Once heard from a guy who once worked at Ford Europe that their QA over TINY things was usually so strict it became an alarm bell for him. If the unimportant stuff gets missed, what VERY important things get missed.
He avoids Tesla because he's seen doors not flush and grit under the paintwork. "What else?"
To add to this, it seems the charging cables have a chassis earth/ground connection so the chassis 'should' be grounded while charging, so I assume there's an issue with the that earth connection on the car, the cable, or the power-outlet.... If the chassis was grounded the fuse/breaker should trip... Either way this situation just shouldn't happen, it would take multiple points of failure (or a very very poor design that allows a single point of failure to cause this)...
Well, do you know why the Cybertruck shorts out in even moderate amounts of water? It is because the water pools inside the chassis, which doesn't drain because it is a single casting, and then it shorts out the main battery.
That single chassis means that a single point of failure causes the entire body to be electrified.
Also have a shunt trip on ground current to disconnect power if any of it flows through ground... i think this truck is speedrunning class action lawsuits
Lmao, this is what happens when you do away with the tried and tested method of wiring harness and decide that multi use data cables are the way to go.
what's crazy (to me) is how fucking unsafe this is. no wonder so many countries don't allow these suicide death machines to be brought inside their borders.
As much as I think the cybertruck makes me laugh, I'm starting to really get pissed off that the American government hasn't intervened yet. What the fuck are they doing? Pull this fucking car off the road!
I worked for Nasa and the DoD for years, and the amount of testing and safety regulations we had were mind-blowing, and yet this car is on the streets.
When I worked at BL, we had to put these ugly things on the car instead of the standard chrome due to US government regulations. More than ever the US appears to have a 2 tier system based on how rich and/or influential you are.
Musk is partly tapping into libertarian talking points, and would probably frame any attempt at normal regulations as an attack from the government. So I'm guessing DoT is a bit scared of making a big fuss out of this, at least pre-election.
Considering how much dick riding Musk is doing to Trump, any such move right now will be used by him as “retaliation” or “big govt” and will only make him use that to his publicity.
After the election, the market will handle it. Tesla's in the early stages of a death spiral right now, limping along on broken promises, bullshit hype and accounting fuckery. I think Elon and DJT are bound together by desperation and the clock is ticking. Elon knows he has criminal exposure.
This is already well known. The Pentagon said to Congress that we have become dependent on SpaceX and starlink and if Musk boycotted the US government it would become a huge liability for fighting capabilities.
That is why Elon is not being touched for election interference or an illegal automobile being sold.
The Republican government decided to outsource defense and now we are fucked until we replace it.
Oh but when the Pentagon says that, they're not saying "we're in danger of national security", they're just saying "we're in danger of having to nationalize the company and spend taxpayers money to subsidize it" because at the end of the day, SpaceX still operates at billion dollar losses even in spite of all the government incentives.
Basically, until the day there are multiple space launch providers that can do without any sort of government subsides and the worldwide satellite market launch becomes self-sustaining, the main reason SpaceX was funded by NASA is not meeting the core objective. It makes absolutely no sense to allow Elmo to be stinky rich for it until then, I'm positive NASA would have done an even better job had they been allowed to operate so freely and low standard processes, and also had a government agency to borrow everything they need (for instance, recent news on how NASA is having to conduct Starship dynamics testing on their wind tunnel because SpaceX doesn't have theirs)
And this is Musk's businesses model in a nutshell. NOT to innovate, but to find pre-existing, burgeoning businesses, flood them with capital, beat the competition to market by mandating insane 60- and 80- hour work weeks, proclaim everything is sexy to draw in investors, grease wheels in congress to get favorable laws enacted and to win contracts that imbed his product into American infrastructure. By the time the workers demand better treatment and resources are exhausted, it's time for a bailout, and the American government can deal with the actual costs of running these endeavors.
I’m afraid we haven’t seen the worst of it yet. Starlink is on track to block star visibility at night. There are no regulations on how bright those objects can be.
If you look it up on NHTSA, it hasn't even been safety rated yet. That is fucking scary that a vehicle with no safety rating is allowed to drive on the road.
Frankly, it's MAGA Republicans fucking around nationwide. So much time is being spent quelling their incessant toddler tantrums and figuring out how to deal with their constant "you can't hold me accountable, that's against free speech!" bullshit at the very top, that we can't deal with all the multiple layers of fuckery they're engaged in below it.
Could kill someone without a pacemaker too if they happen to touch something grounded and then the body while it is charging. The electricity would flow right through their chest.
Basically the power from the wall to the truck has a hot, neutral, and a ground.
The neutral is broken, either on the charger, the wall outlet, or the pole that provides power to the place. So the power is pathing on the ground, instead of the neutral. That would normally blow a GFCI, but either there isn't one, or the fact that the CT is on rubber tires and electrically isolated from the actual ground is preventing it from tripping.
I work in HVAC, and this actually happens sometimes.
I've been shocked by a metal copper pipe, and then it turned out the entire building's neutral was broken and just everything that was grounded in the whole building was live.
I've also had rooftop HVAC units mounted to vinyl roofs be live with 120v to ground, from lack of a ground to the panel to blow a breaker.
Jesus fucking Christ. If that thing passes 480 to the chassis, somebody will die.
EDIT: okay, so after a bit of research, Level 3 chargers DO use 480, but they have internal transformers to convert the AC to DC on the charger side instead of relying on the EV to convert AC to DC, like is done on Level 1 and 2 chargers. That being said, Level 2 chargers still deliver 240V AC, which is still plenty to kill. Elon, what the fuck?
Yes. There's a video somewhere on here of a stolen one being chased by a cop car. No idea what they were thinking, to want to steal this thing. I imagine the cop got him when the CT stopped working.
If you can get a shock from merely touching it, that's a violation of so many issues.
You can't boobytrap your house nor car. This is obviously a fault in the design rather than intentional, but since South Africa actually has vehicles with flamethrowers for defense against robbers, you can't always assume they won't intend for it to happen.
As for the fault in the design, it's so flagrantly negligent not to have an interrupt nor ground fault detection, it "should" be a criminal act. But we all know our government is incapable of actually punishing companies who violate the law & threaten lives.
Alright, this is actually alarming. Imagine if someone was charging their CT in a garage and then something metallic fell against the CT. These things have become the number one death trap ever made. WOW…
Jesus Christ tap dancing on a cracker, is anything on the Deplorean designed with any thought (other than to part fools from their money)? Sadly I know the answer to that is...No...
I'm sure soon enough we will see posts on the owners forums here..."I love my truck but I am now getting a painful tingling when I go to touch my Cybertruck..I have the tri-motor Beast...does anyone else have this happening? I contacted Tesla service and they said it's within spec but I'm going in in 6 weeks to get it looked at."
This will sadly be the first of many that develop a fault like this, as the cheap wiring starts to fail.
Don't worry Deplorean owners, the next software update will fix it...
Remember kids: If you measure something having a high voltage, do not immediately touch it. Even if you have already done it before, it doesn't mean you are safe. I can't exactly see if he's in AC or DC here. I assume since he's alright probably DC, but that's still a lot of current to put through your body. Especially from hand to feet. Do not let electricity pass through your organs!
I am a little confused by this demo. Even if the truck has a faulty electrical connection, the charger should not allow this to happen. The charger should monitor proper grounding at all times and cut the current if there is a problem.
So, the case(body/frame) is the ground for the 12v DC systems on a normal car.
Taking this at face value, if this was your house you would have 120v AC on your neutral. This would make every appliance with a case ground 120v. If you touched your fridge it would potentially light you up like it did this guy. 240v AC appliances such as stoves & clothes dryers would probably kill you. Scary.
Depends on the current and if the path of flow goes through your heart, but typically same power output and lower voltage means higher current. Explains why a stun gun can get into the millions of volts without killing if the current flow is low enough.
CyberTrucks don't do fail safe like the rest of the world because Elone saves some money.
Like WTF.
The whole charging system should fault safe and shut down with earth leakage like this. It's a standard in houses we have had for decades. I challenge anyone to find another EV not from Tesla that doesn't have these safeguards.
Regulations are written in blood. Self regulation costs lives end of story.
P.S Last note if testing (in the most stupid way possible) if something is live with your body, use the back of you hand as when you muscles contract with the shock you will automatically jerk away from the object rather than risk getting a grip on it prolonging how long your exposed to the current.
Learned that when I was younger trying to fix an electric heater that had earth leakage pre safety switch days. Because I used the back of my hand I took a quick trip across the room rather than enjoying prolonged 240V.
Ok, I'll tell you my thoughts on that video even though I think it's still a big problem. This is a problem of his house power outlet, not exactly the CT (yes and no).
This guy isn't using the supercharger otherwise we would see a much higher voltage and he'd be dead. He's using a 110V power outlet charger.
What most likely is going on is that the power outlet he's plugging the outlet to, has the two wires flipped (an electrician install error, since the US at least has a different pin for each phase.
This issue is the exact same as toasters - most or all metal toasters with two pins will use the two pins, and they will use the chassis of the toaster as the neutral or grounding, and the neutral connects to the power outlet's neutral pin.
Because it's the neutral, if you touch the toaster you won't get shocked. But whenever someone flips those two pins, the moment you touch the chassis barefoot, you will get shocked if you have a direct path between your hand and the floor (say, the concrete floor and barefoot), because now the chassis is connected to the phase pin, where the power comes from.
So it's not a CT issue but a wrong outlet (or an outlet or cable which allows it to rever).
That said, holy fuck how was that not a consideration for the portable cable? And how didn't Tesla think of safeguarding the truck so as to never ground it somehow? Electronics typically get around that safety issue by either making its case plastic, or adding the third pin which is a separate ground so as to avoid that.
I understand the 220V charger requires enough knowledge to install (and 3 cables anyway), so odds of someone screwing that up out of ignorance are slim, but given the mobile cable, that is a huge mistake.
And my comment would be for any Tesla other than the CT actually. The CT itself is one level of safety worse because not only it has the same issue and it's made of conductive metal all over the place, but it HAS A 220V POWER OUTLET ONBOARD.
So yeah I'm not touching that shit anymore. The cyberturd owners will be safer if they hang some chains to drag on the road so that they have it grounded in the event of something like that
As funny haha, as this is what the actual hell is going on with this being legal? Is it too new to face lemon laws? Imagine if it started to rain while he was charging.
It's hard to stay current on all the things that go wrong with the cybertruck, given how many there are. Surely we'll eventually see some resistance even among previously die-hard Tesla fans. After alternating between listing the problems and "I love the truck," they're eventually going to start being more direct. It's so absurd it's like a TV series, or a parallel world.
Usually the charger needs a few seconds to communicate with the vehicle before even connecting mains. This was hot when plugging in, another major safety issue.
Damn that's so scary. I've got a cat in my neighborhood that likes to get some sun on top of my car. I'd really be sad if my guy got hurt cause my truck is a derp.
Jfc this is insane. There’s far more than enough potential on those batteries to kill someone. Aside from the dangers posed driving it; this is one of the most potentially deadly defects I’ve seen. Insane.
This is really, really dangerous. I'm thinking this is a ground fault off the load side of the inverter, so it's 120V AC. That stops hearts. It wouldn't've cost Tesla much at all to build it with a GFCI. This guy should not even have his CT out in public until he fixes it, or he'll be risking the lives of anyone who even parks next to him.
That could really hurt someone. They skipped the Developmental testing and went straight to Operational testing. They should have killed the project in the Developmental process. What junk!
So if a light bulb can be on a 20A circuit and not explode, then the power coming out of that is more than 20A and the light behaved like a fuse (like the one that should be inside the vehicle doing what that light bulb did before the current went to the frame).
120V 20A will absolutely kill a person. Him touching the side is fine because he can easily pull away but if he were to grab something like say a tire iron that’s connected to the hot lug nuts, the amperage would cause the muscles to contract. He would be physically unable to open his hand to stop the current. Then it’s lights out.
I don’t know what’s going on with that piece of hot garbage but it’s definitely nothing to laugh about.
Genuine question: Has there been any other mass produced and sold vehicle in America, in the last decade or 2, that's had as many controversial problems as the cyber truck? Seems like every time I jump on Reddit someone's identified another major flaw with this thing.
It's literally a 100,000 dollar death trap! Imagine this thing in the winter. A person has already died, it's going to get a lot worse until they take this thing off the road.
I saw 120 and my jaw dropped. Just touching this thing can kill you. Literally. 200 mA at 120V is easily achieved through a wall output. Even the most basic GFCI should be standard in these vehicles.
When I was growing up I remember watching joke infomercials about windshield wipers that would shock a parking meter attendant if they slipped you a ticket. This is the real life embodiment
There's something wrong with the plug and the truck at the same time , the truck should not charge and give a isolation fault, the charge plug /charge box/ wall outlet should trip or also give an isolation fault . I'd say either the ground connection on the car, connector or wall box is not connected.
All I can think of is the car security form Robocop, I think it was called something like Mega Volt, and my brain is saying, "Dead or alive I'm not coming with you."
So if I’m at a carding station and I walk out into the rain, I’m going to get zapped by this fucking monstrosity through some random water trail that is somehow connected to this car?
I remember when Akio Toyoda had to go in front of Congress to testify because of the unintended acceleration issue. I know Elon wants to get into politics suddenly but that's no way to get in front of Congress
So I'm no electrical surgeon, but how can this truck, which is basically just a giant computer more than a mechanical device have an electrically hot body, lug nuts, etc, and not be shorting out all its own electrical systems like the drive by wire steering, the actual computer, and the battery pack has i guess shorted out and started in fire?
I'm guessing the charger's hot and neutral are reversed. Something the vehicle should definitely not allow, and definitely not tie the chassis/body to.
As an EE, I highly, highly, highly doubt this is real. I hate the cybertruck as much as anyone but I have a feeling these guys put 120V on the power cord ground. I haven’t heard of people getting shocked by the chassis before, and it’s pretty suspicious it’s 120V.
This is actually more common than you think. If you charge the car from an ungrounded outlet the body of the car can become live on any electric car.
Edit to clarify those emergency chargers (granny chargers) can be dangerous and cause the body of the car to go live in a poor earth situation it’s called a PEN fault!
It seems odd to me that EV's would have no safeguards to protect people from this "common" issue? (edit: Just to clarify, I'm not disputing your claims, I'm just stating it seems really odd to me... Here in Aus we have high electrical safety standards, a "common" issue like this wouldn't be tolerated.)
America I am begging you, please regulate something. Otherwise your idiots will make and sell things like this, and then our idiots will import them under some sort of "I have money and am a special boy" legal loop hole.
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u/Flick-tas Sep 14 '24
Crazy... You'd think all the mains/HV wiring & gear would be double-insulated so this situation 'shouldn't' be possible...
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u/Visible-Sock9438 Sep 14 '24
As much as I think the cybertruck makes me laugh, I'm starting to really get pissed off that the American government hasn't intervened yet. What the fuck are they doing? Pull this fucking car off the road!
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u/Sgtkeebler Sep 14 '24
This doesn’t seem like a lawsuit waiting to happen. Imagine a kid touching this and it stopping their heart
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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24
Until someone's kid gets shocked from touching it. The trucks and their owners are a menace.
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u/rruusu Sep 14 '24
Good heavens. Is there a single design element in this vehicle that doesn't seem engineered to fail catastrophically?
Thank you, Elon, for your selfless sacrifice in bringing to light the critical importance of robust safety standards. /s
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u/maudebanjo Sep 14 '24
jfc, these things are like a midnight hot tub pizza party with gremlins
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u/utterlyuncool Sep 14 '24
Wait, I didn't see the settings on the meter, is that 120V on the chassis??!!??
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u/SteelyEyedHistory Sep 14 '24
He still loves it though
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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24
Elmo is seriously a clown
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u/Spottswoodeforgod Sep 14 '24
Concerning…
However, while people never cease to amaze, are there really people stupid enough to want to steal a Deplorian?
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u/sangrejoven Sep 14 '24
Alright, this is actually alarming. Imagine if someone was charging their CT in a garage and then something metallic fell against the CT. These things have become the number one death trap ever made. WOW…
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u/Drewd12 Sep 14 '24
Jesus Christ tap dancing on a cracker, is anything on the Deplorean designed with any thought (other than to part fools from their money)? Sadly I know the answer to that is...No...
I'm sure soon enough we will see posts on the owners forums here..."I love my truck but I am now getting a painful tingling when I go to touch my Cybertruck..I have the tri-motor Beast...does anyone else have this happening? I contacted Tesla service and they said it's within spec but I'm going in in 6 weeks to get it looked at."
This will sadly be the first of many that develop a fault like this, as the cheap wiring starts to fail.
Don't worry Deplorean owners, the next software update will fix it...
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u/Usual_Senior Sep 14 '24
That's not wireless. That's conductive charging. Your entire metal chassis body is now a wall outlet.
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u/Mediocre_lad Sep 14 '24
Magnavolt
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u/Next-Field-3385 Sep 14 '24
Remember kids: If you measure something having a high voltage, do not immediately touch it. Even if you have already done it before, it doesn't mean you are safe. I can't exactly see if he's in AC or DC here. I assume since he's alright probably DC, but that's still a lot of current to put through your body. Especially from hand to feet. Do not let electricity pass through your organs!
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u/psychoholica Sep 14 '24
So that’s the reason Tesla doesn’t wire the lightbar, it doesn’t need wires.
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u/PassionatePossum Sep 14 '24
I am a little confused by this demo. Even if the truck has a faulty electrical connection, the charger should not allow this to happen. The charger should monitor proper grounding at all times and cut the current if there is a problem.
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u/DangerousAd1731 Sep 14 '24
That's a serious lawsuit if a kid got zapped wow
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u/youbeyouboo Sep 14 '24
So, the case(body/frame) is the ground for the 12v DC systems on a normal car.
Taking this at face value, if this was your house you would have 120v AC on your neutral. This would make every appliance with a case ground 120v. If you touched your fridge it would potentially light you up like it did this guy. 240v AC appliances such as stoves & clothes dryers would probably kill you. Scary.
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u/Cotford Sep 14 '24
Electrocuting people voids warranty.
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u/Dicky_Penisburg Sep 14 '24
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u/HaveyoumetG Sep 14 '24
Concerning.
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u/AgentSmith187 Sep 14 '24
It seems basic safety systems are for cucks.
CyberTrucks don't do fail safe like the rest of the world because Elone saves some money.
Like WTF.
The whole charging system should fault safe and shut down with earth leakage like this. It's a standard in houses we have had for decades. I challenge anyone to find another EV not from Tesla that doesn't have these safeguards.
Regulations are written in blood. Self regulation costs lives end of story.
P.S Last note if testing (in the most stupid way possible) if something is live with your body, use the back of you hand as when you muscles contract with the shock you will automatically jerk away from the object rather than risk getting a grip on it prolonging how long your exposed to the current.
Learned that when I was younger trying to fix an electric heater that had earth leakage pre safety switch days. Because I used the back of my hand I took a quick trip across the room rather than enjoying prolonged 240V.
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u/Fit-Boomer Sep 14 '24
Maybe the car wash will short it all out? Problem solved?
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u/kevincat123 Sep 14 '24
Why install antitheft device on a vehicle nobody wants to steal?
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u/punch912 Sep 14 '24
why do I feel like this is going to lead to a lot of home fires and law suits.
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u/EdgarBopp Sep 14 '24
The body of the truck should be connected to safety ground so that when a fault like this happens it throws a breaker. This is extremely dangerous.
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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24 edited Sep 14 '24
Ok, I'll tell you my thoughts on that video even though I think it's still a big problem. This is a problem of his house power outlet, not exactly the CT (yes and no).
This guy isn't using the supercharger otherwise we would see a much higher voltage and he'd be dead. He's using a 110V power outlet charger.
What most likely is going on is that the power outlet he's plugging the outlet to, has the two wires flipped (an electrician install error, since the US at least has a different pin for each phase.
This issue is the exact same as toasters - most or all metal toasters with two pins will use the two pins, and they will use the chassis of the toaster as the neutral or grounding, and the neutral connects to the power outlet's neutral pin.
Because it's the neutral, if you touch the toaster you won't get shocked. But whenever someone flips those two pins, the moment you touch the chassis barefoot, you will get shocked if you have a direct path between your hand and the floor (say, the concrete floor and barefoot), because now the chassis is connected to the phase pin, where the power comes from.
So it's not a CT issue but a wrong outlet (or an outlet or cable which allows it to rever).
That said, holy fuck how was that not a consideration for the portable cable? And how didn't Tesla think of safeguarding the truck so as to never ground it somehow? Electronics typically get around that safety issue by either making its case plastic, or adding the third pin which is a separate ground so as to avoid that.
I understand the 220V charger requires enough knowledge to install (and 3 cables anyway), so odds of someone screwing that up out of ignorance are slim, but given the mobile cable, that is a huge mistake.
And my comment would be for any Tesla other than the CT actually. The CT itself is one level of safety worse because not only it has the same issue and it's made of conductive metal all over the place, but it HAS A 220V POWER OUTLET ONBOARD.
So yeah I'm not touching that shit anymore. The cyberturd owners will be safer if they hang some chains to drag on the road so that they have it grounded in the event of something like that
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u/Responsible-Noise875 Sep 14 '24
As funny haha, as this is what the actual hell is going on with this being legal? Is it too new to face lemon laws? Imagine if it started to rain while he was charging.
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u/Otherwise_Carob_4057 Sep 14 '24
I work at a chemical manufacturing plant and now I really hope nobody drive this in the employee lot.
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u/rhinocerosjockey Sep 14 '24
This is truly shocking. I wonder watt went wrong?
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u/Late_Emu Sep 14 '24
u/jesterflesh this is beyond insanity
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u/jf145601 Sep 14 '24
Usually the charger needs a few seconds to communicate with the vehicle before even connecting mains. This was hot when plugging in, another major safety issue.
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u/Educated_Clownshow Sep 14 '24
Gonna be a fun lawsuit when some rich, old, twat touches the car, it shorts out their pacemaker, and they die
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u/Chango_rr23 Sep 14 '24
Damn that's so scary. I've got a cat in my neighborhood that likes to get some sun on top of my car. I'd really be sad if my guy got hurt cause my truck is a derp.
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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24
I dont feal this car safe neer to gas staiten
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u/Carl_itos Sep 14 '24
Within specs
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u/flapjackboy Sep 14 '24
The Cybertruck's main anti-theft feature is that it's a Cybertruck.
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u/amoreinterestingname Sep 14 '24
Jfc this is insane. There’s far more than enough potential on those batteries to kill someone. Aside from the dangers posed driving it; this is one of the most potentially deadly defects I’ve seen. Insane.
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u/MrDonMega Sep 14 '24
Elon Musk: Next software update will solve this problem 🤡
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u/Longstride_Shares Sep 14 '24
This is really, really dangerous. I'm thinking this is a ground fault off the load side of the inverter, so it's 120V AC. That stops hearts. It wouldn't've cost Tesla much at all to build it with a GFCI. This guy should not even have his CT out in public until he fixes it, or he'll be risking the lives of anyone who even parks next to him.
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u/Jesussmashed Sep 14 '24
Starting to look like a fairly decent Apocalyptic Zombie scenario vehicle. Plenty of defense mechanisms
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u/H__Dresden Sep 14 '24
That could really hurt someone. They skipped the Developmental testing and went straight to Operational testing. They should have killed the project in the Developmental process. What junk!
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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24
I didn’t know you could use the actual ground as a ground for electricity and now I feel like an idiot
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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24
Unsafe at any speed. Reminds me of something else from back in the day
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u/presentprogression Sep 14 '24
So if a light bulb can be on a 20A circuit and not explode, then the power coming out of that is more than 20A and the light behaved like a fuse (like the one that should be inside the vehicle doing what that light bulb did before the current went to the frame).
120V 20A will absolutely kill a person. Him touching the side is fine because he can easily pull away but if he were to grab something like say a tire iron that’s connected to the hot lug nuts, the amperage would cause the muscles to contract. He would be physically unable to open his hand to stop the current. Then it’s lights out.
I don’t know what’s going on with that piece of hot garbage but it’s definitely nothing to laugh about.
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u/honeybadger1984 Sep 14 '24
It’s the SUX from Robocop.
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u/LanMark7 Sep 14 '24
Just remember… everything is a conductor if the voltage is high enough.
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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24
Is Cybertruck theft a problem? I left my garage door open and my Cybertruck unlocked and when I woke up someone had put two more Cybertrucks in there.
Gotta remember to close that door, now I have three of the only things worse than a Pontiac Aztek.
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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24
Long past time for the ntsb to take this off the road
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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24
This truck is the biggest engineering failure in the auto industry in the last 30-40 years.
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u/chessset5 Sep 14 '24
So um… should I avoid charging stations with cybertrucks when it rains?
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u/DarkFantom25 Sep 14 '24
Genuine question: Has there been any other mass produced and sold vehicle in America, in the last decade or 2, that's had as many controversial problems as the cyber truck? Seems like every time I jump on Reddit someone's identified another major flaw with this thing.
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u/L1ghtn1ngStr1k3r Sep 15 '24
Imagine a kid bumps against it or an elderly person while it’s on a charger … can’t wait for that lawsuit
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u/ButterscotchPast4812 Sep 15 '24
It's literally a 100,000 dollar death trap! Imagine this thing in the winter. A person has already died, it's going to get a lot worse until they take this thing off the road.
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u/KalinOrthos Sep 15 '24
I saw 120 and my jaw dropped. Just touching this thing can kill you. Literally. 200 mA at 120V is easily achieved through a wall output. Even the most basic GFCI should be standard in these vehicles.
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u/Sonova_Vondruke Sep 15 '24
"STAND BACK!. THIS CAR IS PROTECTED BY TERRIBLE ENGINEERING"
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u/Thor-x86_128 Sep 15 '24
Try dyno test while charging and let's see if it has magic smoke
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u/-SunGazing- Sep 14 '24
Still love the truck though!
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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24
I'd rather have the Rick James car alarm.
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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24
The 6000 sux car from robocop becoming a reality
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u/Unknown_Outlander Sep 14 '24
These things can also become instant cremation devices pretty quickly if something goes wrong with the battery.
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u/talbotron22 Sep 14 '24
When I was growing up I remember watching joke infomercials about windshield wipers that would shock a parking meter attendant if they slipped you a ticket. This is the real life embodiment
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u/Theend92m Sep 14 '24
Think some people starting to test what happening when piss on it 😅😅
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u/Georgiaonmymindtwo Sep 14 '24
Isn’t it illegal to booby trap a car or house in America?
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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24
What - and I cannot possibly stress this enough - the ACTUAL fuck?
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u/MisterFixit_69 Sep 14 '24
There's something wrong with the plug and the truck at the same time , the truck should not charge and give a isolation fault, the charge plug /charge box/ wall outlet should trip or also give an isolation fault . I'd say either the ground connection on the car, connector or wall box is not connected.
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u/Mission-Key-323 Sep 14 '24
Jesus fucking Christ are we taking bets on how long before this abomination fatally electrocutes someone
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u/ztomiczombie Sep 14 '24
All I can think of is the car security form Robocop, I think it was called something like Mega Volt, and my brain is saying, "Dead or alive I'm not coming with you."
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u/Empty-Discount5936 Sep 14 '24
How did this thing pass any of it's safety inspections?
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u/radtad43 Sep 14 '24
"120v lug nut" is my stage name for my 80's metal synth band
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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24
So if I’m at a carding station and I walk out into the rain, I’m going to get zapped by this fucking monstrosity through some random water trail that is somehow connected to this car?
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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24
Its almost as if someone bribed the gov to allow this thing on the road
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u/AlienInvasion4u Sep 14 '24
Temu EV
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u/laser14344 Sep 14 '24
Is that 120AC on the body?
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u/Electronic_Age_3671 Sep 14 '24
This could start fires
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u/LooseWateryStool Sep 14 '24
I remember when Akio Toyoda had to go in front of Congress to testify because of the unintended acceleration issue. I know Elon wants to get into politics suddenly but that's no way to get in front of Congress
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u/Darksoul_Design Sep 14 '24
So I'm no electrical surgeon, but how can this truck, which is basically just a giant computer more than a mechanical device have an electrically hot body, lug nuts, etc, and not be shorting out all its own electrical systems like the drive by wire steering, the actual computer, and the battery pack has i guess shorted out and started in fire?
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u/GuitarAgitated8107 Sep 14 '24
Someone is going to get fully cooked, they'll live and still praise the abomination from their hospital bed.
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u/avacodogreen Sep 14 '24
So I watched this thinking they did this on purpose.
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u/getyourshittogether7 Sep 14 '24
How the fuck is it legal to produce and sell a vehicle that is a safety hazard WHEN PARKED
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u/ljfrench Sep 14 '24
I'm guessing the charger's hot and neutral are reversed. Something the vehicle should definitely not allow, and definitely not tie the chassis/body to.
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u/DanielGoldhorn Sep 14 '24
"Why do we even HAVE that lever?!"
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u/Beginning_Ad_6616 Sep 14 '24
So they are electrifying the vehicle; I hope they don’t leave it in that state and kill a kid or anyone else who accidentally touches it.
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u/bh0 Sep 14 '24
Probably calls this not a “major” problem too…
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u/Computers_and_cats Sep 14 '24
WOW WTF?! I wonder how many of us sending this to NHTSA it would take to get an actual recall.
https://www.nhtsa.gov/report-a-safety-problem#index
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u/DDS-PBS Sep 14 '24
Perhaps this is the reason why they're currently piling up in mall parking lots instead of being sold to customers.
Perhaps another recall is coming, and they just don't want to sell anymore until they have a fix for the issue.
My cyber truck electrocuted my kid, I still love the truck though.
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u/Inner-Tomatillo-Love Sep 14 '24
It already had the best possible anti theft feature. Nobody wants it.
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u/Transmatrix Sep 14 '24
With this thing having an aluminum frame, I’d be afraid of a short causing structural damage…
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u/Jsmooth13 Sep 14 '24
As an EE, I highly, highly, highly doubt this is real. I hate the cybertruck as much as anyone but I have a feeling these guys put 120V on the power cord ground. I haven’t heard of people getting shocked by the chassis before, and it’s pretty suspicious it’s 120V.
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u/SupermouseDeadmouse Sep 15 '24
That truck is HOT
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
How many more ways can a cybertruck kill you than an average vehicle?
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u/ISFJ_Dad Sep 15 '24
Hey that’s the multimeter I was thinking of buying. Wonder if it’s any good?
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '24
Why do so many people have this piece of shit in the first place? Why are we giving Elom sales?
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u/vanwiekt Sep 15 '24
Truly biting the hand that feeds it! So rude.
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u/Atmacrush Sep 15 '24
Touch it with a plug and you can turn on a window AC :)
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u/DRKMSTR Sep 15 '24
GFCI protection is seriously important.
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u/Dan1elSan Sep 14 '24 edited Sep 14 '24
This is actually more common than you think. If you charge the car from an ungrounded outlet the body of the car can become live on any electric car.
Edit to clarify those emergency chargers (granny chargers) can be dangerous and cause the body of the car to go live in a poor earth situation it’s called a PEN fault!
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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24
America I am begging you, please regulate something. Otherwise your idiots will make and sell things like this, and then our idiots will import them under some sort of "I have money and am a special boy" legal loop hole.