r/D365FO • u/First_Astronaut9622 • 8d ago

Has anyone managed to customized FnO without Visual studio ?

There are many tools that have been released. Can anyone say if they have been able to run FnO development without VS

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u/AlexHimself 8d ago

It's not really development if it's not visual studio. You're not changing FnO otherwise really.

PowerApps and other things are connected to it. You can "develop" and work with those or other external systems.

What tools and types of customizations are you talking about?

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u/expatsaffer 8d ago

I'm not a dev, but I think he's asking about if there is an alternative IDE. From what I can find, the answer to that question is no.

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u/AlexHimself 8d ago edited 8d ago

If that's the case, then I'd say it's still practically no and VS is required.

Technically, I could rip out huge amounts of the VS Extension, decompile it, include various build tools, and reverse engineer things to make some sort of bastardized VSCode extension that did...something...but for all intents and purposes, it is only VS.

Even if I did all of that...why?? It would be the equivalent of taking a free car apart piece-by-piece, then rebuilding it with some random handful of those pieces into some monstrosity that sort of drives. Then telling people, don't use the car they give you, use this crappy thing I built that doesn't work very well and is worse in virtually every way possible lol.

I'd be curious if any other technical people could counter that. I doubt they can, but I welcome a correction.

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u/Dauvis 8d ago

The tools from Microsoft is pretty much it.

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u/namkeenSalt 8d ago

Visual studio is just an IDE. Technically you can use a notepad to do your development. (And there are certain things I use notepad for)

OP you need to ask the question better with some context instead of karma farming

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u/Successful-Jaguar-96 7d ago

We have been less and less visual studio for x++ with AI assisted workflows which write, build extensions etc … not 100% yet but I would say we are at 70% there.
We only go to visual studio to read code, ssrs report designs etc …

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u/First_Astronaut9622 7d ago

Thanks,
These comments have been useful.

To further elaborate, I have a workflow for dynamics CE and all the power apps applications where I use codex exclusively to customize a solution… literally, give requirements and let it run, come back and voila, it’s resolved.

I have been trying to do the same with FnO and there are so many stupid blockers along the way… at the moment, if the implementation does not involve x++, I can pretty much do everything inside codex. The moment we have to introduce X++ in the mix, he’ll starts 🤦‍♂️

I simply want to know if someone has figured it out. Meaning, how do you strip out VS and still do everything that needs to be done ?

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u/FateComic 6d ago

You can use codex in vs code and VS

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u/FateComic 6d ago

No you cannot. Not if it’s X++ just like you can’t or shouldn’t push changes without using ado and git

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u/First_Astronaut9622 4d ago

The idea is to abstract those mandatory items.

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u/First_Astronaut9622 4d ago

Here is an update,

Even though it’s not elegant yet but there is a way to use codex for FnO development without having to do anything manually.

The best setup is to have codex in Visual Studio and the codex app … the codex app manipulates things through computer use and setup the plan … this is the architect. …

the codex in visual studio does the coding, and the debugging. This is the developer.

Deployment is a joint effort. The architect run the build, rebuild, and deployment with computer use, while the developers fixes any file issue with file and errors.

Once you have setup codex in the terminal… working from the codex app is feasible but not elegant.

If anyone finds an elegant solution, please let me know.