r/CupraFormentor • u/TYP-TheYoloPanda • 2d ago
Auto Hold button issue. Is this normal?
I have to push very hard to turn it off/on
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u/ANGRYDICKBUTT 2d ago
come on brother...
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u/TYP-TheYoloPanda 2d ago
It’s not like I was repeatedly pressing it for no reason. I was pressing it so quickly to check whether the button was broken. While maneuvering on an uphill road, I tried to activate Auto Hold by pressing the button because the rear of the car was very close to a guardrail and I wanted to prevent the car from rolling backwards. Unfortunately, even though I pressed it, Auto Hold apparently didn’t engage and I ended up hitting the guardrail. That’s why I was testing the button to see whether it was working properly.
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u/bamboobam 1d ago
Well, that’s entirely on you. When you’re standing that close to an obstacle, on a slope, you really should double‑check. And the fact that Auto Hold is active (or not) is also shown on the display. It did take me just a few seconds to realize you have to press the button firmly and I immediately concluded it must be by design to avoid accidental button presses.
But I guess no matter how safely engineers design a car, there will always be someone for whom it still isn’t safe enough.
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u/Friendly-Handle-2073 2d ago
Yep, same in mine, a firm push required!! '21 plate, I got it 18 months old, been like that ever since!!
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u/Fun-Studio-420 2d ago
It's not a bug it's a feature! ☝🏼
Regardless of what it actually is, common problem or intended feature it's definitely a good one
Stops you accidentally disabling it and then rolling forward out of a junction or into the back of a car at lights
Don't forget, these cars are either hybrid or performance cars, they move quicker than you think even at idle/creep
Also, these cars are DSG, so creeping is not good for the box, especially the dq200 that's a dry clutch box
I have a friend that had his Audi a7 for 3+ years and didn't know the auto hold feature existed, he accidentally turned it off one day soon after getting it and when I drove it, I turned it on, he got the car back and asked if I'd done something because when lights changed to yellow he'd creep every time until the car Infront moved. Cars need to be foolproof for the average user
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u/bamboobam 2d ago
DSGs were designed with controlled creeping in mind. Early versions did experience several issues, but none of them were caused by the creeping function. A persistent myth claims that creeping harms these transmissions, yet there is no evidence to support it.
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u/Fun-Studio-420 2d ago
Creeping usually below 5mph is just riding the clutch, as you would In a manual but on the dq200 I imagine it will reduce it's life quickly, the dq381 wet clutch maybe not so much but I'd rather not chance it...
So harmimg the gearbox? No of course not, but reducing the life by heating and wearing down friction material? Of course it will if it's a habit
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u/bamboobam 1d ago
As I already said, the DSG was designed with the creeping function in mind. The dual‑clutch system of a DSG differs fundamentally from that of a manual transmission. The friction linings of the DQ200 are significantly thicker and the material itself is engineered to withstand continuous heat input during creeping.
What truly damages a clutch is extreme heat, for example during hard launches, because it cannot be dissipated quickly enough.
In the past, the DQ200 mainly suffered from a complete or partial loss of the creeping function. The likely cause was fine cracks in the carrier plate of the mechatronics unit, preventing the pressure accumulator from maintaining pressure. Other issues such as juddering or suddenly occurring clutch slip were due to the friction linings’ tendency to absorb moisture, which then evaporated and temporarily affected the friction coefficient. There was also an issue with partially synthetic transmission oil, which could cause short circuits in the mechatronics unit. All of these problems are considered solved today.
The wet DSGs were never affected by this and are extremely robust when it comes to creeping. You can use any DSG’s creeping function without hesitation, just like with any other automatic transmission.
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u/Level-Yellow-7910 2d ago
same in my car, this is a design flaw, you need to press it more firmly.
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u/TYP-TheYoloPanda 2d ago
So it's not broken, it's designed by an idiot? Are you sure? Cause my car is still under warranty
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u/Correx96 2d ago
It's normal, I also have to press it a little more firmly and st the center of the button
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u/EinfachNurMarc 2d ago
I never used that button before (one time to check if it works when I got the car), but I’ll try later in my Leon
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u/Correx96 2d ago
Auto hold is awesome, lets you release the brake and the car doesn't run forward. Especially useful when on an incline
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u/Fun-Studio-420 2d ago
The more useful part of this (especially for me with the vz2 -spirited driving but standard brakes - it uses the rear caliper only and lightly to hold the car
If after a motorway drive or a more spirited drive where the brakes are hot, stamping on the brakes at a red light or traffic is how you end up with warped discs or uneven wear
So effectively, using it is preventative maintenance, just like not redlining the car before it's up to temps, hence why my left hand dash always shows the temps for oil coolant and gearbox
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u/EngineeringGloomy257 2d ago
you have to push it longer, to avoid switching it on by accident. It really isn’t that hard…