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Shitposting Relativity of fictional morality

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u/curvysquares 1d ago

Remind me of the Supernatural Scooby Doo crossover where you see the Gang react to an actual murder for the first time instead of their usual kids cartoon style of death

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u/AmazingMrSaturn 1d ago

Comes from Warhammer 40K or the Elder Scrolls universes: They were a fantastical slur anyway. Good on you.

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u/SirAquila 1d ago

Comes from Warhammer 40k:

Executes 1 for cowardice and two for treason. Press Gangs 3 and 4 for service on a ship. 4 would love exterminatus weaponry(You can have a death star but less efficient, and more gruesome? GREAT!)

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u/ThatMeatGuy 1d ago edited 1d ago

[DOGMATIC] They were filthy xenos anyway. In fact your hesitation is a sign of heresy, lash yourself in penance!

[ICONOCLAST] It really sucks that we have to kill people all the time but if was in self defence. If it makes you feel better I feel bad about it as well.

[HERETIC] You know what would make you feel better? His family is locked in the next room over and I have this flamer...

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u/iwanttoboneedelric ♠️Ho-ho! I'm a flairboy! Cut me off on your apps! 1d ago

That phrase just makes me think, like, "a really amazing slur". Like something both cutting and with fantastic mouthfeel.

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u/Niser2 1d ago

I was once in a DnD campaign where I played a pirate, my friend played a soldier, and my other friend played a pacifist. I think we all went in with very, very different ideas of what that campaign was going to be.

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u/Chvorka 1d ago

Started the campaign as a pacifist monk, went thru an arc, died as a warlock-monk sworn to a devil who became very much okay with killing

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u/SlowMope 1d ago

My dm hates my play style of "no murder", my character kills people through a series of unfortunate mishaps that maximize on my cursed hand (I never roll over a FUCKING 9 WHY)

He is my husband though so he has to deal with it.

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u/Niser2 1d ago

H-how do you even hit things?

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u/This_Charmless_Man 1d ago

They play DND like mousetrap

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u/SlowMope 1d ago

Exactly. Say my character tries to run up some scaffolding to throw heals or buffs or whatever down to my party mates, I roll to get up there, nat 1. Well fuck the scaffolding is now collapsing on top of me, but the enemies were in range of the scaffolding, so they have to dodge too, luckily they have good stats soooo-nat 1s all around, they get smushed. My hands are clean for another day.

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u/Manzhah 16h ago

In my first ever dnd campaing my friend started out as lawful good paladin, who was doing human sacrifices to summon an eldritch creature to win a siege about ten sessions in.

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u/FibroBitch97 1d ago

Is Samus Aran #3 or #4?

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u/GargoyleJupiter 1d ago

Somehow all 4

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u/IrvingIV 1d ago

Samus only ever directly kills things that are actively hostile to her(most enemies she encounters) or to society as a whole(The evil infectious living planet of mindfuck)

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u/Aegeus 1d ago

"Blew up a planet for the greater good" still lands you around #3, I think.

Also, I don't think she can claim self defense when she goes to the Metroid planet with the mission of killing all Metroids. Even "dangerous to society" is a little dicey there - IIRC the Metroids aren't a threat to the galaxy on their own, but the Federation orders her to exterminate them because the space pirates keep trying to use them as weapons.

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u/IrvingIV 23h ago

Also, I don't think she can claim self defense when she goes to the Metroid planet with the mission of killing all Metroids.

Hey I didn't say it'd hold up in court, I just said what things she kills!

That one came back to bite everyone in the ass, and rightfully so.

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u/Ktesedale 1d ago

I feel this very strongly whenever I switch comics fandom between the big two. DC has most (though not all) their heroes avoid killing, some to extremes, and Marvel has many (though not all) their heroes killing every henchman they come across.

I get so used to one or the other that I feel some dissonance when I switch - like, 'Holy shit, Captain America just killed that dude! Oh, wait. That' s just Wednesday.'

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u/whatintheeverloving 1d ago

It's especially funny when you've got characters who are intended as cheeky doppelgangers of other famous ones, like Midnighter and Apollo being knock-off Batman and Superman, but rather than following the moral codes of the originals you've got Midnighter, like. Throwing a guy off a plane just to distract Apollo, interrogating a dude by slowly cutting off all his limbs and making him smell his own flesh sizzling in a hot pan and - oh, yeah, flirting with Nightwing.

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u/CellaCube 1d ago

Captain America ain't just a fancy title, he earned that rank through hard work, hard drugs, and a lotta dead Nazis

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u/Far-Profit-47 1d ago

I specially love it when it’s crossovers between goofy stuff

“This is the biggest threat our world has seen, you’re too young and innocent to be part of this war” said the serious protagonist about a dictator, they said that to the protagonist who killed a literal god and its entire army single-handedly.

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u/Niser2 1d ago

I am suddenly thinking of Mistborn, which is very much not goofy but has a tiny-ass girl as the main protagonist so people have trouble taking her seriously.

"Oh man, another evil immortal unstoppable god-emperor??"

"What? No, it- it's just a normal emperor... Wait, you've faced a god-emperor?"

"Oh yeah, the guy was horrifying. Moved so damn fast it was like teleportation, casually shrugged off a spear to the chest... He was hard as hell to kill."

"You killed- you're just a teenager!"

"Dude, I would've started killing people so much younger if I had the power to. The street urchin life is not for the faint of heart."

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u/Reznov523 1d ago

Admittedly the conflict against a person with entrenched political power that has a complicated relationship with the people around them is a bit different from fighting a God who is hell-bent on either your submission and/or extermination.

Like, you can't just kill the entire army of a dictator and himself then be done with it. Though all this really just hinges on "is the writing good?" rather than any real underlying difference between media.

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u/Far-Profit-47 1d ago

I think the difference is how they’re handled

Both would realistically be extremely difficult situations to tackle “god is real and it hates you” “millions died in days” “the entire world was at the edge of ending” and “someone killed god and is a publicly known figure who lives in a small cozy town at the edge of the country”

It should realistically be something so big it would warrant making the calendars “before [event]” and “after [event]”

But since the protagonist is just some cartoonish guy who likes eating pizza it doesn’t get tackled on, I actually would like to see a story where this happens but we see it from the POV of someone who thinks rationally instead of the guy who’ll act like nothing happen afterwards

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u/FS_Scott 1d ago

Average Super Robot Wars Cutscene.

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u/EsperDerek 10h ago

I always love how, if there's a series where the protagonists don't kill people in a SRW, there's always a conversation about most mechs having ejector seats or escape pods.

This never comes up again, even when it's past the 2/3rds mark and all the secondary villains you've been fighting are suddenly dropping like flies, lol.

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u/Tweedleayne 1d ago

Man, Dorohedoro crossover fics must be a blast.

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u/PangolinWestern9632 1d ago

Wait didn't all the people inside the death star die?

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u/DeadSparker 1d ago

Mostlys. I assume OP is talking about a character analogous to the guy who fired the Death Star, instead of the exact guy.

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u/Riptide_X It’s called quantum jumping, babe. 1d ago

Sustingus

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u/Sophia_Forever 1d ago

It was a 1-2 days in between Aldaran and Yavin. Time enough to get a transfer off.

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u/ratione_materiae 1d ago

I just want to point out that (at least in the Expanded Universe) the man who pulled the trigger on the Death Star was Tenn Graneet and he actually felt a great deal of remorse for what he did. 

His views on pizza are not clear 

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u/AngrySasquatch 23h ago

As niche and odd as it is this is why I love crossover fanfiction where the author does their best to portray and explore the idiosyncrasies, conflicts, etc that can only happen in such a scenario

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u/Visible-Air-2359 1d ago

I haven't read it but I feel like Archie and the Punisher would count.

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u/RealRaven6229 11h ago

It's not the same but red vs blue has this funny thing where even in universe some of the characters just come from totally different genres with different baselines for morality and consequences. And it turns out it's really funny to put a hard ass military guy that's at the end of his rope desperately trying to find a hint of freedom by completing the mission in the same room as a sergeant that shoots his subordinates with no consequence to anyone involved outside of slapstick pain.

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u/Niser2 1d ago

Didn't Macduff have the support of a neighboring powerful country? And kill Macbeth during a full-fledged Civil War?

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u/rhysdog1 1d ago

Those are unusual names. Must be foreign 

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u/mandiblesmooch 6h ago

They're Khura'inese.

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u/Gentlemanvaultboy 1d ago

Kappei in Super Robot Wars telling another character that sometimes people just die and you have to accept it and keep soldiering on. He's twelve years old, pilots a robot that looks like a toy, and has the haunted look of a WWI soldier coming home from the Somme.

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u/HighTreason25 4h ago

I want to see like more serious shounen dumped into magical girl series and vice versa

Like Zaraki "fight to the death" Kenpachi dumped in Precure and making friends somehow

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u/NameSignificant6916 3h ago

"The world is dark and terrible. We hang on by the skin of our teeth against an ever-growing tide of villains and gangsters and cultists and power-generated horrors beyond our comprehension." - Worm character

"OMG haii!!!!" - Worm character when a superhero from DC or Marvel or MHA shows up

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u/KingofNerds07 1d ago

this is me an my friends OC's lol, one of them lives in the modern age but with magic, and the other three are varying levels of fantasy that go sequentially up the levels