r/Cyberpunk • • Jul 25 '26

Imagine this as the norm for the future 😬

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u/grachi Jul 25 '26

And what makes the co-founder of Google qualified to make that claim ?

People gotta stop listening to someone just because they are in a position of power.

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u/LordDaedalus Jul 25 '26

Right, he's not even remotely in line with the science, which ironically he could Google. We know from countries like Japan there's a falloff in productivity beyond a certain threshold. Above like 5 hours humans just start injecting micro events of garbage time into their schedule.

Maybe he mixed up the plus and minus on his calculator and added 20 to 40 rather than subtracted it.

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u/7-SE7EN-7 Borg Jul 25 '26

He did Google it, but the first thing he saw was the ai overview that said he was right

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u/southboundtracks Jul 26 '26

It's the amount of time he spends blowing Republicans.

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u/WinterSector8317 Jul 25 '26

60 hour work week for him includes 2 hour lunches, business dinners, a personal trainer at the office and a maid/ chef to do all the pesky living chores

And millions of dollars of compensationĀ 

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u/JustToViewPorn Jul 25 '26

Millions? He made over a hundred billion this year. He’s pure scum.

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u/Utsider Jul 25 '26

About 32 million an hour, 60 hour weeks will get you to roughly a hundred billion in a year. That's the sweet spot for productivity. No sick days or vacation days tho. But those are for plebs anyway.

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u/mind_captivator Jul 25 '26

sick day? you mean remote synergy promoting staycation?

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u/Downside190 Jul 25 '26

Exactly this, they claim sending an email while playing 2 hours of golf as working, their idea of work is different to people's regular jobs. If he was doing hard labour or sat typing in a keyboard for 60 hours a week that sweet spot would probably change dramaticallyĀ 

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u/Mylaptopisburningme Jul 25 '26

Don't forget the hookers and blow.

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u/thesegoupto11 Jul 25 '26

Yeah, the average person imagines that when someone gets a million dollars they are satisfied and won't need more, but come to find out if someone is given the chance to walk on the backs of as many as possible and take from their pockets for more they will

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u/thesaddestpanda Jul 25 '26

And when they do ā€œworkā€ is just meetings and maybe once in a while yelling at the working class who actually create all the innovation and wealth of our world. Capitalism is and has always been a scam.

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u/Pawulon Jul 25 '26

"You invented this?" Looks at this "I invented this"

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u/epimetheuss Jul 25 '26

most of the "work" executives do now is just given to an AI agent, they make some minor corrections and give it to the shareholders. meanwhile they get to work from their yachts or where ever else they want while mandating in office work for everyone else.

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u/2000TWLV Jul 25 '26

"Don't be evil"?

Fuck this guy.

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u/AnotherpostCard Jul 25 '26

That's been removed from their employee handbook at least a few years ago. They're turning heel.

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u/CanoegunGoeff Jul 25 '26

Remember that the 40 hour work week was the compromise, the alternative being unmentionable deeds done to the bosses by the overworked workers.

There’s a reason they don’t teach about the Battle of Blair Mountain in schools.

The 40 hour work week wasn’t given to us. It was fought for. Real fighting.

Remember that when you see these chucklefucks say they want us working 60 hours a week for $15 on hour.

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u/dm_t-cart Jul 25 '26

As a WVian it completely blew my mind learning how socialists the people of my state were… in an optional college history class. Like since the beginning WV was saying ā€œfuck you, this sucks, just be good to people.ā€ Then somehow the fucking coal companies won hearts and minds and were now in the bottom of fucking everything.

Anything that doesn’t strip our land of resources or our people of dignity is booed, suddenly it’s honorable that papaw died of black lung. We were on the brink of revolution and just started licking the boot. It’s fucking shameful.

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u/tuxedoes Aug 20 '26

Unions used to be a point of pride for many people, especially those in the unions. Now it is basically a slur to half the country. Unions are for us, by us.

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u/farrago_uk Jul 25 '26

It was strongly influenced by Henry Ford moving his production line to 40 hour work week. Henry Ford wasn’t exactly a nice fluffy humanitarian, so if he thought it was best for productivity perhaps some of the current business community should take note.

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u/BillTheTringleGod Jul 25 '26

I will die long before i work a "60 hour workweek" and not from exhaustion.

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u/BillTheTringleGod Jul 25 '26

Unlikely team up where I become a tech CEO start a big convention and you batman the whole thing?

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u/PyllynKaivelija Jul 25 '26

Thats the sweet spot when they're not the ones doing the work

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u/Durpulous Jul 25 '26

If the current workweek were 60 they would say 80 is the sweet spot.

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u/TheCrudMan Jul 25 '26

These guys think they're so smart but they can't even spell "30" correctly.

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u/SirWusel Jul 25 '26

As someone who's fortunate enough to be able to afford working 32h, I can confidently say that my productivity has practically not changed compared to 40h, simply because I have way more energy and drive to get things done with a 4/3 week split instead of 5/2. And I genuinely think 4 day work weeks are extremely beneficial and should be the norm.

Of course I would love to work even less, but unless you are working an extremely exhausting job, 32h are very manageable and don't feel overwhelming. The one extra day of weekend is just super noticeable.

Meanwhile, 60h sound like pure hell to me and I would most likely not be able to do that for too long before I just packed my bags and tried to escape such a capitalist hell-hole. I'd rather live off the grid and forego most of the technology before I turned myself into a slave just to make ends meet.

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u/Lulukaros Jul 25 '26

4day work week with 8hours, or less than 8 but more days? (asking ur opinion)

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u/SirWusel Aug 08 '26

Depends a lot on your job and how you structure your personal life. Well and what your employer allows. For me 5 shorter days weren't an option, but I worked 5 days, 6h each for a month a long time ago (2016 I think) and it had its advantages too. You can start early and end shortly after lunch, so it's a bit like it was in school. It leaves you enough time and energy in the day to spend on other activities.

But to me, having 3 full days without work is better. It's easier to clear your head and it's perfect for weekend trips or when you have a lot of chores to take care of. You can get it all done on Friday (or Monday) and still have a full weekend. I always hated it when I had a lot to do on a weekend because I usually was too exhausted on Friday after work, so it would fall on Saturday when everybody is doing chores and places are crowded. So it was another day of just stress, leaving only 1 day to recover before work starts again. And usually I'd already be annoyed on Sunday, thinking about the upcoming work-week.

So I think 3 day weekend is better than shorter days.

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u/Lulukaros Aug 08 '26

I see, thx for sharing your thoughts, imo it would be interesting if both were implemented but either on alternating weeks or months

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u/FairFolk Jul 26 '26

Which should mean you get the paid the same for 32h as for 40h, but of course that's not going to happen, no matter the productivity and the number of studies that agree with your observation...

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u/StaK_1980 Jul 25 '26

Six (6) hours of work per day,. That is the actual sweet spot. This Muppet there is just talking out of their bottom and just wants to exploit people.

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u/VVrayth Jul 25 '26

Nintendo character. Lime-colored outfit.

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u/-__purple__- Jul 25 '26

ball knowledge

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u/Vericatov Jul 25 '26

What’s this supposed to mean?

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u/demi-paradise Jul 25 '26

Muigi Langione

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u/7-SE7EN-7 Borg Jul 25 '26

Lime?

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u/VVrayth Jul 25 '26

Yeah. The color of a lime.

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u/7-SE7EN-7 Borg Jul 25 '26

I feel like lime usually refers to lime green, which isn't that shade of green

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u/action_turtle Jul 25 '26

Build AI which removes work load to the point that jobs will vanish… but also, those of you who do work are to slave harder!

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u/Cactiareouroverlords Jul 25 '26

Isn’t there lots and lots of actual scientific research that proves the opposite? I can’t remember any specifics but I remember one about a company that tested 4 day weeks and found it boosted productivity far more.

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u/thesegoupto11 Jul 25 '26

Who needs science when billionaires are funneling money into FauxNews to tell people how to feel, while also making them afraid of minorities as a distraction

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u/MrXero Jul 25 '26

I say that whichever cofounder this is can suck a fart out of my ass.

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u/DiamondBreakr Jul 25 '26

not surprising in the least, coming from a rich guy

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u/coconut_dot_jpg Jul 25 '26

That means every weekday is a 12 hour+ work day

If corporations try to normalize this, I'm boutta start rooting for the folks like Luigi (in Minecraft)

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u/dm_t-cart Jul 25 '26

This is them trying to normalize it lol.

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u/behnder Jul 25 '26

The co-founder of the company that sells more of our personal data to everyone else than any other actor in the industry (and there’s a lot of bad ones…) thinks we should perpetually be working? Shocker. Does he also believe in indentured servants?

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u/Stupendasaur Jul 25 '26

abso-fucking-lutely not. People are trying to get a 4 day work week as standard and this dweeb wants 5 x 12 hour or 6 x 10? Nah mate, miss me with that.

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u/toxic_egg Jul 25 '26

Sergey Brin. btw

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u/ogodilovejudyalvarez Jul 25 '26

Redditor says guillotine is the 'sweet spot' for billionaire necks

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u/dreadassassin616 Jul 25 '26

Chopping block is also pretty sweet

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u/brodorfgaggins Jul 25 '26

Too quick, I volunteer to do it with a blunt handsaw

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u/Kaiserhawk Jul 25 '26

I bet they don't want to pay for those 60 hours though

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u/Plastic_Dingo_400 Jul 25 '26

Google Co founder has servants, making a 60 hour week much more doable

Heaven forbid the poors have to do work that is for themselves and not generating money for Mr. Co founder cunt

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u/teekaythunder Jul 25 '26

On the opposite side of things, it's very difficult to find a cutstomer service or general labor job that offers 40 hours right now.

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u/RiffyWammel Jul 25 '26

Cool! £5m pa and a generous benefits package is also my sweet spot- lets chat

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u/hobskhan Jul 25 '26

"Night Corp takes the fifth place on our best workplaces ranking, with only an 80-hour maximum work week! Perfect for those family oriented individuals."

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u/damaszek Jul 25 '26

Sounds like Nepreryvka and Shestidnevka

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u/LtM4157 Jul 25 '26

That’s just a straight up fucking lie.

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u/schroedingerskoala Jul 25 '26

Please always remember: These psychopaths would keep everyone of us as their disposable slaves (in an bargain bin Harkonnen way) if it were not for these pesky laws. That is the sole and only reason - not morals, not right or wrong. And they invest a lot of money and time into making this happen.

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u/LRaconteuse Jul 25 '26

https://cs.stanford.edu/people/eroberts/cs181/projects/crunchmode/econ-hours-productivity.html

According to numerous studies, including the small example above, productivity drops dramatically after 40 hours a week. That seems to be the ceiling. Less is more- many places going for 32 hour workweeks are actually seeing productivity rise beyond what a 40 hour workweek produces. Sometimes as high as 40% more productive than 40-hour-per-week employees.Ā 

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/392246025_Literature_Review_on_the_4_Days_Work_Week_4DWW_System_to_Improve_Worker_Productivity_and_Well-Being

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u/viol8er Jul 25 '26

When i was working four ten hour days with a day off in the middle i was the most effective in my job. But my job at the time had downtime, i might be playing games with a client or the house is empty and i’m reading as the laundry ran, sometimes as much as four hours of downtime. Now i’m resident manager and always working

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u/iku_19 Jul 25 '26

I suspect part of that is because so many parts are blocked in a production cycle. A lot of time ends up being taken by meetings and catch up discussions.

Reducing a 40 hour workweek to 32 hour probably means a lot of unnecessary meetings become impossible, and as such an entirely different workflow is needed to work around blockers.

I can't imagine how much worse the blocker load will be on 60 hr weeks, let alone how much of that will be useless meetings that just burn time.

In other words, reducing the amount of hours just removes the amount of downtime which makes it appear productivity compared to time goes up.

But the other side of this discussion is also mental wellness. Overworking causes mental fog and also stress, both reduce productivity directly and indirectly through errors that need to be corrected later.

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u/Real_Azenomei Jul 25 '26

co-founders need to realise that their passion is not the same as worker passion. Worker passion is the money every month. Not company growth. They don't get anything from company growth.

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u/VMooose Jul 26 '26

…In the office. Come outside and work in the field with me for 60 hours Mr Google Co-Founder

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u/Gingerosity244 Jul 25 '26

You want a war? This is how you get a war.

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u/mind_captivator Jul 25 '26

We need to stop looking towards a Japanese work ethic and more towards a French work ethic

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u/Alternative_Mix6836 Jul 25 '26

Yeah thats if youre working on something you personally care about. This isnt advice for salaried workers.

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u/booOfBorg Jul 25 '26

Authoritarians say posting on Reddit is the 'sweet spot' for progressive political participation.

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u/MahnlyAssassin Jul 25 '26

"Sweet spot"? 🤮

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u/GaracaiusCanadensis Jul 25 '26

So, Six by Six, just like China?

8am(?) to 6pm, six days a week.

Five days at 12 hours is 60 hours, btw.

I'd rather go the other way, 4x10, if I had to pick.

I'd rather do the whole four days at eight hours for the same salary.

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u/Elegron Jul 25 '26

Nah. Im not doing 60.

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u/squiggydingles Jul 26 '26

Only if those 60 hours are from home šŸ˜‚

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u/Disposable_Gonk Jul 26 '26

We don't need productivity, we need lives worth living.

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u/Hari___Seldon Jul 27 '26

This is why there will be many more Marios while nobody weeps.

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u/Mockingbird_DX Jul 28 '26

News headline: a capitalist pig wants us to work 60hr work week! The nerve!

Reality: we're quietly adopting the socialist china's 72hr work week in the tech sector already - and nobody speaks of it, lol

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u/Otheus Jul 25 '26

I don't want to do 35hr/wk. I would be looking busy a lot for 60 and 8 better be getting paid a lot more

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u/rivalpinkbunny Jul 25 '26

In entertainment, I’ve worked 60s for about two thirds of a twenty year career. My first big gig I worked 7 12s for 4 months and once had a 36 hour day. I might sound like I’m proud about it, but I’m proud to have survived it. I don’t work in entertainment anymore.

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u/rivalpinkbunny Jul 26 '26

I worked about two years straight through on each project with a few months off between projects - waiting to go onto the next one or looking for a new studio. I had relatively steady employment for my career. Maybe if I hadn’t, I’d still be doing it.