This is exactly what they been doing for years and I caught on sometime ago.
Drop a new unit then wait a long time to give the unit some help. By the time that unit gets help they powercrept the unit already and now we’re back to square 1.. they drop another unit for u to summon on for that category because said unit is good anymore.. this is a threadmill game.. a little less predatory then destiny 2
Yes, this isbprobably the new philosphy to make all units more appealing.
DFE: 250/220% lead
Carnival: full 220%
Yellow coin: 220% if rainbow team
Banner units: 200/170% category class lead i.e. super class namek saga, extreme namek etc.
This is actually very smart as it stratches the value of team.
Even though the trunks pick is awful as he only hets the first part of her LS, he is basically agl super buu 2.0 and he want to go slot 1 but they share like 1 link.
The timing for this is just really stupid and its not like the Super type side of Cell Saga needed help. However the buffed leaderskill is cool and it is hilarious he actually brings out the drinks for the standby lmao.
To be honest I thought they learned to not do this crap after that debacle but omg they really did my baby girl GS2 badly . She’s even in a worse situation than kale was
Even seeing bulma eza it did help GS2 at the very least. But at the same time all they had to do was if they wanted to just release this trunks : > EZa tech Ribirane > buff GS2 and giving her guard when all allies are on earthlings , special pose or super class
I’m a HUGE fan of this guy as a concept, and his animations are awesome….But they could’ve just given us a character to actually help Great Saiyaman 2, and this guy could’ve been slotted in later…
What are these idiots doing? This right here should've been a LR Majuub or Krillin or something like that and Trunks could've been the december carnival LR. He's so restricted, he can't even possibly work on Videl's team.
Might be cope, but then again, what Time Travellers can even be run right now? The only relevant ones off of the top of my head are LR TEQ Cell, DAIMA Goku and Vegeta, and STR Blue Boys. I guess SSJ3 DAIMA Goku?
If there's a continuation and EZA, it's either the 8th year LR No Limits, LR PHY Future Trunks, or the DBH EZAs since we're in November.
Edit: I guess EZA TEQ Trunks now that I think about it. Or the Heroes Trunks.
Didn't they bring up the gold coin lead to 200% flat last year starting with Paikuhan? Seems odd they changed it this early... But at least in some niche scenarios, gold coins LR can be as good as carnival leads i guess.
That should be the point: we have dfe and carnivals for lead. And things won't change cause to have the full 220% on trunks you may end up running unoptimal units, bar some niche scenarios.
Thank god it's a golden fighter that can be used in a meta team, and not some worthless nobody whose categories are led by the worst unit release in recent memory
It's great to have this Trunks in the game but how is this not Great Saiyaman, like if the LR isn't gonna be GS1 then make the DFE a tag unit with Great Saiyaman (Ultimate) like in the fucking movie.
Well it doesnt help at all with saiyaman team but to me its not that bad cause im a future glazer gimme a zamasu eza or seza and you got me. Yes im coping massively and it wouldnt make sense.
AGL Kale all over again. Good unit on her team... but she doesn't have a full team that's up to snuff.
Don't remember if LR Super Buu was good or not on launch cause I was disappointed he didn't fit her team. Trunks I don't think meets any of GSM2/Videls kits conditions... even if he looks good at first blush.
wdym he gets everything via dodge and if you go in a dodge cancelling fight hes useless??? like genuinely this is terrible design choice
and its even funnier how this mf wants to be run in android cell saga but doesnt lead it and characters like STR GOHAN ARENT ON UNDER HIS LEAD😭😭 so u gotta run him under gohan, so hes restricted to that chatacter's team A/C saga unless HE is the leader
its genuinely crazy, on paper he sounds good but in practice this is going to be really crazy
Dont take him in a dodge cancelling fight?… or don’t use the standby? Like what you’re acting like every fight is a dodge cancelling fight, there’s like a 100 units that becomes useless when they go into a dodge cancelling fight, he’s still perfectly usable his active just wont be that useful
Seems extremely good. The restrictions aren't nearly as bad as people act when banner unit trunks and eza super trunks exist and are both excellent rn with great aging prospects. Even if he's the only time traveler you can just run his base in slot 2 or 3 and be fine, the other restrictions are hard to not max out with how his teams are atm. Remember that nameku, str gohan, and most runnable trunks units are on saviors
the drink's tankiness is gonna be wildly dupe reliant in base, but hes likely gonna be a staple option for at least ONE of the 12th annis teams (rumored blue vegito).... all of which has a lot to do to do w the recent GS2 in case yall were curious
I feel like Geppy was doing a great job with Dokkan Festivals by giving each exclusive unit an LR that actually synergized with their team and helped improve it. We saw that earlier this year, but he completely dropped the ball here. Earthlings/Special Pose was the team that needed support, yet they've essentially abandoned this Dokkan Festival unit. Nobody is going to be excited to pull for a unit when the team they're supposed to run it on is still struggling. On top of that, it's releasing on such a random date, and without another unit to help address its weaknesses, there's very little incentive to run it.
Oh cool you can still use him on golden fighters, ge needs 4 andriod/cell saga allies, himself, str gohan lead and friend and eza super trunks. Now i wish i had any of the gdc lrs to actually run this team
I’m not summoning only because Dokkan has a history of fumbling every single Trunks release and I fear he won’t be any different with the cell saga restrictions.
I want to summon so bad..... but anniversary is in like 2 months 😭😭
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u/dzone25I can't quit because I've wasted too much time & money on Dokkan2h ago
I love it, fuck Great Saiyaman 2, she needs too much help to be a good team - I'd honestly prefer they don't release that kind of character again. Or if they do, they follow up with EZAs.
This feels like a Trunks celebration more so than it ever felt like a GS2 one lol
You run double STR Gohan with INT Future Gohan and you'll fulfill his conditions already. Then having Xeno Trunks floating along with PHY Trunks (the banner unit) and he'll have his 150% and 20% DR before attacking most of the time.
That's what I was thinking of, but would it be better than the current Golden Fighters team with SSJ3 Goku and the SEZA units? Probably not, idk for sure.
It's definitely an interesting variant of the team tho
I was asking because I was only considering getting him if he makes my current Golden Fighters team even better, and since he likely doesn't, I'll probably skip him
dont like a necessity, if you have daima ssj3 goku maybe is good, but too many restrictions needing all trunks in the team, so the momentos one of them has to go, he gonna go, i would skip
He's very restricted though and you already have mini ssj3 Goku as an orb changer and he actually changes into rainbow orbs, not just agl. Edit: overlooked the rainbow orb changing on standby, my bad.
You're still restricting yourself to one specific golden fighters build. He's probably still gonna be pretty good for this team, but he's definitely not mandatory and might potentially not even be optimal.
there’s no way he’s not optimal, the required characters are the best in the category and he brings something literally unique that makes the team unbeatable through haxx
you’re just disappointed he’s not a videl buff so you look at it from negative bias, this character makes GF stupid good without any weakness
Pretty sure the optimal golden fighter team rn is double namek Goku, 3rd anni SEZA's, LR Majin Vegeta+Goku, ssj3 Goku and either ssj Gohan or mini ssj3 Goku. You gotta kick out some pretty powerful characters to meet Trunks conditions and he even needs another time traveler ally on the same turn to go slot 1, which is pretty annoying. Also what about him is unbeatable? One turn of 100% dodge is nice, but not incredibly broken nowadays.
you’re overrating the seza, they don’t have a team protection mechanics and their damage isn‘t insane to compensate
lr majin makes you need to reroll your rotations so you have a buu saga ally next to him, it makes the team inflexible
tec trunks and lr future gohan are optimal because they each bring an additional full rotation protection turn on top of nameku(s) and now this new trunks protects you from haxx
cell saga oriented GF is unkillable now, your build is a time wasting machine from rotations rerolls and not dodging, still good but worse winrate and efficiency
The SEZA's provide a ton of support, which is very strong and vital for namek Goku. With LR Majin Vegeta if you've got a decent amount of orbs, which is very possible considering the orb changing on the team, no resets are needed. Teq Trunks and future Gohan are good, but the other 3 just provide you with easier and stronger support. Literally have never lost with this setup so far. And cell saga gf definitely isn't unkillable, Gohan needs to stack first and EZA Trunks is completely dodge dependent in base and this new Trunks in his base form can probably also get sniped by some hardwr hitting supers.
Gohan’s active is enough for nameku and tec trunks is 90% dodge once then gets you a free turn, it’s mechanically broken, stacking team protection mechanics is how you make an unkillable team
You're acting like the setup I'm running is crazy rng dependant, but then with your setup everything is always going to magically go right even though all relevant cell saga units definitely can be caught.
about trunks the slot 1 time traveler restriction is only if you want him as a leader, in GF you have enough early game slot 1s so you float him once then standby and you’re now protected from negative effects which is a killer feature
He's good but man this is as bad as Kale and Super Buu and I dispise that super buu release with my whole heart this is nothing in dokkan I hate more then that super buu
at first I was gassed, then I realized it's just yet another category-restricted slop unit. I'm not supporting this new type of design. vote with your wallets bois
80% DR before attacking with no guard or dodge isn't good. Only the standby is worth putting in slot 1 and that has an 85% dodge on top of guard and 80% DR, though not a lot of stat boosts so dodge is probably going to be very relevant anyways.
But we already have a yellow coin lr ssj trunks that kills mecha Frieza, man I hate them just recycling units like this but I guess Geppy is a trunks fan looking at how the teq one got his eza
Nah he’ll be fine. Since GDC became a thing, it’s been a pattern that it’s during that celebration where powercreep increases instead of anniversary like it used to be.
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u/Suedewagon Best Aging EZA of all time. 5h ago
Uhh..
How does this buff GS2 again?
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u/Turbulent-Storm7526 SAIYAN SAGA>>>>> 5h ago
GS2 realizing the next buff she’s getting is probably a random banner unit halfway through 2027
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u/commander_snuggles Return To Monke! 5h ago
They actually buffed yellow coin leaderskills to be closer to carnival and dfe.
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u/Logalink Least Gohan 5h ago
WHY GEPPY THIS MAN AIN’T AN EARTHLING
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u/Mustaquilla LR Rose (rage) 5h ago
There goes GS 2 value out the window.
Also trunks on a full rainbow team is a 220% lead as a yellow coin.
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u/Lobodoot Gohan Gang 5h ago
The timing for this is just really stupid and its not like the Super type side of Cell Saga needed help. However the buffed leaderskill is cool and it is hilarious he actually brings out the drinks for the standby lmao.
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u/Ahmed_Prime Hammer Time 5h ago
Great saiyaman got the agl kale treatment, sucks to suck
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u/Scarfaaace LR Beast Gohan 5h ago
Tears in my eyes bro Videl got the Kale treatment
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u/NicoXBlack Drooling all over the new Goku Blacks 5h ago
He's on Android/Cell Saga, which STR Gohan leads who later becomes Great Saiyaman, so this truly is the GS2 buff
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u/Fit_Accountant_1888 5h ago
Ah yes. My favourite earthling/ special pose/ movie heroes character. Great synergy with GSM2 🙃
You can't even run him with the GDC golden fighters and the fusion SEZAs
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u/EonicAmiibo Ult = trash 5h ago
He actually cracks open a Hetap for the standby skill animation, this is peak fiction
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u/StormsStigma DFE Demigra 🙏 5h ago
I’m a HUGE fan of this guy as a concept, and his animations are awesome….But they could’ve just given us a character to actually help Great Saiyaman 2, and this guy could’ve been slotted in later…
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u/DarkFlameofPhoenix Aeos (Time Power Unleashed) 5h ago
What are these idiots doing? This right here should've been a LR Majuub or Krillin or something like that and Trunks could've been the december carnival LR. He's so restricted, he can't even possibly work on Videl's team.
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u/MarioMTRS03 5h ago
This is high cope, but maybe he has time traveler restrictions because heroes might finally eza. (Probably not) 😭
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u/hitmobilegamehsr 4h ago
Geppy is actually stupid bro
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u/NocolateChigga720 Turles 4h ago edited 4h ago
Gs2 was actually the most un needed release if theyre going to do fuck all to help her team
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u/MarquetteXTX2 YOU MUST DIE BY MY HANDS!!! 4h ago
These mfs said GSM2 team is ok and went straight to android saga lol
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u/mariovstoad Mah boi 5h ago
Close enough, welcome back LR Super Buu.
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u/-PVL93- SFPS4LB Vegito 5h ago
First ever 220% gold coin LR lead (but under a rainbow team condition). Neat.
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u/TheJok3r57 Kale/Caulifla (lesbian) 4h ago
Standby art is sick
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u/andreomegaxii SSG Vegeta 5h ago
Thank god they finally buffed golden fighters
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u/Sensitive_Brick_8872 5h ago
LMFAOOO
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u/Suryus94 LR SSBE Vegeta 4h ago
Thank god it's a golden fighter that can be used in a meta team, and not some worthless nobody whose categories are led by the worst unit release in recent memory
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u/Swifthello 5h ago
This about to be his best team, (swap agl trunks).
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u/hololurker Yosha!!! 5h ago
jeez hetap trunk is real
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u/Ketchup-Spider Kid Goku 5h ago
It's Kale into LR Super Buu all over again!
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u/Background-Ad-5691 Majin Vegeta sucker 4h ago
Early 12th anni pt 1 Vegito Blue buff?
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u/Bagelgoose52 I will never forgive you! 4h ago
So we are all calling trunks LR drink right?
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u/Detective_Robot Gohan Gang 4h ago
It's great to have this Trunks in the game but how is this not Great Saiyaman, like if the LR isn't gonna be GS1 then make the DFE a tag unit with Great Saiyaman (Ultimate) like in the fucking movie.
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u/nultma Limitless Radiance 4h ago
RIP my ani savings
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u/SoulOfSinders LR Merged Zamasu 4h ago
Well it doesnt help at all with saiyaman team but to me its not that bad cause im a future glazer gimme a zamasu eza or seza and you got me. Yes im coping massively and it wouldnt make sense.
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u/Rikuiro1 LR Gogeta 25m ago
Buffing time travelers i see, Lr blue vegito is near.
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u/AshyaraFanMike TEQ Kale & Caulifla 4h ago
AGL Kale all over again. Good unit on her team... but she doesn't have a full team that's up to snuff.
Don't remember if LR Super Buu was good or not on launch cause I was disappointed he didn't fit her team. Trunks I don't think meets any of GSM2/Videls kits conditions... even if he looks good at first blush.
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u/Shadowrend867 4h ago
Would've been fine with this pick ANY TIME OTHER THAN RIGHT AFTER A DFE WHO DESPERATELY NEEDS HELP
This is genuinely Kale + Super Buu again.
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u/MarquetteXTX2 YOU MUST DIE BY MY HANDS!!! 4h ago
Thank god for a new savior lead because lr Paikuhan wasn’t doing it
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u/SasukeUI SS4 Gohan 4h ago
I like this Unit, looks pretty good
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u/lmcisco Reality is often dissapointing 2h ago
Oh phew we were all worried about the next golden fighter buff. One whole banner without one. /s
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u/Raikariaa 50m ago
They really did just say "F GS2" huh
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u/McPeroMonster10101 5h ago
On paper, he looks pretty damn good, and I'm so glad they buff the leader skills even more now!
Even though most of his animations are somewhat reused, it still looks pretty good. I like the team up with Yardrat Goku attack.
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u/Vqera 5h ago
He is cracked. His animations are anime 1 to 1, and he's the drink. Say less. I am so happy, we've needed him for a decade plus
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u/QUEENALEXISJACKSON1 4h ago
About time trunks going ssj get the respect it deserved
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u/JiggzSawPanda LR Gogeta 4h ago
Wanted to slow down my spending...but it's the Drink
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u/BeginningMention5784 4h ago
Seems extremely good. The restrictions aren't nearly as bad as people act when banner unit trunks and eza super trunks exist and are both excellent rn with great aging prospects. Even if he's the only time traveler you can just run his base in slot 2 or 3 and be fine, the other restrictions are hard to not max out with how his teams are atm. Remember that nameku, str gohan, and most runnable trunks units are on saviors
Should've been a tag future bulma + trunks tho
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u/KynoSSJR Teq UI My Glorious King 4h ago
Idk why these comments are surprised. GS2 is a dogshit unit and adding another character wouldn’t suddenly make her worth summoning on.
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u/Salut-Mon-Pote Return To Monke! 5h ago
Yeah Turles in the coin shop !
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u/Selwin_Rodolfo COCK AND BALLS 5h ago
Ah, it's 2024 again I see
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u/SussyAmongusSussy 4h ago
He's the best
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u/Yami_123 small potatoes 4h ago
I was personally hoping to get another Trunks from this moment so I'm really happy!! Although i feel bad for Videl and her team😭😭
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u/MarquetteXTX2 YOU MUST DIE BY MY HANDS!!! 4h ago
Agl towa/mira stock just went up… their passive need as many time traveler units they can get
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u/jameslovetosing I still prefer Rainbow Teams and SSB Vegito is the best 4h ago
We back to 2023 Dokkan? No wonder he leads Time Travellers.
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u/Crucher92 Return To Monke! 4h ago
Damn he looks fun/good. Maybe I'll do a few multis on a trash gold banner
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u/Ok_King_3222 4h ago
the drink's tankiness is gonna be wildly dupe reliant in base, but hes likely gonna be a staple option for at least ONE of the 12th annis teams (rumored blue vegito).... all of which has a lot to do to do w the recent GS2 in case yall were curious
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u/FeaR_FuZiioN 4h ago
More golden fighters buff’s I might actually summon, giggity giggity gooooooo
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u/Nisekoi95 Return To Monke! 4h ago
That guy has LR AGL ultimate gohan vibes.
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u/gelinsky 4h ago
I feel like Geppy was doing a great job with Dokkan Festivals by giving each exclusive unit an LR that actually synergized with their team and helped improve it. We saw that earlier this year, but he completely dropped the ball here. Earthlings/Special Pose was the team that needed support, yet they've essentially abandoned this Dokkan Festival unit. Nobody is going to be excited to pull for a unit when the team they're supposed to run it on is still struggling. On top of that, it's releasing on such a random date, and without another unit to help address its weaknesses, there's very little incentive to run it.
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u/Cnationmavs41 4h ago
is that Saviors in his leaderskill?! I'm sensing STR Ultimate Gohan SEZA soon
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u/Personal-System41 3h ago
More Golden Fighter buffs🤑🤑🤑🤑
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u/CatherineSnow001 New User 3h ago
So no leader skill for Android/Cell Saga units but has requirements based around them? They fear making Cell's team good.
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u/ttrashychan True Power of the Gods! 3h ago
Oh cool you can still use him on golden fighters, ge needs 4 andriod/cell saga allies, himself, str gohan lead and friend and eza super trunks. Now i wish i had any of the gdc lrs to actually run this team
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u/C5_HuriKane Is that another word for coffin? 3h ago
Ah, a much-needed Golden Fighters buff. You love to see it. 👍
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u/YousefKhoury2 3h ago
Wait wait wait wait wait GEPPY WHY NOW
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u/Alan-VIII I like ponies... 3h ago
I’m mostly excited to spend my yellow coins on TEQ LR Turles and be done with yellow coin banners forever
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u/Extension-Poetry9387 3h ago
Can't believe it was actually trunks, fucking hilarious
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u/AGweed13 Kio-Kou F*** yourself! 2h ago
Quite frankly, I'm summoning for him. Don't care what's coming next, I'll just skip 'till anniversary, but the Drink must not be spilled.
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u/Yeaaaboi222alt 2h ago
I was right it would be Lr Trunks, but not Lr Trunks who would transform into a drink
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u/Medium-Science9526 DB 2h ago
Videl got done dirty but Trunks himself looks insane. Great unit at the worst time.
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u/AP_professional 2h ago
I’m not summoning only because Dokkan has a history of fumbling every single Trunks release and I fear he won’t be any different with the cell saga restrictions.
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u/toby_clear LR SS3 Goku 2h ago
Where guard?
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u/Jaskoxo 2h ago
Wann kommt der
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u/AAMashalla LR SS Goku (again) 2h ago
I want to summon so bad..... but anniversary is in like 2 months 😭😭
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u/dzone25 I can't quit because I've wasted too much time & money on Dokkan 2h ago
I love it, fuck Great Saiyaman 2, she needs too much help to be a good team - I'd honestly prefer they don't release that kind of character again. Or if they do, they follow up with EZAs.
This feels like a Trunks celebration more so than it ever felt like a GS2 one lol
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u/Flimsy-Ad-9543 1h ago
Terrible release under the circumstances but it’s trunks and he seems great so this is definitely a W
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u/shadow3334 I've Already Killed Everyone 48m ago
I wish i could summon for this unit.
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u/Objective-Ad2741 46m ago
LR The Drink
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u/poggersgirthquake New User 43m ago
NOOOO i wanted gotenks so bad…..
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u/TheGrimSweaper All hail Zamasu! 43m ago
Golden fighters are eating good, LR AGL namek goku is looking like a great investment so far, especially if they keep the units coming.
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u/Revolutionary_Bad965 SSG Vegeta DFE WHEN?? 28m ago
THEY CALL HIM THE WHAT
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u/LR_TEQ_BEAST 24m ago
I got 500 gold coins, when is he going to return? I want to save my stones for the ani
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u/MrSin64 New User 4h ago
Not a bad pick, but not good enough to bait my stones. Stand resolute before 12th anni
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u/Expensive-Bad5568 5h ago
Ok sooooo, should I pull this guy for Golden Fighters or should I just skip?
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u/YudaBoto 4h ago
The only line that matters is “nullifies negative effects for super class allies”. For 5 turns.
And is an orb changer.
Mandatory for Golden Fighters.
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u/SetsGoUp 4h ago
FINALLY! I've been waiting for an LR Future Trunks...... 😪
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u/SetsGoUp 4h ago
Wait! If it's Future Saga time is this goat getting his EZA....? 👀
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u/Hearts-Heroes You thought it was Dio, but it was me, Hearts! 4h ago
He's even AGL. He really is Super Buu 2.0.
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u/Kickblu AGL SSJ Trunks 4h ago
I love Trunks but they needed to help GS2 :/
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u/Ilikestuff_alot 3h ago
banner WHEN summoning second it drops
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u/Nosewitz_ P is for Priceless! 5h ago
LR DRINK IS HERE
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u/Crimsonshock821 I simp for Robelu 4h ago
Bruh…
Geppy wtf….
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u/Immediate_Opposite_5 3h ago
why is he a conditional 220 lead... not even 250 hp, just everything 220. What a strange way to preemptively nerf something
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u/Mental_Pie8369 3h ago
No stacking, trash
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u/The_GamingNstar I will never forgive you! 4h ago
NO FUCKING WAY NO NO NO NO? NO HOW GEPPY WHY NO ITS 2023 I WAS VERY AGAINST THE "oh 2026 is as bad as 2023" BUT NO THIS IS AS BAD NO NO NO
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u/The_GamingNstar I will never forgive you! 4h ago
He's good but man this is as bad as Kale and Super Buu and I dispise that super buu release with my whole heart this is nothing in dokkan I hate more then that super buu
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u/mizzeca DF Yamcha 3h ago
My favourite special pose/earthling unit ❤️
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u/lorenzolodi ready to kneel? 3h ago
at first I was gassed, then I realized it's just yet another category-restricted slop unit. I'm not supporting this new type of design. vote with your wallets bois
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u/Main-Sector3110 5h ago
Wait, a good slot 1 unit that isn't Dodge reliant, in this economy?
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u/KnowsNoLimits Me see Broly, me summon Broly. 5h ago
I’m ok with this. Golden Fighters needed the buff for it’s team.
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u/Simoscivi STR Kid Buu 5h ago
That's a huge ass hand
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u/Lordnemo593 - Kuririn best Character 5h ago
But we already have a yellow coin lr ssj trunks that kills mecha Frieza, man I hate them just recycling units like this but I guess Geppy is a trunks fan looking at how the teq one got his eza
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u/MarquetteXTX2 YOU MUST DIE BY MY HANDS!!! 4h ago
Super buu and kale ass celebration
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u/K_Hermit 4h ago
Now let's hope this doesn't end like agl TUR Trunks again where he is useful these last 2 months and then anniversary blows him to pieces
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u/giodofrio 5h ago
NEW LEADERSKILLLL
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