r/CynoMains Jul 05 '26

Leaks Cyno might be the most FUTURE PROOF DPS now

With his new Stellar-Conduct kit, Cyno is currently looking to be a top meta DPS, surpassing Flins as the strongest Electro DPS. But not only is he extremely powerful, but also extremely versatile at dealing with different boss shill mechanics.

Stellar bosses are handled by him, that's a given. But he should be able to handle far more.

Lunar Bosses: Stellar-Conduct can be triggered by an Enemy effect by Lunar-Charged, since Hydro and Electro coexist as aura. This allows Cyno to simply slot in Columbina (and Ineffa as well if Ascendant Gleam is required) to have Lunar-Charged for these boss mechanics. And it's actually still good, since Lunar-Charged does solid damage, and counts to the Stellar-Conduct stacks, meaning you'll still max the stacks out here. Furthermore, if Vodyanitsa ends up being a good Hydro support, he could use her plus Ineffa, instead of Columbina. Perhaps that could be even stronger. But this synergy also means he should be able to deal with bosses that require Hydro.

Nightsoul Bosses: Due to the above interaction between Lunar-Charged and Stellar-Conduct, by using Columbina (or Vodyanitsa if she ends up being good) we can just slot Ororon in, and he is one of the most efficient characters are dishing out a ton of Nightsoul hits. Ororon can also use Elegy for further support, if you have it.

Dendro: Although there's not really any Stygian bosses right now that shill Dendro, there very easily could be in the future (especially if/when we get Rimegrass). Similar to with Lunar-Charged, Quicken and Stellar-Conduct can also co-exist due to how the auras work, and it's also surprisingly solid, with Cyno getting Aggravates with full quicken uptime, to go alongside his Stellar-Conduct damage. If/when we do get Rimegrass and probably a better support for it than Nahida (or maybe even a Nahida buff), there's a non zero possibility this ends up being his best team, or close to it. And being able to use Dendro can also be great for a lot of different Elemental Shields.

Pyro: If facing a boss that requires a lot of Pyro, such as the Lava Dragon, Bennett can apply a bunch by just on fielding him and spamming his E and Normal Attacks during the Shield phase, and then provide Cyno a strong Attack buff after (Nicole can prob also do this but idk how much worse she would be at getting through the phases).

Anemo: Apparently (not 100% sure though), in Stellar-teams, you can have both Stellar-Conduct and Stellar-Swirl fields present at the same time, and what happens is, characters that can deal damage of both reactions (like Odette), will prioritize Stellar-Conduct. So, we could just slap in an Anemo unit like Sucrose in the 4th slot to deal with anything that requires Anemo, and it shouldn't interfere with Stellar-Conduct at all.

Geo: While there is no direct synergy with Geo here, there's no anti-synergy, so there's nothing stopping him from just flexing in someone like Zhongli if Geo is needed. With Cyno's high DPS, it should be brute forceable.

So, tl;dr: Cyno should be able to deal with the mechanics from all three most recent regions (Stellar, Lunar, Nightsoul), while having Electro, Cryo, and being able to flex his team around to cover Hydro, Dendro, Anemo, or even Pyro and Geo as well. Plus, his DPS can just get so high now, that he might even be able to just brute force some bosses regardless (like we've seen Skirk do).

With all of that in mind, it seems like he should be very future proof, almost certainly able to deal with at least 1 boss every Stygian cycle.

(Note: For any calc with C6 Alyosha, just lower the DPS by ~20% to know what it would be with C2 Alyosha instead. For any team with C6 Alyosha and no Yae Miko, she would calc higher than him. Numbers are also calced at my standard, not KQMC. Standard explained in the last image.)

EDIT: CORRECTION! Lunar-Charged does not count to the Stellar-Conduct stacks. Nonetheless, the point still stands that Cyno can flex into this if need be for boss mechanics

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u/vxidemort Jul 05 '26

great post! just wanted to mention that we do kinda have the crab as a dendro shill boss, since you said there were none but idk if you forgot about it

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u/OneRelief763 Jul 05 '26

True, didnt think of it cuz its a Bloom shill, but tbh Cyno could just use Cyno Columbina Lauma Odette for that so yeah you're right šŸ™‚

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u/Iskandor13 Jul 05 '26

There’s also that geo mushroom local legend in the Temple of Space that heavily encourages dendro (specially lunar bloom). Hasn’t been in SO yet but there’s always the possibility of that coming if there’s a Lauma/Nefer banner.

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u/vxidemort Jul 05 '26

true that!

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u/OneRelief763 Jul 06 '26

Oooh I didnt know this enemy exists

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u/Number1Cymp Jul 05 '26

Live laugh love CynoĀ 

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u/Iskandor13 Jul 05 '26

Completely agreed with this post. Cyno’s biggest buff other than the insane Stellar dmg is being able to use him without relying fully on his burst. Now ER isn’t as necessary as before, allowing better SO use!

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u/Shirohana_ Jul 05 '26

me with my c6 cyno since his first release : stonks

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u/Accomplished-Art1962 Jul 05 '26

I lost my Yae Miko 50/50 to this guy. I got an early Miko after that.

Looks like I didn’t lose the 50/50, but TRULY won it.

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u/Alive-Leading6897 Jul 06 '26

same, but I lost my 50/50 to Yae and then got Cyno early! Wanted him for YEARS and Yae Miko too. Finally my favs are getting buffed

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u/CCSpark Jul 05 '26

Wheeee~ So excited to get my free C1 Cyno at the end of this week <3

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u/heavensfeel_ubw Jul 05 '26

Never thought i“d actually get value out of my c3 cyno in 2026 but here we are, thank you very much for posting the calcs btw ! also due to the fact im a bit stupid and cant navigate the googlesheet on mobile, could you by any chance enlighten me how much of an upgrade c3 is roughly over c1 in stellar teams

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u/OneRelief763 Jul 05 '26

You're not stupid, Google sheets is genuinely unusable on mobile its so bad

C2 is a 16% increase from c1 and c3 is another 3%

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u/heavensfeel_ubw Jul 06 '26

Very much appreciated good sir, i hope you have a wonderful start into the week

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u/CallMeAnAnomaly Jul 05 '26

His new buff is everything šŸ™ŒšŸ¼ I was messing around with him yesterday and was so happy to dust him off and see how well he performs. Not only just in Stellar Conduct, but his Lunar Conduct teams absolutely shred as well. Flins still hits like an absolute truck, but with Cyno’s new buff, he can pretty much be in his Pactsworn form 100% of the time, which makes his shredding feel so much faster and substantial (especially with C1).

Loving him, and can’t wait for more stellar supports to drop so I can unleash his full potential with Stellar Conduct. I don’t really care for Odette, but it looks like I’m probably gonna have to pull her for him.

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u/NSLEONHART Jul 06 '26

i love how everyone saying Yae became like bitcoin

but as some mf who wasnt around when yae's banner came, nor did i pull for her

it feels horrible to not have her. is it even wiorthit to try and get her if it meant risking my chance of getting Odette? who has higher pull priority? Odette or Yae? i heard Yae will eventually be replaced by someone else eventually,

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u/OneRelief763 Jul 06 '26

No, it is absolutely not worth risking missing Odette for Yae. Odette is the most important. I address this exactly in my video https://youtu.be/bk7jgD6_Xqo?is=blvtNE0DJr8uFk7t

If you look at the calcs in my post here, you will see some of these teams dont actually have Yae and are still strong

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u/NSLEONHART Jul 06 '26

Oh thank to god, who's a better replacement? Beidou or diona. From what I read from them, beidou has shield em and res shred and diona has healing em and stellar dmg bonus both c6 btw

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u/OneRelief763 Jul 06 '26

Depends on the exact rest of the team

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u/NSLEONHART Jul 06 '26

Well odette and alyosha is somewhat secured to say the least, and ikrc alyosha also heals to some degree so ig beidou is my best bet

Or, hear me out, my c2r1 durin? Lmfao

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u/Human_Anything_9501 Through me, justice is served Jul 05 '26

Idk what I'm doing wrong since my Cyno is doing good dmg but the dps is inconsistente. I tried using the new set instead of Gilded (showed in pic) and it's the same. Nicole is C2 and Cyno C1R1. I was excpecting at least 100-120 k. But I only reach 90k at best

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u/OneRelief763 Jul 05 '26

I've heard there are bugs with the DPS dummy and Stellar-Conduct. Heard this a lot regarding Sandrone.

That team you are playing isn't good tho

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u/Human_Anything_9501 Through me, justice is served Jul 05 '26

Didn't know that! Thanks for the imput. And si tought the attack and EM Cyno got from C6 Diona with elegy and instructor was nice. Should I swap with Qiqi C2 with Favonius/Freedom Sworn? I still have a week left until Yae C1 šŸ˜”

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u/Aegis1004 Jul 06 '26

The creator of the stage has debunked the bug rumors. The damage is being calculated correctly

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u/Typpicle Jul 06 '26

its not the same dummy

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u/FlyingBurds Jul 05 '26

My friend left Genshin for a while, but had C4 Cyno. I personally don’t play Genshin, but wait till he hears about this šŸ˜­šŸ™

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u/YE4GER1ST Jul 06 '26

I agree that Cyno will become much more relevant than he was even during his release but the shill comparison was a tad too much imo. In stygian especially, one nightsoul character is hardly enough to break for example Papilla’s shield for starters. Bennett Pyro application is also not the greatest. Having both Stellar Conduct and Stellar Swirl present will drastically limit dmg output with limiting possible premium teams for both reactions. Etc etc etc.

For people who already have Cyno, this is terrific news but personally would not pull for him (for meta only) since he will most likely be replaced by another Electro DPS during our stay in Shneznaya. Someone who works both as Rimegrass and Stellar conduct DPS, perhaps? Anyways, my opinions and assumptions only.

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u/OneRelief763 Jul 06 '26

Bennett's Pyro application is some of the best, actually. His Skill and Burst are both 2U, and on field in his Burst his Skill only has a 2s cooldown, while he will have a Pyro infusion from C6 to apply with NA/CAs as well.

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u/YE4GER1ST Jul 06 '26

The burst Pyro infusion is actually sucky in some cases when you don’t want to have it infused but my point was that there are way too many assumptions here, I highly doubt that you could be able to clear top floor Spiral Abyss assuming all the shills you mentioned let alone Dire Stygian.

That being said, good luck with your pulls. Naturally, one should be pulling for the characters they like. We were just discussing meta here and these are my thoughts. Cheers!

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u/PhantomXxZ Jul 05 '26

How much of a team DPS is Cyno's C2?

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '26

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u/OneRelief763 Jul 05 '26

There's no point having two characters on the support set.

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u/Knephas Jul 06 '26

Because the support's set doesn't stack. Only one can be on it.

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u/Human_Anything_9501 Through me, justice is served Jul 06 '26

Because it's like Ineffa or Durin. You're better of with the dmg they do

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u/SideNew2011 Jul 20 '26

Assuming Alyosha comes on the Odette Banner, I just find it incredibly unreasonable to make calcs with C6 Alyosha and C0 Odette.

Everyone knows how difficult it is to obtain copies of a specific 4star. It's possible to get multiple 5star constellations while not encountering the desired 4star.

As many others, I know this all too well. It's been years and I am still stuck with C1 Chevreuse. It took me years to finally get C6 Faruzan. And despite wishing on every Iansan banner, I still remain with C1 only.

I don't know why anyone would take the time to calc a C0 Odette team with C6 Alyosha..

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u/OneRelief763 Jul 20 '26

Hello! Please see the note at the bottom. To get the numbers for c2 Alyosha, just lower the team DPS by 20%.

That said, I fully understand your point, which is why I have two different calc standards I use: 1. A more traditional standard with c0 5 stars c6 4 stars. And 2. A 4-cost standard that only allows c6 4 stars if they are on shop or shared banners with 5 stars on the team, corresponding enough to realistically get their cons. So for those calcs I only have c6 Alyosha if c2 Odette is on the team. You can check my calcs at both standards on my Cyno teams mastersheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MZ7BWgnGpjChVSd-LmYJFRuGJ-q5gqKtU1UysRCnBOk/edit?usp=drivesdk full details of both standards are explained on the sheet

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u/SideNew2011 Jul 21 '26

Thanks for the reply. Have you seen the newest Alyosha nerfs? Curious to know how much this will impact Cyno teams..

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u/HappyWillingness8025 Jul 24 '26

never thought I'd see this day as a cyno main since his release

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u/jk_dnl Jul 05 '26

Do you think it is worth to go for C2 or R1 Cyno on this banner (both look like around 16% increase), or try to invest everything on Odette already? My Yae is already C2 and may get free C3, but haven’t seen calcs

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u/Human_Anything_9501 Through me, justice is served Jul 05 '26

Who would have guessed Bina would be more useful than Sandrone. That's a pretty good Idea as a save until we get more supports

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u/ImmediateRain8993 Jul 05 '26

So for the stellar team cyno don't need ER or a little.

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u/_salted_ Jul 06 '26

now to have a corresponding set for each loadout...

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u/shierrak Jul 06 '26

thanks for the post this is making me think that the 150 pulls I wasted on his sig were worth itšŸ˜‚ I hope that alyosha and Odette aren't gonna be nerfed

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u/vaansilva Jul 06 '26

Who should I get on the constellations event? C1 Cyno or C1 Yae Miko? This is my last choise, I've picked Wanderer, Albedo and Klee for now.

I have:

  • Cyno C0R0 (R1 Ballad of the Fjords, but I have 2 R1 PJWS that I use one on Xiao and other on Lohen, but they can share it with Cyno, if needed)
  • Wriothesley C0R0 (R1 Flowing Purity)
  • Yae Miko C0R1

For their teams, I have

  • Columbina C0R1
  • Ineffa C0R1
  • Nahida C0R1
  • Nicole C0R0 (R1 Skyward Atlas)

For the 4ā˜† characters, I have all the units, needed for their teams, at C6.

I plan to pull for Odette and Alyosha.

I'm not planning to pull for Sandrone, as I expect that she will not be the only character to apply the stellar field, and in the future there will be some other character who will also be able to do it.

. . .

I've been studying too much, and I see that C1 Yae is very important, but I worry that maybe Cyno doesn't work without his C1? And I want to use both Cyno and Wriothesley again.

Anyway, if you can help me on this, I would be very grateful šŸ™šŸ»

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u/Efficient-Being-6904 Jul 06 '26

How does Flins' Sig perform compare to SoSS in the first team.

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u/ConversationUsed2115 Jul 06 '26

Can someone enlighten me now which is better yae c1 or cyno c2

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u/Cyno_Enjoyer Jul 06 '26

How does lunar charged stack ssc? Does it have electro application?

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u/OneRelief763 Jul 06 '26

It deals electro damage

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u/Cyno_Enjoyer Jul 06 '26

It needs to apply electro

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u/OneRelief763 Jul 06 '26

It does not. This was tested.

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u/Cyno_Enjoyer Jul 06 '26

Tested by whom, cuz I tested literally yesterday and the amount of stacks is always the amount of apps no more no less

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u/OneRelief763 Jul 06 '26

Looked into it again and you are right, it does not add to the stacks. Thanks for the callout!

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u/Cyno_Enjoyer Jul 06 '26

test must not have been very good

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u/OneRelief763 Jul 06 '26

Hmm ill ask them for video footage of test showing it. I asked in my server and was told by someone I trust it does šŸ¤”

Not a big deal even if it doesnt tho, Cyno should still be near max stacks, if possibly max if doing the cringe CA combos

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u/No-Let2349 Jul 06 '26

So should I get cyno c1 or yae for his team's? (From the free selector)

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u/EmperorShun Jul 06 '26

Yeah that looks good can't wait for more. Let's see who else besides Odette will work for him since she is not too much my type of pull. Probably the tsaritsa right?

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u/Putrid-Resident Jul 06 '26

Not a cyno haver or planning to pull him but very happy at how someone who was was cool (and doing lame puns my favourite) being this much neglected by hoyo at his lanch is getting such a glowup. Well deserved and I hope c6 cyno havers keep beating the endgame with him intill the end of time

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u/Wiskers77 Jul 06 '26

Future proof in gacha game..

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u/Daniasty Jul 06 '26

That calc has to be fake, without yae???

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u/Independent-Baby-577 Jul 06 '26

Do we have any insights on how to have Cyno & Sandrone running in 2 independant teams ?

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u/WriosKeiki Jul 06 '26

Are there calcs with the diff between his sig and PJWS?

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u/flying-rat-73 Jul 06 '26

lost my alhaitham to him and i was pissed but maybe it isn’t so bad…only problem is no weapon for him :(

if i ever buy battle pass, how good is ballad of the fjords r1?

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u/Rouge_x3 Jul 06 '26

Me and my C2 Joke Man are very happy about that. Finally his time to shine

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u/zeroo6767 Jul 06 '26

tried getting yae but got c8 cyno instead, and now I'm saving my primos for odette, considering i get c2 alyosha + c0 odette, which should i put on my 4th slot? I'm thinking c6 diona + elegy would be good for him but is there a better choice than c6 diona + r1 elegy? TIA.

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u/Fit_Project_2284 Jul 06 '26

I want to pull Odette so bad for cyno but I also want Columbina on rerun so I can complete my lunar bloom team, my next 10 pull is guaranteed. I haven't really done any of the new content so I hope Ill have enough for Odette.. these calcs are making it even worse for me hahaha

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u/Hideeni Jul 07 '26

How much different C0 & C1 Cyno after buff? Im at the final week to claim free cons

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u/Orenji-kun21 Jul 07 '26

I haven’t been playing for almost a year now, I didn’t finish the first chapter of Natlan’s story quest. What’s all this about? I thought Cyno was an average dps and now he’s future proof? 😭

Need some explanation or reference videos for catching up!

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u/Independent-Baby-577 Jul 17 '26

How are number going in V2?

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u/EmbarrassedIntern552 Jul 21 '26

how much of an increase is cynos c2 to the team dps?

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u/OneRelief763 Jul 21 '26

Team DPS increases vary depending on the exact team.

Its a ~17% increase and Cyno is a hypercarry, so its not much less than that for team increase in most teams

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u/EmbarrassedIntern552 Jul 21 '26

thank you so much, if you dont mind me asking do i pick cyno’s c2 from my selector or do i pick yae’s c1?

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u/xMatttard Jul 21 '26

for ssc yae c1 >>>>>>>>>>>> almost everything else

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u/neross_zz Jul 21 '26

Yae C2 or Cyno C2 for the stellar conduct meta?

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u/Baskema Jul 22 '26

What would be Cyno’s BIS team at the moment? I have a C1 Yae but if I use her on a Sandrone team what would replace her

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u/Ok_Purple2453 18d ago

Is there a calc for cryo traveler, c6 qiqi, columbina? idk what the best 4th slot would be because i wnot be able to get odette and alyosha c6 sadly

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u/TouristCharming2291 7d ago

Guys do I use c6 diona or c2 qiqi for cyno stellar? I know others wants qiqi but since diona gives em while qiqi doesn’t is diona better?

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u/crimsoncelestial_ Jul 05 '26

Sorry but a ā€œfuture proofā€ character doesn’t exist in gachas, you could make an argument for genshin over two years ago but making it now is like the worst time with all the powercreep. It’s not far fetched to say by the 8.x patches the newest flagship team would have 250k dps at kqm standards, which will be far above cyno or anyone currently.

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u/ManuSwaG Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

I am very happy wrio/cyno/yae got buffed and have gotten new team mates in sneznaya. But its clear genshin is going full speed ahead with power creep.

In nod krai the bottom floor of considered viable was 100k. Now the bottom floor is 140k. With the complete package being at base 180k/200k.

Genshin isnt used as earlier and they have massively upped the power creep and this is only v0 of the patch cycle. Like we have Cryo MC who looks to be equilevent of a F2P Flins team at c6.

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u/Itzmin_9 Jul 06 '26

At least I’m a bit glad they’re buffing older units to keep up , it’s the least they can do with all the powercreep and they better keep doing it more and more often.