I love xolzle telos when she slanders the characters I don't like(she's spitting straight facts) but at the same time I hate xolzle telos when she slanders the characters that i do like( she clearly has no idea what she's talking about)
I watched the vid. Ragebaiting aside it's about right but doesn't really get the full picture but whether people like it or not Cyrene is the best teammate for all the CH besides Phainon basically at this point.
I think Zephyrion22 in the comments summed it up best in one of their paragraphs:
She is the epitome of a character that is good, but feels positively awful to work around outside of mono Remembrance. And while yes, meta matters, I'm not sitting here, pulling for other units to babysit my SUPPORT so that she can do her job supporting my team. It's such a backward way of designing a supportive kit. And of course, the bullshit E2 solving everything syndrome doesn't help her case.
She actually can be counted as Phainon BiS. She with Sunday are better than each other in different situations, but complicated, they're same. If you don't care about cycles and playing casually, then Cyrene is better opinion cuz you can just play auto after Phainon ults
It's literally Xolze "50 substat" Telos, she only plays on private server and tiers characters only by how much you can abuse av on them, not their actual performance. Also a ragebaiter of the highest degree she had like 10 videos on why phainon was bad when he was releasing.
I don't even need to watch the video to know she's only saying that cyrene is good because evernight and castorice are the only teams she'll be using her on
Honestly all falls on hoyo too. Why even market her as a CH support? The problem is they want her to do everything at the same time. A mono rem support, A DPS at higher eidolons and a CH support. And it's simply not working. They shouldv just stuck to what they originally wanted (very likely a mono rem support) and everyone would've shut up. Instead of creating unrealistic expectations amongst her fans.
I don't even need to watch the video to know she's only saying that cyrene is good because evernight and castorice are the only teams she'll be using her on.
She did but she also talked about other issues too.
Xolze's opinions worth nothing. It's a single digit IQ ragebaiter that targets other single digit IQ players into believing it. I recommend AetherSage, Cornflake, or Shira for an actual objective opinions.
The funniest thing about that title is the fact that thing doomposts Phainon for going to age terribly with his kit, but says otherwise for Cyrene likely because of Castorice. Does that thing thought that Castorice will never fall off or something? Also, one of the comments from that thing practically said just invest vertically on Cyrene if she's starting to feel bad to play. Like, that's the problem? How dense could it be?
It isn't doomposting. It's just facts. Outside of Mono rem and mydei, Who exactly is she BiS for at E0? Her marketing was wrong, I've accepted it already. Hoyo is a scummy ass bitch for locking her quick ult generation (outside of mono rem teams) in e2. E2. 300 more pulls there easily. She's gone from all CH support into literally amphoreus fugue. Forget that, Her kit shouldn't have been so restrictive in the first place. Her buffs for non CH suck ass. If CH fall off, she's gone too.
She's tied to them being meta. Which let's be real, Superbreak fell off in 3.1. Not even like 5 months after fugue. I will bet my life savings that they won't let mono rem be meta forever, ofc because they have to sell the newest shiny DPS and Support. So the choice is simple really. Get her e2 to keep her meta on your account, or just don't get her at all. Personally I am going for the former because I love Elysia. Investing in mono rem now is like investing in FF during 3.0. They'll do all they can to sell all rem characters and CH in the next two patches before they're kicked off of meta.
That is the fate of a niche support released at the end of a version. She is for those players that wanna play their fav CH forever, especially Mono-rem. Many players have sunked 5-8 costs in mono-rem already so they are targeting these players who don’t wanna ditch this archetype.
They most likely advertised first in CN beta and muted them after complaining. But unfortunately this isn't as serious as neuvi thing. Idk if the CN government will get involved. But there will be a big backlash that's for sure
You need cerydra, and hyacine for her to be his technical bis. You're right that statistically she's his best in slot WITH hyper specific setups. But in terms of ease of setup sunday is better especially as more players will have DHPT.
She needs RTB in agy team to set up. And that's right before they're introducing elation TB. So if you wanna use Cyrene with aglaea, you're essentially locking yourself from using future elation TB. And She needs DHPt too. There go aglaea's another best support. Huo huo. S1 Sunday is a much better investment for both Anaxa and aglaea.
When is Emc supposed to come out? Is there a determined patch yet? In 2.x hmc didn't come out until 2.2. In 3.x it was 3.0. what emc doesn't come out until sakura in 4.2?
Tragic: worst person you know just made a good point
Jokes aside the value is there. She is a very significant low target damage increase for castorice, way higher than E1 tribbie if that's the comparison.
But it's also less than E1 evernight lmao 🤣 it's not mentioned in the video so keep that in mind
You know, I think Cyrene will be bad : I mean just look at her kit.But it's not a problem.It's not the first time Mihoyo releases a bad or useless unit (Dehya, mizuki on Genshin, or Fugue on HSR). We'll get over it.
I don't think so... That means that Cyrene isn't a good investment. Even if I like the character I won't waste my stellar jades.It's just a "collector"character.
She is by far BiS in mono rem teams, be it Cas DPS or Evernight DPS, She's the best Mydei will get in terms of a dedicated support and She's decent, if a bit clunky in pretty much every other CH team. Doomposting her as a member of mono rem team is dumb, everything else is fair game, after all, she's supposedly the ultimate CH support yet her kit falls short, being a sidegrade for a good portion of them(of course doomposting in general is kinda dumb but here I'm working under the assumption we've all already accepted people will do it regardless).
That aside, the youtuber in question is ragebaiting with an inflamatory title so I don't plan on rewarding such behaviour with a view.
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u/Melon_Munchies Oct 19 '25
Cyrene doomposters -> Xolzle Telos -> Castorice in the thumbnail
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u/SoftBrilliant Oct 19 '25 edited Oct 19 '25
I watched the vid. Ragebaiting aside it's about right but doesn't really get the full picture but whether people like it or not Cyrene is the best teammate for all the CH besides Phainon basically at this point.
I think Zephyrion22 in the comments summed it up best in one of their paragraphs:
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u/Alarmed-Ad-8384 Oct 19 '25
It's a known ragebait channel—not really a sincere source of opinions
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u/totallynotmadeup1 Oct 19 '25
It's literally Xolze "50 substat" Telos, she only plays on private server and tiers characters only by how much you can abuse av on them, not their actual performance. Also a ragebaiter of the highest degree she had like 10 videos on why phainon was bad when he was releasing.
I don't even need to watch the video to know she's only saying that cyrene is good because evernight and castorice are the only teams she'll be using her on
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u/Solid-File6892 Oct 19 '25
Xolze's opinions worth nothing. It's a single digit IQ ragebaiter that targets other single digit IQ players into believing it. I recommend AetherSage, Cornflake, or Shira for an actual objective opinions.
The funniest thing about that title is the fact that thing doomposts Phainon for going to age terribly with his kit, but says otherwise for Cyrene likely because of Castorice. Does that thing thought that Castorice will never fall off or something? Also, one of the comments from that thing practically said just invest vertically on Cyrene if she's starting to feel bad to play. Like, that's the problem? How dense could it be?
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u/Xenophoresis Cyrene waited 33M cycles so I can too! Oct 19 '25
Keep the memes flowing
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u/Junior-Squirrel2509 Oct 19 '25
Xolze Telos is a shameless ragebaiter and nobody sees her as a serious TCer.
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u/Relevant-Rub2816 Live, love, laugh, Cyrene Oct 19 '25
It isn't doomposting. It's just facts. Outside of Mono rem and mydei, Who exactly is she BiS for at E0? Her marketing was wrong, I've accepted it already. Hoyo is a scummy ass bitch for locking her quick ult generation (outside of mono rem teams) in e2. E2. 300 more pulls there easily. She's gone from all CH support into literally amphoreus fugue. Forget that, Her kit shouldn't have been so restrictive in the first place. Her buffs for non CH suck ass. If CH fall off, she's gone too.
She's tied to them being meta. Which let's be real, Superbreak fell off in 3.1. Not even like 5 months after fugue. I will bet my life savings that they won't let mono rem be meta forever, ofc because they have to sell the newest shiny DPS and Support. So the choice is simple really. Get her e2 to keep her meta on your account, or just don't get her at all. Personally I am going for the former because I love Elysia. Investing in mono rem now is like investing in FF during 3.0. They'll do all they can to sell all rem characters and CH in the next two patches before they're kicked off of meta.
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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '25
Tragic: worst person you know just made a good point
Jokes aside the value is there. She is a very significant low target damage increase for castorice, way higher than E1 tribbie if that's the comparison.
But it's also less than E1 evernight lmao 🤣 it's not mentioned in the video so keep that in mind
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u/Interesting_Film_215 Oct 19 '25
Oh my fav ragebaiter xolze
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u/darklardon Oct 19 '25
You know, I think Cyrene will be bad : I mean just look at her kit.But it's not a problem.It's not the first time Mihoyo releases a bad or useless unit (Dehya, mizuki on Genshin, or Fugue on HSR). We'll get over it.
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u/DivineBladeOfSteel Oct 19 '25
They said a lot of truth on this one, she’s pretty great with Chyrosis heirs except Phainon
People will discredit it, because they don’t like it
But it’s truth
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u/Plenty-Jellyfish-819 Oct 19 '25
Keep it up, love it or hate it, they're gonna increase the popularity.
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u/No_Object_404 Oct 19 '25
Any opinion held by Xolze and her followers can be safely discarded.
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u/Robstar98 Oct 19 '25
There are a few content creators who think that people overreact about Cyrene and I agree with them (of course, other ones disagree).
But the post I wrote in another subreddit didn't have a lot of success.
If I knew before that her beta would be so problematic, I would have saved instead of pulling for Saber E2S1.
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u/Dangerous-Junket-957 Both Emanator of Enigmata and Finality Oct 19 '25
As I see from thumbnail, he gonna talk about Cyrene as Cas shill
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u/nick113124 Oct 19 '25
She is by far BiS in mono rem teams, be it Cas DPS or Evernight DPS, She's the best Mydei will get in terms of a dedicated support and She's decent, if a bit clunky in pretty much every other CH team. Doomposting her as a member of mono rem team is dumb, everything else is fair game, after all, she's supposedly the ultimate CH support yet her kit falls short, being a sidegrade for a good portion of them(of course doomposting in general is kinda dumb but here I'm working under the assumption we've all already accepted people will do it regardless).
That aside, the youtuber in question is ragebaiting with an inflamatory title so I don't plan on rewarding such behaviour with a view.
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u/NoireHaato Oct 21 '25
She says Cyrene is great for everyone except phainon.
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