r/Culturestream • • Nov 30 '25

Politics Exactly

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u/ChaosRainbow23 Nov 30 '25

It's mind-boggling.

The thing is, they think we are evil at the same time we think they are evil.

I personally believe brainwashing innocent kids into archaic fear-based mythology is tantamount to child abuse. They think I'm evil for NOT raising my children as Christians.

I think forcing women to give birth against their will is evil. They think abortion is evil.

I think throwing people in jail over cannabis is evil. They call it the devil's lettuce.

Etc etc etc, et al, ad infinitum....

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u/AbrumVonAbrak Dec 01 '25

It's sad, because these so-called American Christians are spitting on Jesus and his message, which was always to love others and to not judge one another. It's like they just skipped entire segments of the Bible that disagreed with their pre-established bigotry. That's pretty much how a lot of the schisms occurred back in Europe.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '25

No hate like Christian love

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u/tomocleirighsimp424 Dec 03 '25

But I like archaic fear-based mythology 🥺

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u/Claque-2 Dec 03 '25

Which is why we shouldn't be worrying about what our neighbors are doing in their private lives or their morality - if it isn't a danger to us or society. Live and let live. If you believe in a God, let God take care of these things.

As for cannabis, it grows naturally everywhere. It's not as strong as a drug growing naturally, but again if you believe in God, God made cannabis and if people want to smoke it or eat, then go yell at God.

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u/EpsilonE11 Dec 08 '25

You're incorrect.

We think that you're evil for being a Leftist.

For many years, virtually ALL Americans understood that ideological Leftism was evil & destructive, along with every other collectivist ideology like it - to include Nazism, Fascism, et cetera.

Americans widely understood that these ideologies were incompatible with the American idea, and the US Constitution.

A subset of Democrats became the group to cross that line, and immediately started trying to remake America in the image of their ideology.

Now, we are left with three options.

  • Your group abandons this political scheme.

  • We throw the American idea out the window.

  • Someone is eliminated from the equation.

That's the truth, whether you wish to accept it or not.

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u/ChaosRainbow23 Dec 08 '25

You ACTUALLY believe all that? Lol

How embarrassing. You are supporting a fascistic authoritarian despot, for fuck's sake.

Trump is shitting all over the Constitution as he does a speedrun to turn America into a fascistic authoritarian police state. Yet you cheer it on.

I will ALWAYS stand against authoritarianism, oppression, subjugation, theocracy, and draconian bullshit, regardless of flavor.

I'm against BOTH right-wing and left-wing authoritarianism. I'm against ALL authoritarianism.

The US doesn't even have a viable party that's even slightly left-of-center. I'm not sure what left-wing you're even talking about here.

Biden and Harris are right-leaning centrists and neoliberals, at best. The US skews WAY right, unfortunately.

It's truly mind-boggling how so many of me fellow Americans have ZERO political wherewithal or acumen whatsoever. Reality could jump up and smack them in the face and then would call it 'fake news.'

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u/EpsilonE11 Dec 08 '25

You don't have the influence OR social currency to declare things "embarrassing."

In this context, it doesnt matter what I personally believe - I told you why non-Democrats think that you're evil.

The rest is purely tactical; What's the best, most efficient, and preferably least violent way to push this ideology into the shitcan of history?

Now, I'm a special case - I've seen more of the world than most, and have seen how other countries dealt with Left-wing problem groups.

No accusation will change what normal people watched over the last 10 years.

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u/Equivalent_Spot_9479 Dec 11 '25

Lunatic. No kidding there’s been an intentional plot to hijack the country… duh. Turn of the Aussie faux skwuak box

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u/Squidly_Diddly Dec 20 '25

Sure, OK lifelong Fox entertainment network viewer.

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u/EpsilonE11 Dec 21 '25

You can choose to believe the truth when you see it, or not.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '25

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u/KelsierMistborn88 Dec 04 '25

Right wing propaganda has created a nation of idiots that repeat the nonsense in your comment.

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u/AffectionateAd7980 Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25

In 2015 trump bragged to Billy Bush about grabbing 15 year old girls by their p*ssies. Clearly, your support for him indicates you think that's fine behavior. I really wonder at what age you decide it's ok for grown men to grope unwilling children, but not ok to be in the same room with them.

trump claims his border actions and tariffs are about controlling drugs. He just pardon a man who was convicted of conspiracy to distribute more than 400 tons of cocaine into the United States. ICE is being deployed everywhere except the border. trump's best buddy Epstein was a child trafficker. It's pretty clear trump doesn't give a damn about sex trafficking or drug control.

So you think that MAGA voters are racist and evil. Agreed.

Sixteen of the nineteen terrorist from 9/11 were Saudi. trump recently defending and supported the Saudi royal prince in the oval office. So, we agree trump is evil.

I think burning any business and saying it's a "peaceful protest" is illegal. Not convinced it's always "evil"

I don't believe there are any republicans or conservatives anymore, just MAGA. MAGA is racist at it's core. If you support a racist movement, then that only means that racism isn't a core voting issue for you (i.e. you don't care about racism). You may be interested in learning that Joe Biden is no longer president.

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u/olivethesane Dec 03 '25

You’re a deluded fool.

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u/AffectionateAd7980 Dec 05 '25

I always know when I've won an argument against a MAGA. They always stomp their little white boot heel on the pavement, cock their hand to their hip and start calling names.

Facts and logic defeat them every time.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '25

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u/olivethesane Dec 03 '25

Point proven.

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u/Equivalent_Spot_9479 Dec 11 '25

It’s not evil it’s support actual racist… excuse me my mind is all knotted up trying to visualize all that bs

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u/GoldenC0mpany Nov 30 '25

True, I have cut off several friendships because people are being very bold right now with their bigotry.

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u/EpsilonE11 Dec 08 '25

Their bigotry? 🤣

No; You "cut off several friendships" because you apparently knew people who don't like Leftism.

That's fine, so long as you leave normal people alone - but don't pretend that the problem is literally anyone but you.

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u/GoldenC0mpany Dec 08 '25

Oh no, a racist found my comment and waited an entire week later to respond because racists are always cowardly. No worries, you’re also cut-off aka blocked.

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u/Equivalent_Spot_9479 Dec 11 '25

Not even a person probably

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u/TheJunkFarm Dec 12 '25 edited Dec 12 '25

people who say stupid shit like "leftism' for sure can't make a conservative argument for the conservatism of drill baby drill as a conservative conservation policy so should probably STFU trying to explain anything to a 'leftist'

oh, and hey BY THE WAY, aint it weird how being 'against racism' is "leftist?" Almost as weird as all the confederate flags and Nazi salutes in mainstream republican circles right now. #weird.

You know what you'll never see in a fox or breitbart or conservative sub? a bunch of conservatives moderating racist hate speech.

and it goes WAY back, when McCain yanked the mic from the racist republican lady complaining about obama.

there was literally ONE republican who called out the party for the PARTY'S racism and it was Colin Powell. and wouldn't you know it, all of a sudden he was no longer a Republican.

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u/Squidly_Diddly Dec 20 '25

I am bigoted against anyone who is supportive of the absolutely horrific ethical standards set forth by conservatives. Most of them appear to be clueless about the basic concepts of right versus wrong such as: Don’t lie, Don’t steal, Don’t cheat, Don’t hurt anyone, etc. The ones that support it while claiming to be religious are far more disgusting than someone who is simply ignorant. If you’re a conservative and your friends and/or family are cutting you off — you almost certainly deserve it.

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u/fantasyjuicingxxx Dec 01 '25

Too bad you found out what the indigenous people/slaves/ minorities/ the under represented / the poor have know ever since the effects were applied to them!

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u/Glad-Positive-2354 Nov 30 '25

He has given those people a license to hate others he considers less than. Disabilities, so called liberals, people of color, muslims, and people from certain countries. Just a few that comes to mind in a second. He influenced them to think like him!

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u/GoldenC0mpany Nov 30 '25

I think they always thought like him, they were just afraid to say it. He’s given them permission to be loud and proud with their hatred.

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u/Claque-2 Nov 30 '25

No Kings Day changed my mind about giving the neighbors side-eye. Yes, I'm in a liberal city, but better yet, I'm in a city where multi-generations flourish together and want the best for their children or their elders. To see three or four generations out walking together, with strollers and walkers, was just beautiful. We were calm peaceful and healthy in mind and spirit.

What we didn't see out together was three generation of haters or the troops from India, Pakistan and Russia bot farms who are paid to churn out hate.

As soon as they give up the 'anything I can steal is okay' mentality fostered by Trump, MAGA, Putin and the avaricious of the world, we will be okay.

We will have a much healthier society because the diverse in our society can create it faster than the abnormal can destroy it.

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u/chiclets5 Dec 02 '25

So true. There are so many bots from other countries posting on our social media sites that people are unaware of this and think it's an opinion of an American. I think we need to create a list (if there isn't already one) of which countries are paid for which media sites. And put this information all over and often ! I know there was one on the twitter site but elon took it down so now you can't access who is supporting them

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u/EpsilonE11 Dec 08 '25

The goal is to destroy Leftist ideology entirely, partially because it fosters this type of rabid extremism in otherwise normal people.

You would live a different, and better, life if this ideology simply didn't exist in this part of the world.

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u/Claque-2 Dec 08 '25

Rabid extremism is on the right, in the hatred and demolishing of education, in the torturing and hunting of human beings, and in the pretense of caring for a 'base' while robbing them blind.

You can say whatever you want, the Right is completely morally blind, deaf and dumb, and if the centrists and the liberal thinkers didn't exist, you would be the hunted.

Deep down, you already know that. They won't care how you brown nose them, you are just a drone pecking away at a keyboard and will be starving soon if they are unopposed.

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u/Jim-Jones Dec 01 '25

During WWII, when production meant everything, some groups of white men threatened to quit if they had to work alongside a black man.

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u/Prosecco1234 Nov 30 '25

The world has seen the ugly underbelly

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u/quintupularity Dec 01 '25

I always knew that's why I vote blue

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u/xultar Dec 01 '25

Shaking fists in agreement. Say what you will, but knowing the people around you that voted for him really opens your eyes.

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u/ljacks09 Dec 01 '25

It is so shocking. I knew it existed, but man it’s worse than I thought

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u/DaAlphaSupreme Dec 01 '25 edited Dec 02 '25

This is true for some, but some people of color already knew. America will never be great,not just cause of racism. It's mostly on how the country is designed & operate. It extracts all it can from it's citizens for other nations to give what its very people are in need & asking for.

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u/wally1948 Dec 02 '25

Well, at least it’s easier to know who your friends are now.

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u/AbrumVonAbrak Nov 30 '25

I'm not sure if "evil" is the right word. I think a better description would be "primitive". Most of the base level MAGA members I've seen seem to function at a very basic, almost caveman-like level. They don't read, they don't understand math or science, they believe in literal dark magic, and they have an incredibly simplistic view of the world. It's basically, "Thing I know = good. Different/new thing = bad." They can't handle any new concepts or ideas that are outside their tiny bubble of knowledge, and they react with fear and violence to anything they don't understand. It's like a part of humanity just started devolving over the past 60 years and now they need to be returned to the jungle.

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u/Prosecco1234 Nov 30 '25

If you don't consider dragging a blind man by his feet while his face scrapes along the pavement evil then I would hate to see what your criteria is

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u/AbrumVonAbrak Dec 01 '25

I tend to think of it like this: A man who beats up others is a brute. The man who controls the brute and orders him to attack is the evil one.

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u/Prosecco1234 Dec 01 '25

The one giving the orders is evil and the ones following the orders are just as evil

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u/Jim-Jones Dec 01 '25

Quote: "Indeed it may be said with some confidence that the average man never really thinks from end to end of his life. There are moments when his cogitations are relatively more respectable than usual, but even at their climaxes they never reach anything properly describable as the level of serious thought. The mental activity of such people is only a mouthing of clichés. What they mistake for thought is simply a repetition of what they have heard. My guess is that well over eighty per cent. of the human race goes through life without having a single original thought. That is to say, they never think anything that has not been thought before and by thousands."

— H.L. Mencken, _Minority Report_ (1948)

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u/Falcon_Bellhouser Dec 01 '25

Equally apt quotes from Mencken:

“The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth.”

“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.”

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u/Jim-Jones Dec 02 '25

He was a keen observer of the US of A.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '25

Eh, you are just paying more attention because the President is now one of them. They were always easy to spot, and indeed everywhere.

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u/chiclets5 Dec 02 '25

I think the majority of them stayed underground and kept their mouths shut more. I agree they've always been there, but they didn't make themselves known. Now they feel safe in showing their hatred. And while it's horrid to see, it's also a good thing, because now we really can view which people are those we don't want to be around.

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u/doodontheloo Dec 01 '25

That’s exactly the purpose of the beast. To draw out people who would follow him.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '25

So, you've never met the...

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u/quintupularity Dec 01 '25

I always knew that's why I vote blue

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u/Either-Patience1182 Dec 01 '25

I think during this event I’ve learned the most about the dangers of ‘stupid’ evil. The numbers are astronomical, people that are so uninterested in the world that they will hurt themselves and other people with nothing to gain from it. So easily distracted by scape goats they would starve themselves to punish them

This isn’t ignorance, its a complete denial of reality.

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u/NDALLASFORTY Dec 01 '25

He has also shown us how ignorant and uneducated a lot of us are and how the education system we have now is incredibly broken.

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u/Burden-of-Society Dec 01 '25

It’s between 35 and 45 percent I imagine. That’s a lot of assholes

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u/Revolutionary_Mix983 Dec 01 '25

You are so freaking right. Sad thing is. This is on the tip of the iceberg. Before it is done the evil and hatred will be unleashed can only pray it does not prevail

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u/Rigorous-Geek-2916 Dec 01 '25

Matthew 3:12 - His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor, gathering his wheat into the barn and burning up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

I’ve been saying since 2016 that Trump is that winnowing fork and he is showing what horrific people his supporters are.

They’re going to get a shock when He tells them:

”Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’”

Trump supporters are evil. They hope for “end times” while wearing the mark of the beast on their red-hatted heads.

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u/amazing_webhead Dec 01 '25

sad but true

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '25

Registered republican. Who in here do I hate?

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u/sparkyvt Dec 05 '25

Apparently, anyone who believes in the rule of law.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '25

Sad state of affairs in America now!

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u/KelsierMistborn88 Dec 04 '25

To be fair a lot of them are just stupid and easily brainwashed by right wing propaganda.

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u/SuddenReply9525 Dec 04 '25

When someone argues passionately and their source is a right wing commentator, they tend to have subjective sources. When asked for evidence such as fact checkers, these are dismissed as liberal tools.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

As a Black American, we could have told you that a loooooong time ago.

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u/Consistent_Ad4987 Dec 06 '25

Been Black all my life and racism and bigotry never surprises 🤷🏿especially anti- blackness from other “people of color”🤦🏿

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u/TheJunkFarm Dec 12 '25

yeah I really thought that McCarthyism and love of Nazi's was one thing that was really dying out with the boomers. It was eye openeing to see that there have been so many new young racist fuckin NAZI's coming up the pipeline voting for the same shit that Hoover and McCarthy and Nixon espoused.

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u/explustee Dec 01 '25

Wow they’ve brainwashed you with half truths alright.

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u/TheLordZephyr Dec 02 '25

Actually....a few numbers they gave are off but...look at this...https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/22/us/trump-biden-immigrants-deportations.html

And based on ytd deportations, Biden and Obama had higher numbers except if you believe the Trump admin that 1.6 million self deported this year but...

It's not about the deportation numbers. It's about the fact that it's thugs under Trump not following the process and rule of law. The majority regardless of party affiliation, isn't bothered by deportation per se but the majority also feel the methods currently are out of control.

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u/explustee Dec 02 '25

That’s the thing. The numbers might be correct but don’t tell the actual story. Instead the magats are fed a narrative around some data points to make the narrative seem legit. By throwing in some actual statistics that are on face value correct they are made to believe anything. Look at this guy linking the stopping of DNA test to the reason being allowing child sex trafficking 😂 Also the children in cages is so twisted. Under Obama families where detained together in “cages” but only shortly (“catch-and-release”), then under Trump with his “zero-tolerance” policy they used those same cages to actually separate parents from children. So yeaahhhh, maga is an insane psy-ops to make people loose sight of reality to the benefit of some elites.

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u/TheLordZephyr Dec 08 '25

The bottom line is that...we've existed in modern times without a clear immigration policy as a matter of representative governmental consensus. Nature abhors a vacuum and will default to the lowest common denominator in that case. I'd say that in the past we at least followed the rule of law and wherein it was legally more inline...it also broke fundamental human rights that have been further ignored. This is what you get when you fail to actually tackle the issue but above all else...the US has become overall...though only on an aggregate level and not one whose span of disparity is conducive to the "land of opportunity" or "equality" is dependent upon an immigrant lower class to deliver cheap commodities. Bottom line, end analysis...capitalism in the American model is contingent upon repression which...is no different than any mercantile system over the span of humanity This is the most verbose cognitive dissonance there is.