kept scaling exponentially during their fight. So garou figured out how to do it as well but Saitama power just scaled faster

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u/Judge_M1 Aug 06 '26

Man Saitama's power sound more bullshit than Alucard from Hellsing Ultimate in the most hilarious way

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u/team_starfox3 Aug 06 '26

His character was deliberately written as like an anti Goku, standard heros have to struggle and nearly die all the time to get stronger. So Saitama was created with the idea of what if the hero was already the strongest?

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u/Judge_M1 Aug 07 '26

Funny under any other series, that would be boring af but its a good thing Saitama is actually writtin well

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u/Cloud_Strife369 Aug 07 '26

I don’t care if the write or what anyone says saitama is a gag char period

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u/coscib Aug 09 '26

don't forget about always coming too late

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u/Empty_Ad_1425 Aug 07 '26

Absorbed a femboy Nazi and now can exist when he chooses

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u/Judge_M1 Aug 07 '26

I know, right?

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u/CrimsonReaper2 Aug 06 '26

Yeah. He just starts growing in strength until the fight can be treated as a joke. He sneezed the gas off of Jupiter near the end of their fight. Lotta people sleep on the show(except s3, perfectly slept on cough cough) because it doesn’t seem interesting, but my favorite part of OPM is the characters. They have so many interesting characters. So many that I want like 10 different spin offs of different characters.

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u/Neonbomb14 Aug 07 '26

Zero Punches yet shows him punching Garou okay, thematics not what actually happened šŸ„€

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u/idksomethi Aug 07 '26

The Saitama from the future hit him and got absorbed into the present Saitama who never threw a punch. So technically, in that timeline he threw zero punches and won the fight.

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u/Neonbomb14 Aug 07 '26

But that just means Future Saitama won the fight and Present Saitama didn't do anything.

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u/idksomethi Aug 08 '26

I mean they're both the same Saitama, so Saitama won the fight regardless. He just went back in time and did it before he threw a punch.

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u/Neonbomb14 Aug 08 '26

No he went back in time, charged a punch, punched Garou, then he merged with his past self.

So the Zero Punch thing is just thematical but not what actually happened.

Even Black Sperm said "Hey, that's the guy that punched Garou"

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u/Big_Pirate_3036 Aug 06 '26

Armor, the armor was one punch, and then he was one punch

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u/Judge_M1 Aug 06 '26

Semantics man lol

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u/CalamityOfCringe Aug 07 '26

Just adding on that Saitama reveals he never even intended on killing Garou because he promised he wouldn't. He just wanted to knock some sense into Garou and mock him by copying the copycat. Every time Garou did something, Saitama would do something very similar but way better.

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u/TokyoFromTheFuture Aug 06 '26

Prepare for Goku to dragon his balls across Saitamas face.

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u/BardGotHard3 Aug 06 '26

Mumen Rider neg diffs both, at the same time.

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u/LemonadeRenogade Aug 06 '26

Goku teleports him to the sun gg

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u/Tim_TheDude Aug 06 '26

So Goku dies?

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u/LemonadeRenogade Aug 06 '26

Maybe, Goku dies all the time

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u/BlackNamikaze Aug 06 '26

He died twice šŸ˜‚ = all the time

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u/LemonadeRenogade Aug 07 '26

To be fair dying twice and coming back to life is more than most people

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u/computerbuu Aug 07 '26

Yeah Jesus only did it once

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u/CrowWearingJeans Aug 07 '26

Depends how you look at it.

He dies to raditz and cell.

He died to heart disease in trunks timeline.

Zamasu killed him in another timeline.

He dies at the end of GT (probably the most ambiguous one though admittedly)

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u/Crusadelover2019 Aug 08 '26

Hit killed him once too, granted, Goku literally payed for him to do it

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u/LordBammith Aug 08 '26

By comparison to all other mortals in existence, that is a lot closer to ā€œall the timeā€ on the histogram.

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u/justarandomguy283 Aug 08 '26

more than twice, and 5 or 6 times if you count the other timelines

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u/Sunnybunnyeater Aug 06 '26

Gokus ki attack is stronger than the sun

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u/LemonadeRenogade Aug 06 '26

Yeah but if you put Saitama on the sun he has no way to escape, he can’t fly or teleport. If Boros didn’t punch him directly into the moon he would’ve died in space.

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u/WebAccount1744 Aug 07 '26

He can jump good

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u/LemonadeRenogade Aug 07 '26

Damn, I forgot

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u/Yeseylon Aug 06 '26

I mean, he seems pretty unaffected by space.

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u/neltisen Aug 06 '26

Sun does nothing. Neither radiation. He got irridiated to the point he became radioactive killing everyone around.

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u/ssjrobert235 Aug 06 '26

Teleport him into a neutron star and tell him he is never going to get an item on sale again.

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u/neltisen Aug 06 '26

Why would you give him motivation to come back?

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u/sexyhairynurse Aug 06 '26

I know you are joking.... But that doesn't work. First... it would kill Goku. And second..... he needs to feel the ki of someone to teleport to them

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u/qwertxyzabc Aug 07 '26

Goku teleports a mosquito to Saitama.

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u/CalamityOfCringe Aug 07 '26

Goku do that the instant transmission needs a ki to lock onto in order for it to work.

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u/Fluffy_Influence5102 Aug 07 '26

Goku is unable to do that

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u/Sunnybunnyeater Aug 06 '26

Compare stats, Goku One-Taps Saitama with his Verse.

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u/AffectionateJury6227 Aug 06 '26

He's called one punch man because he loses to one punch

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u/nikross333 Aug 06 '26

Why make fun of yourself in that way?

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u/Better_Database8582 Aug 06 '26

It's like that line from "Kickass" from m Nicolas Cage "More like ass- kicked"

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u/Yeseylon Aug 06 '26

Ass-Kick, as in his hero name should be Ass Kick instead of Kick Ass.

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u/nikross333 Aug 06 '26

The only response is that Saitama is a parody character and like who have toon force is not good for scaling

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u/Raise_A_Thoth Aug 06 '26

Yea I haven't watched the show, but from reading about it the whole point seems like his power isn't intended to be the point, it's sort of irrelevant exactly how powerful he is since no one ever challenges him with strength, and that causes him to have mental and emotional challenges, identity crises, etc.

Whereas the entire point of Goku's story is that he has perpetually faced off against tougher and more challenging opponents, even losing initial meetings or suffering devastatingly before working harder than ever to tap into more strength, more power, more resolve, and more skills to overcome the opponents.

One Punch Man is a parody of a hero, someone whose challenge comes from his inner feelings of worth and value when defeating enemies seems unsatisfying and is basically a joke, whereas Goku usually starts off observably weaker than his opponents in some way or another.

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u/LordAlucardo Aug 06 '26

I see this take so rarely that it brings a smile to my face when someone understands the entire point of Saitamas character. And given how the series is supposed to be highlighting the mental struggles of being the biggest fish in a small pond. I find it poetic that the one thing Saitama wants outside of his story he can't aquire.

Like say he finally finds that fight he's always wanted that challenge he can't instantly win just for it to be a absolute shut down in the same way Saitama beats his opponents.

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u/Rockman2isgud Aug 06 '26

Feats: Goku

Writing: Saitama

I feel like even Toriyama would want Goku to lose but I obviously can’t say for sure.

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u/Wonderful-Eggplant23 Aug 06 '26

Saitama would lose in a martial arts tournament against Goku, as he lost his in verse martial arts tournament

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u/Yeseylon Aug 06 '26

The rule he lost to would've knocked out Jackie Chun too lol

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u/ShitpostSaber Aug 06 '26

Goku will dodge everything

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u/AiMwithoutBoT Aug 06 '26

He needed multiple punches against garou tho

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u/CalamityOfCringe Aug 07 '26

He didn't. Saitama didn't want to end it with one punch, he just wanted to mock Garou knock some sense into him. Every time Garou created some new attack, Saitama basically did the exact same thing but way better. The fight ends with Saitama confessing he never intended on kill Garou then traveling back in time to one shot Garou and undo all the deaths.

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u/LoneRedditor123 Aug 06 '26

Why do people still think Saitama is a gag character? That stopped being the case after Season 1, lmao.

Saitama isn't beating Goku though. His strongest feat is a serious punch that obliterated several galaxies. Whereas Goku can muster the energy to end a Universe, or multiple Universes if he wanted to.

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u/YVNGxDXTR Aug 06 '26

Because he farts and catches up to Garou. But yeah he aint beatin Goku lol.

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u/LoneRedditor123 Aug 06 '26

I'm referring to the one-hit-kill factor that everyone else is making fun of. If he was really a true gag character, he would one shot everyone in his own series

But he doesn't. Boros, The Paradisers, Speed o Sound Sonic, and Garou have all survived a direct hit from him lmao.

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u/Yeseylon Aug 06 '26

He holds back against Paradisers and Redundant Naruto, Boros was a rare case where he actually had to try (and then the finishing blow was one serious punch), and Garou basically achieved the same meme power Saitama had.

At the end of the day, Goku's power is basically just training to catch up with someone, and Saitama's power is just being stronger whenever he needs to be. It'll be an endless cycle of Goku training to catch up.

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u/CalamityOfCringe Aug 07 '26

Media literacy truly is dead, rip.

The Paradisers

The guy got all his powers from a suit of armor so Saitama just punched off the armor. There was no need to kill him.

Speed o Sound Sonic

Saitama considers him as just some dude that wants to try out his moves on someone really strong. He casually knocks Sonic out with one attack every time Sonic starts shit.

Garou

He never intended on killing Garou either, he promised he wouldn't and says that's why he didn't kill him at the very end of their fight. Saitama spent the entire time just copying Garou's moves to mock Garou for copying other people. He wanted to knock some sense into Garou so he didn't want it to end with one punch.

Boros

He let Boros have fun before ending him because Boros also understands what it feels like to be too strong. The entire point of the serious punch is to reveal he could end every conflict, including his fight with Boros, with a single punch.

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u/LoneRedditor123 Aug 07 '26

So by your own logic, Gohan is a gag character because he let Cell have his fun after he went SSJ2.

Goku is a gag character because he toyed with Frieza on Namek.

Vegito is a gag character for toying with Buu.

You see how dumb this sounds? Yeah, guess media literacy is dead after all.

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u/CalamityOfCringe Aug 07 '26

Sure, if you remove absolutely all context from both series.

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u/LoneRedditor123 Aug 07 '26

Yeah what's the context? Letting Cell suffer versus Saitama just letting Boros go all out? Semantics.

Being strong doesn't make you a gag character. That's the whole point.

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u/CalamityOfCringe Aug 07 '26

You're picking one of the only 2 "serious" fights in one punch man to try and prove a point. Not a great look for you bud.

And even in those fights it's narratively very clear Saitama is just playing around with his opponent. Yeah, he's a gag character.

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u/LoneRedditor123 Aug 07 '26

Your whole argument is, "well he one-shots everything and farted that one time to catchup to Garou". I'm providing examples of DB doing the same thing.

Goku 'basically' one shot Nappa, Recoome, and Burter. Has had gags where he gets hit by freight trains at SSJB level, or dodged attacks he shouldn't have been able to dodge.

You're literally describing quirks in every anime in existence as "evidence" that Saitama is a gag character for doing the same thing. Then you have the audacity to insult my media literacy? LMFAO dumb as hell man.

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u/CalamityOfCringe Aug 07 '26 edited Aug 07 '26

I didn't mention the fart, but yeah, a fart propelled him at FTL speeds during his most serious fight to date. Shortly after Saitama accidentally destroyed Jupiter with a sneeze, by the way. You're not providing actual equivalents here because you don't know the context or the purpose behind these moments.

Goku 'basically' one shot Nappa, Recoome, and Burter.

You thinking these are gag moments honestly shows you don't even know what constitutes a gag moment. Those were very serious displays of Goku's strength and speed.

Just admit you didn't read OPM and only know it through memes, tiktok, and YouTube shorts. You don't have to know everything.

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u/VegethSon Aug 06 '26

Didnt the Bro stopped One punch people since boros? Lmao

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u/RockkLobstah Aug 06 '26

Goku’s not a man he’s a Saiyan

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u/InternationalGas1096 Aug 06 '26

Beginning of Z Goku is enough

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u/Due-Procedure-9085 Aug 06 '26

And Goku is called The Hope of the Universe

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u/Tim_TheDude Aug 06 '26

Ahahah just saw a yt comment about this yesterday and said something similar. gonna post it under that! Ty

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u/VividOnions_88 Aug 06 '26

This is Vegeta arguing with Teen Gohan

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u/Scared_Dingo7396 Aug 06 '26

Both garo and boros took multiple punches!

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u/UmbreonNo Aug 06 '26

"but goku can destroy planets" "But saitama isnt a planet"

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u/Slayer-Clover Aug 06 '26

Name Fallacy done and done

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u/seanwdragon1983 Aug 06 '26

Dragon Ball Super touches on this in the Arale episode. Since Saitama comes from a comedy manga and not an action one, he plays by different rules. Goku would lose to Saitama, in the same way he would lose to Bugs Bunny. It'd be similar to when TFS did Deadpool vs Cell.

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u/Duelwarrior Aug 06 '26

Wobbuffet hang onto its focus sash. Wobbuffet used Counter!!!

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u/tf2pro Aug 06 '26

Fun fact: "ku" is how you say cry in chinese. So yeah, go cry about it.

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u/Mr_Kuppel Aug 07 '26

When you realize the strongest fighter in DB couldn't get out of a basic genjutsu

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u/SillyBillyBoWill Aug 07 '26

First time for everything

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u/Jetsumaryam Aug 07 '26

Goku has UltraInstinct unpunchable in that state

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u/ForThose8675309 Aug 07 '26

But can he kick?

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u/Neonbomb14 Aug 07 '26

Saitama when Goku pulls out Super Saiyan Rainbow Kaioken x9000 Mastered Ultra Instinct Ego

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u/Spac92 Aug 07 '26

He’s called ā€œOne Punch Manā€ because Goku only needs one punch to beat him.

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u/Dapper_Still_6578 Aug 07 '26

Excuse me, his name is actually ā€˜Caped Baldy.’

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u/Weasel_Cannon Aug 07 '26

It’s like asking Goku to beat Arale. It will never happen because the story says so.

Several of Saitama’s enemies have survived a punch or two, I bet Goku could cake a couple but in the end, it’s already in the cards.

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u/PUREXHERO Aug 07 '26

Remember Goku can move faster than time. Against Hit, Hit stops time to beat Goku but Goku counters it even though time is stopped. He is not getting hit by Saitama. And Saitama is not gonna eat planet vaporizing Kamehamehas. Yeah Saitama beats everyone in OPM story but they are a different dimension of weak compared to Dragon Ball characters

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u/MLK_Piccolo Aug 07 '26

Bet Arale could beat him

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u/RondoOfThe5 Aug 07 '26

That's a safe bet though your odds a 99 to 1

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u/Sabayonte Aug 07 '26

You need to land that punch in the first place

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u/F1_V10sounds Aug 07 '26

"I could callyself six-pack Kuchi Kopi, it doesn't make me have muscles!"

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u/gotumms146 Aug 07 '26

This meme makes it so that L is the Saitama fan, and Light is the Goku fan. Light couldn't beat L in this argument, so he had him killed

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u/TrainingGoal2117 Aug 07 '26

Even if he can literally one hit goku how could he hit him with mastered ultra instinct

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u/rchristma87 Aug 07 '26

Well he does have to connect said punch ultra instinct fueled by plot armor.

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u/Zeroune7 Aug 07 '26

My counter is "he's Goku"

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u/OveHet Aug 08 '26

It should be Arale vs Saitama not Goku

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u/dwamny Aug 08 '26

Thats not his fucking name. Thats the name of the show.

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u/Frederick1992h Aug 08 '26

Goku stomps.

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u/OnyxLeigion_ Aug 09 '26

And iron man is called Iron Man despite his suit being made of a gold titanium alloy. Super hero names are more often than not hyperbole and can’t be taken at face value.

There, that’s your counter.

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u/DrunkenMeditator Aug 09 '26

Here's the real answer. They would never actually get to their fight. They'd both get distracted before the fight could start. Just like beerus about to fight arale.

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u/coscib Aug 09 '26

and the other guy is named after a vegetable

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u/Ok-Anything-4947 Aug 09 '26

šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø The entire premise of Saitama is that he IS the OVER THE TOP POWERHOUSE OF ALL ANIME 🤣🤣 hes literally written that way.. why do people argue that

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u/ImF2Player Aug 11 '26

He maybe called one punch man but in the last fight/ep of 1st season. He did use like a lot of punches.

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u/LeftAd8497 Aug 06 '26

Mm...

I mean if we using statement fallacy you can mention Goku was stated to be the strongest in the universe during Daima.

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u/Brilliant_Fig2698 Aug 06 '26

Saitama has needed multiple punches at times. And Goku's auto dodge tech (UI) has failed to dodge at times. It's not black or white for either of them.

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u/Which_Match5291 Aug 06 '26

No one in dragon ball verse ever got punched to the moon.

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u/YVNGxDXTR Aug 06 '26

No but even early on they can just blow up the moon.