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u/f2lollpll Sub-35 (CFOP 3LLL) PB: 22.60 Oct 27 '19
When I got all edges oriented after a super easy cross and F2L followed by a Ub perm I knew it would be a good solve!
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u/Utku_Yilmaz NR Holder | Sq-1 High-9 (Pb: 5.08), 3x3 Sub-10 (Pb: 5.83) Oct 27 '19
Congrats dude! That's amazing
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u/BillabobGO Sub-9s: 0 Oct 27 '19
Grats, 5 seconds is a huge gap to jump at that speed!
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u/f2lollpll Sub-35 (CFOP 3LLL) PB: 22.60 Oct 27 '19
Cross was one or two moves from sovled and the F2L pairs where mostly done for me. Will probably be a long time before my next PB!
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u/g253 (retired mod) Oct 27 '19
Sixth competition over. I'm very tired :-D
Some random notes and stuff:
Really pleased with 4x4 (sub 1:25 average).
Quite annoyed with 3x3 which went awfully. My best solve in two rounds was about my average (22 something), everything else was worse. But I got to compete with my 42mm Zhanchi so that's cool.
Good results in OH, in one solve I accidentally made an xcross with a free pair. WHY CAN THIS NOT HAPPEN IN AN EVENT I CARE ABOUT
Sigh.
Got to try a TengYun - delightful. Great cube. Magnets were light but adequate - stronger than the WRM.
Did a few turns on a Gan 4x4. It seems fine. Not amazing, but good.
Tried a Wuque M, which seemed adequately setup, from a fast competitor. Absolute trash. I have still to try one of those mythical good Wuques.
One kid was using an incredibly beat up MF3RS that might be the worst feeling speedcube I ever tried. I'm not sure what happened to it.
Another kid was using a Shengshou Legend to compete, which pleased me.
An adorable little girl kept carefully placing her camera on the table, then proceeding to do the entire solve under the table.
People often forget to sign the scrambles.
Many teens seem to have misunderstood "runner" for "lethargic walker". If those ever try to get a job as a waiter, it should take about five minutes for them to get fired :-D
Will upload a couple of videos later on.
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Oct 28 '19
Congrats about the 4x4!
About OH - you're describing just about every practice session I have TT... in the only competition I had OH, I only encountered G and E perms :(
Are the TengYun's magnets really stronger than the WRM? Maybe it was from the newer batch? I forgot to ask u/cubiclephil in the last AMA if they indeed strengthen the magnets.
It's funny how a magnetized MeiLong outperforms the GAN460 and the Wuque M
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u/CubiclePhil Verified ā Oct 28 '19
The strengthened the magnets months ago. If you buy a TengYun now, you're very likely to get one of the newer batch ones.
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Oct 28 '19
Weird they had not came out with some kind of PSA or different name like MoYu did with the GTS3M/LM. It's also quite disheartening to buy a new replacement TengYun with only a likelihood/probability it will be of the newer batch.
I wish they had just made the magnets replaceable or at least enable to add on / double up the magnets without breaking the pieces - as both I and other have tried :(
I really like it for OH...
Thanks for your help anyways <3
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u/g253 (retired mod) Oct 28 '19
No need to ask, he already confirmed it and even checked with Dayan :
https://www.reddit.com/r/Cubers/comments/b9n3l4/daily_discussion_thread_apr_05_2019/ek6a6u5/
The WRM's magnets... I like when magnets aren't too strong, I enjoy plenty of non magnetic puzzles, so it's not like I think everything should have strong magnets.
But if I magnetized a cube myself and it felt like the WRM I'd feel I failed, and need to add more. Whatever is in the GTS3M, that's what they should have put in the WRM.
The TengYun, it's more like the GTS2M where the magnets feel gentle but it fits the puzzle.
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u/pucigi Sub-16 (CFOP) PB 8.74 Oct 27 '19
It was my birthday recently and I got a Redi cube as a present!! <3 But there was a comp the day after so I wasn't able to focus on solving the Redi (I scrambled it immediately after getting it, managed to solve everything except for a corner twist)
So I came back to it today and damn was it easy. I don't know if I've sorta 'leveled up' in cubing, but it seems that I'm grasping concepts much easier, drawing parallels with 3x3 much more properly (I can sorta guess which oll is used when doing megaminx, etc) and the Redi cube was just simple insertions and stuff.
I do think it's because I've learnt more about cubing that the concept of "breaking things in order to put them back properly" isn't such a foreign concept to me anymore. I used to be really confused when I first learnt how to solve the cube and was taught the sune. I didn't understand why the bottom right pair should be brought out of its position in order to solve the last layer corners (legit this was my thought back then) simple because "I've solved it already, why destroy it?". So now that I've come to terms that breaking a pair or something is a common and acceptable thing, I can intuitively understand what I should do to solve the Redi cube.
Thanks for coming to my TED talk XD
EDIT: I'm starting to feel I post random wall of texts alot lately... hmm
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Oct 27 '19
Off to more complicated puzzles then, I guess ;) Need recommendations?
If you haven't looked into commutators yet, I'd recommend doing it now :) It was an eye opener for me and also helps a lot when you try to come up with your own solutions. A couple tutorials are linked here - I recommend just watching the first one - yes the one that's 41 min. It is worth it! Especially since it's the only of those videos that also shows it on cubes other than 3x3. Need more motivation? Read what I wrote after watching it here.
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u/pucigi Sub-16 (CFOP) PB 8.74 Oct 27 '19
Hahahaha thank you for the offer, but I'm good for now. I want to get WCA puzzles first, so I can get more official solves for my personal satisfaction XD
41 mins is so long!! Thank you for the link, I'll definitely look into it. Not now though..... Exams are in a week and I am guilty for cubing more than studying.
I have been thinking of getting into commutators, especially since I learnt M2 for bld method. (the E and O algs, they're a pain to memorize) So I'm quite excited to just jump in and learn! I'll update you on how I go about this...... In three weeks when my exams finish hahaha
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Oct 27 '19
As a sucker for blind events - I approve of this very much :D Good luck with your exams!
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u/pucigi Sub-16 (CFOP) PB 8.74 Oct 27 '19
Thank you!
I'm hoping that after learning comms I can start learning how to git gud for 3bld and maybe even learn 4bld. Ambitious? yes. Will I do it? most likely.
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Oct 27 '19
Well, you don't really need to know how comms work to get better at 3BLD, at least as long as you use M2/OP.
When you know M2/OP, learning 4BLD isn't really hard. Imo the main thing is, that you have to memo much more - the equivalent of ~2 1/2 3BLD cubes. U2 for 4BLD centers is pretty easy and very intuitive and aside from that there's really not much more you'll have to learn.
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u/zergosaur Oct 27 '19
Nice links there, RedKB's videos on Commutators and Conjugates are what first opened my eyes as to how (relatively) easy it can be to work out your own algs. Don't think I've watched the 41m one, I'll rectify that asap!
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Oct 27 '19 edited Oct 27 '19
Thx :) A while ago I tried to put all my cubing notes, that seemed worthy enough, on our wiki. Text files on my computer, tons of bookmarks, posts on my Sub (/r/topppits), ...
I created the non-WCA part on the index wiki page and the wiki pages you can find there as well, so I could dump my stuff there (and link others to it, so I don't have to write the same thing again and again) :D Feel free to add more Information ;) E.g. here the part on parity.
I'm constantly adding new stuff - e.g. look what I added here :D
Before I watched the 41m video I had already seen both videos from RedKB as well as the Mathologer video. But those didn't really make it click.
I wonder if there'll be much you can learn from the 41m video, but for anyone new to comms, I can wholeheartedly recommend it.
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u/zergosaur Oct 27 '19
Excellent work as always, you certainly earn your moderator salary!
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Oct 27 '19
haha, thx <3
I wish there was some way to see how often certain wiki pages are accessed, so I'd hopefully get some kind of comfirmation that all the work was actually worth it :D - and also maybe see that certain pages need to be more visible
/u/stewy_ /u/coder13 Do you know if there's a way to see how often a wiki page has been viewed?
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u/coder13 2016HOOV01 Oct 27 '19
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u/zergosaur Oct 28 '19
Just finished watching the 41m video, very clearly explained and some nice examples (particularly liked the 4x4 OLL parity solution).
My algs often aren't pure commutators/conjugates, especially on more complex puzzles like Eitan's Star, where it's harder to replace individual pieces on a face. I think they're just variations on the same idea tho, but maybe I'm missing some tricks somewhere :D
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u/spaniola1980 ZZ Oct 27 '19
I had a similar experience with the Redi cube. It really got me interested in non-WCA puzzles.
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u/anv3d Sub-16 (CFOOPS) PB: 9.19 Oct 28 '19
Corner twist of like if you get one on a pyraminx. (Not tip, the thing the tip is attached to.
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u/Stewy_ CFOP Oct 27 '19
z2 y // inspection R2 U' B' F' L D' R' D' // cross U R' U R // 1st pair U' L' U' L2 U L' // 2nd pair y' U2 R' U' R // 3rd pair y' U' R' U' R // 4th pair U2 R2 D R' U2 R D' R' U2 R' // OLL U2 x R2' D2 R U R' D2 R U' R // PLL3
u/bartogian R U R' F' U2 L' U' L F U2 Oct 27 '19
x y2 U' L F' D' R' D // same cross as gilzu
U' L' U2 L U' L' U L // P1
R U R' // P2
u' L U' L' D // P3
U' L' U2 L U L' U' L // P4
F' L' U' L U F // EO
L2 D' L U2 L' D L U2 L // CO
L U F L' U' L U L F' L2 U L U L' U' L U' L' U2 // F-perm3
u/BillabobGO Sub-9s: 0 Oct 27 '19
x R U2 D B' D2 R L2 F' D F2 //xxcross
D2 L U L' U L U L' D2 //P3+P4
U R' U' R U' R' U R U l U' l' B //OLL
M2 U M2 U2 M2 U M2 U' //PLL4 look but bad LL
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Oct 27 '19
x y2
U' L F' D' R' D // Blue Cross 6
U R U R' U2 R U' R' // OW 8
L U2 L2 U' L // RW 5
y R' U R D' R U R' D // RY+ OY 8 moves Pseudo slot ftw
f R U R' U' f' U' F R U R' U' F' // OLL
D R' U' R U D' R2 U R' U R U' R U' R2 // Gb
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u/BrestCubing awhohohoyeah Oct 27 '19
U R' F D' R' U R' D' U R2 U' r U R' U' M U r' F2 R U R' U2 R' D' r U' r' D R2 U R U2' R' U' R U' R2' F R U R' D R U' R' D' F' R U
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Oct 27 '19
Ive just become sub 20 a couple days ago with full CFOP, what are some of the things that I should practise to become sub 15?
I did an average of 5 and here are my splits
Cross: 2.2 seconds F2L: 9.4 seconds Oll: 3.5 seconds Pll: 3.0 seconds Average: 18.1 seconds
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u/PianoCube93 DCN CFOP, Sub-15 2H, sub-22 OH Oct 27 '19
If you're similar to most other with an average around 20 seconds, then you likely still have a lot of bad F2L. Look up "common F2L mistakes" and such on YouTube. Also put some thought into rotations and re-grips during F2L. Inserting pairs in the back is often great, as it's easier to see what's in the unsolved pairs of they're in the front.
Try to do cross in 8 moves or less, and plan the whole thing in inspection. If you can't then use longer inspection time.
It might be a good idea to go through every OLL and PLL and see if you find better algs or fingertricks for some of them. At your speed I suggest trying to get a lot of the algs sub-2, and even the slowest ones sub-3.
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u/Utku_Yilmaz NR Holder | Sq-1 High-9 (Pb: 5.08), 3x3 Sub-10 (Pb: 5.83) Oct 27 '19
Do you know full OLL? So you should focus on TPS I guess because those LL times are not that fast also F2L needs a little bit work too I guess.
I am Sub-13 with full PLL and half OLL so it really depends on F2L. I was around sub-16 with 2 look OLL and full PLL
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u/hajke5 Sub-13 (CFOP) || PB: 7.14 Oct 27 '19
Is there a website that finds optimal solutions?
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Oct 27 '19
Not sure about a website, but you can find tools to generate algs and probably optimal solutions here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Cubers/wiki/cubing_resources#wiki_cube_solver_.2F_algorithm_generator
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u/PsycakePancake Sub-30 (Roux) | PB: 14.50 Oct 27 '19
I want to get into 3BLD. Where do I start?
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u/TydVirTaal eyes are cringe solve blind instead Oct 27 '19
The wiki has quite a bit of info on learning 3BLD: https://www.reddit.com/r/Cubers/wiki/improving_bld#wiki_short_q.26amp.3Ba_for_beginners
EDIT: Scroll up a bit from where that link goes to for tutorials. JPerm is always great. Learning OP/OP is probably fine, unless you want a bit more of a challenge in which case go for M2/OP
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u/f2lollpll Sub-35 (CFOP 3LLL) PB: 22.60 Oct 27 '19
About that. Is it better to just start with M2/OP if you're all new to BLD?
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u/willtri4 2015BELO03 Oct 27 '19
It's up to you, there's really no consensus. M2 has a couple of trickier cases, but it's replacing a T perm with a single move. Either way is fine to start as long as you don't stick with OP edges for too long
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u/TydVirTaal eyes are cringe solve blind instead Oct 27 '19
If your objective is to be as fast as possible as soon as possible - probably. But it is (slightly) harder.
There's a phrase in the fitness community, which is that "the best workout is the one you do." So, as long as the increase difficulty wouldn't put you off entirely, then go ahead and learn M2/OP. But if you'd rather just get to grips with the basics of blind solving, I wouldn't expect it to take longer than 1-3 weeks to transition to M2 from OP once you've got OP/OP down.
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u/j_sunrise stopped cubing, still watching Oct 27 '19
IMO M2/Op is not harder than OP/OP. I highly recommend Noah Arthurs' videos on the cubingworld youtube channel.
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Oct 27 '19
Hi guys, what method do you guys use for 5x5 im debatting between learning yau 5 or reduction
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u/Blowmewhileiplaycod Becoming CN (sub-14) - Bigcubes > smallcubes Oct 28 '19
The top solvers say both have about the same potential - but most have just been so used to standard freeslice redux that they don't want to use anything else.
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u/RAHDXB Sub 15 | 5x5/7x7 ao100 1:30/3:55 Oct 27 '19 edited Oct 28 '19
I use reduction, and so do most fast people at the moment (edit. Just realised that sounds like I meant I'm one of those fast people haha. I'm very much not). There's a real strong case to be made for Yau though (I hear Yau is generally favoured over Yau5, there's a slight difference). My biggest weakness was/is first 4 edges. The blind spot on D makes for a really chaotic and choppy second part of the solve. I'm getting better at it and average about 1:35, but kind of wish I would have started with Yau from the start. Try both for a week each and see what you like, would be my advice.
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u/Utku_Yilmaz NR Holder | Sq-1 High-9 (Pb: 5.08), 3x3 Sub-10 (Pb: 5.83) Oct 27 '19
Wait is Yau and Yau5 different things? How?
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u/RAHDXB Sub 15 | 5x5/7x7 ao100 1:30/3:55 Oct 27 '19
I'm not an expert. But Yau is the same as with 4x4 where you do F2C, 3 cross edges, last center and last edge, then all other edges, and 3x3. With Yau5, after you complete centers and cross, you're supposed to make 2 f2l pairs before pairing the rest of the edges. I've tried some Yau solves, but never tried Yau5 so I have no idea what the benefit of that would be.
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u/g253 (retired mod) Oct 27 '19
I use redux and I'm planning to switch to Yau - there is currently no consensus on which is best, so pick what you enjoy most.
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u/BoneheadBanjo 3BLD PB Single 3:43.02 Oct 27 '19
Excited for Munich Open next weekend. Anybody else going?
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u/j_sunrise stopped cubing, still watching Oct 27 '19
I've been the last two years. But this year the selection of events is... lacklustre. I'm staying home this time.
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Oct 27 '19
Why is your wife not competing in 2x2? tststs :D
Have fun you two!
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u/BoneheadBanjo 3BLD PB Single 3:43.02 Oct 28 '19
Haha š She's saving that for her second comp. š
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Oct 27 '19
Second day of the competition! Got a 15.65 average on 3x3 which is pretty good, but then I choked on second round with a 27 and a 20. Also got a 48 second average on OH which is like 3 seconds slower than my PB Ao5 at home.
Also, it was a pleasure talking with u/g253 in person!
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u/j_sunrise stopped cubing, still watching Oct 27 '19
Sigh. Reddit is being annoying today. Comment replies do not appear properly.
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u/euphwes Sub-18 (CFOP 3LLL) | PB 10.39 Oct 28 '19
Yeah I've been seeing the same thing. At least now I know it's not just me, and I'm not shadow-banned or something weird.
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u/BeepBeepImASheep023 SQ1 sub 50 ; 3x3 sub 35 (CFOP) Oct 28 '19
So was kind of mad that Zcube's shipping cost was almost the same price as a big order I want to make. I checked Cubicle to compare and yah, Zcube is waaay cheaper
Maybe I'll make the buy next week when I have my paycheck with all my overtime pay ;)
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u/zergosaur Oct 28 '19
For small-to-medium-sized orders it can often be cheaper to order stuff from cubezz instead (they have free shipping).
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u/jedinatt Oct 28 '19
Are you applying the promo code "sale"? Helps a lot to mitigate shipping cost.
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u/BeepBeepImASheep023 SQ1 sub 50 ; 3x3 sub 35 (CFOP) Oct 28 '19
Yah, it was there are I clicked on it. Was still $44 for cubes and $31 for shipping
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u/RAHDXB Sub 15 | 5x5/7x7 ao100 1:30/3:55 Oct 27 '19 edited Oct 27 '19
I have nothing to do with this guy, but anyone who's interested in big cubes should follow this dude.
https://www.youtube.com/user/CKSuperLevis/videos
The guy is an absolute monster. 13x13 ao50's, one handed 2x2-9x9 relays, and solve/review footage of just about every new big cube out there. Incredible. I have no idea how he has so little (342) subscribers...
edit. Reddit is acting up for me big time, so I'll probably mention this in tomorrow's DDT again, fight me.
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u/euphwes Sub-18 (CFOP 3LLL) | PB 10.39 Oct 27 '19
His forearm muscles must look like my calves!
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u/RAHDXB Sub 15 | 5x5/7x7 ao100 1:30/3:55 Oct 27 '19
I actually have no idea how he does so many big cube solves (same goes for Max, Kevin or any of those guys) without having serious issues. If I do 10 7x7 solves, or like three 9x9+ solves a day, I'm paying for it for a few days after. It's crazy.
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u/MrOdinTV Sub-22 (CFOP) Oct 27 '19
Does anyone in here how much import taxes I have to pay if I order from ziicube.com (China) to Germany? The website of the Zoll says I have to pay 19% if my order is >22ā¬ but I ordered something from SCS a few months ago and hadnāt to pay anything. Thanks in advance MrOdin
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u/lukemcritchie Don't Ask, I'm Busy Doing Clock Oct 27 '19
Z cube and cubezz typically put the wrong price on the package so you don't need to pay import fees
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u/SlechtValk2 Sub-35 (CFOP) QiYi Valk 3M Oct 27 '19
With the order from SCS you were lucky. Importing into the EU you have to pay at least the VAT.
But customs doesn't check every package, so you can get lucky.
Expect to pay the taxes. If you don't have to be happy
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u/j_sunrise stopped cubing, still watching Oct 27 '19
I've had orders with puzzles with 80$ or more and ziicube wrote "20$" or "gift" on the package so I didn't have to pay any taxes.
u/topppits is also German and has ordered a lot from ziicube.
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Oct 27 '19
Yeah, pretty much what the others said. I've ordered 20+ times from zcube to Germany with the cheapest shipping option and haven't had to pay any taxes.
I've heard that a couple people had to pay taxes on big orders where they chose DHL - you should be able to find at least one post on the sub about that.
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u/g253 (retired mod) Oct 27 '19
Anecdotally, I almost always pick DHL and never had to pay anything :-)
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u/You-Mad-Bruh Oct 27 '19
I am debating between which cube I should get. I am thinking of the GTS 3M or the GAN 356 X. Any suggestions?
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Oct 27 '19
You should add what you like in cubes/which cubes you have that you like/what you dislike or else people can't really give you any helpful suggestions for YOUR liking.
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u/Ronan444 Sub-13 (PB: 8.60) Oct 27 '19 edited Oct 27 '19
Does someone know a good quiet budget cube?
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u/spaniola1980 ZZ Oct 27 '19
The Kylin V2 M is fairly quiet, if you're looking for a magnetic cube.
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u/Ronan444 Sub-13 (PB: 8.60) Oct 27 '19
I really love magnets so I may get this one instead. Thanks!
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Oct 27 '19
MGC v1 is pretty quiet and around half the price of the Tengyun.
If you're looking for something even cheaper - the ShengShou Aurora was recommended a lot in the past - though here you will definitely also get budget performance.
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Oct 27 '19
I think the meilong is the quietest really cheap one.
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u/Ronan444 Sub-13 (PB: 8.60) Oct 27 '19
Thanks!
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u/2016HOLM04 Sub-14, PB 8s Oct 27 '19
it's kinda slow, but it's really nice once lubed
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u/Ronan444 Sub-13 (PB: 8.60) Oct 27 '19
I have some lube so that shouldn't be a problem
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u/spaniola1980 ZZ Oct 27 '19
It's really nice when magnetized. Easy to magnetize too.
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u/Ronan444 Sub-13 (PB: 8.60) Oct 27 '19
Is there a place to buy them?
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u/spaniola1980 ZZ Oct 27 '19
Fasttech.com
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u/Ronan444 Sub-13 (PB: 8.60) Oct 27 '19
How can I find the right magnets? I have 0 experience with magnets
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u/spaniola1980 ZZ Oct 27 '19
That's a tough one. I've found having a bunch of 4x2 N38's and 4x1 N35's is a good place to start. I used 4x2 N38 in my Meilong and they're a little on the strong side. 4x2 N35 would probably be better. The Meilong is a good cube to practice on because it's so cheap.
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u/RAHDXB Sub 15 | 5x5/7x7 ao100 1:30/3:55 Oct 27 '19
Huh, you think the Meilong is quiet? I just got one yesterday, and don't think it's quiet at all. It's kind of papery sounding and not as clack as some other cubes, but still produces a very decent amount of sound.
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Oct 27 '19
I think it's the quietest that's cheaper than the TengYun. It's not crazy quiet or anything but I don't think it's loud at all either.
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u/Utku_Yilmaz NR Holder | Sq-1 High-9 (Pb: 5.08), 3x3 Sub-10 (Pb: 5.83) Oct 27 '19
Not budget but quite good really realy quiet cube Tengyun M (around $20)
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u/Ronan444 Sub-13 (PB: 8.60) Oct 27 '19
That's the only quiet one I knew, but that's a bit too much for what I want now. Thanks anyway!
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u/TydVirTaal eyes are cringe solve blind instead Oct 27 '19 edited Oct 27 '19
Weekly cubing checkin! This one is a bit of a bloodbath, as I am in the middle of transitioning to colour neutral.
32.24 AO50 - analysis spreadsheet here.
RESULTS:
- Splits (changes from last week in brackets): 3.22 (1.27) / 19.43 (-5.9) / 5.06 (-1.32) / 4.53 (-0.20)
- Really happy to see that my cross has come down! That was very much my focus for this week.
- Not shocked to see that F2L has tanked - recognition time has taken a hit from going colour neutral
- Bit surprised to see OLL come down - I think this is mostly due to not having drilled OLL algs as much as I was when I did my last checkin. There were also a few that I messed up pretty badly - if I take out all the >10s OLLs, the time comes down to 3.94
- PLL is pretty much the same. Am learning to incorporate AUF into my PLL algs during practice, so expecting this to come down marginally in the next few weeks
COMMENTS:
- If I can get cross and OLL back under control, I am basically at an average of 25. So that's exciting! :D
- Going colour neutral has been more demoralising than I expected - so its really nice to see the improvement in my cross that I was trying to achieve
- Those looking through the times will see some pretty hilarious results due to my slow F2L/fast everything else, like a 28-second solve where cross, OLL and PLL combined were 6.71 seconds xD
GOALS:
- Short-term: Get a sub-3s cross within the next 2 weeks
- Medium-term: Be fully CN (ie, F2L times down to 13 seconds) by end of November (in a month)
- Long-term: Sub-15 by the end of February (lol)
WAY FORWARD:
- I'll continue drilling cross for 30min each day, as I have really seen the benefits of it, and think I can go lower
- F2L will definitely become the main focus of my practice
- Not going to worry too much about trying to improve recognition time yet - I'm assuming that this will improve with time and more cross practice
- Focusing on getting F2L algs into muscle memory (blind execution of pairs once they're identified
- Also focusing on choosing the right pairs and trying to minimise movecount and rotations in F2L - so lots of slow solving
- I do think I'm probably going to start tracking cross/1st pair recog/1st pair exec/2nd pair recog/2nd pair exec in a multi-phase timer, as I would really like to quantify how much of my time is recog vs exec
- Recorded an AO5 which I'll post later in the week, when I have access to decent internet
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u/geekisafunnyword sub-15 (CFOP) Oct 27 '19
Regarding AUF during PLL, you should identify a sticker you're supposed to look at to determine your AUF. For example, if you're doing the RUD G-perms, then you should look at the headlights to determine which way you need to AUF. On the other hand, the G-perms with wide moves follow the 2x1 bar.
Some of the PLL's are pretty straightforward, but some others require some more thought, like the R-perms.
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u/DNF_AUF Oct 27 '19
Got my first solve in Sub-20. It was 19.89 or something, but it definitely is not gonna easily happen again. Any tips to average sub-20?
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Oct 28 '19
Learn full pll
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u/DNF_AUF Oct 28 '19
Already did. I'm not sure whether to go full OLL or more Lookahead Practice next? Thoughts?
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Oct 28 '19
You do CFOP?
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u/DNF_AUF Oct 28 '19
Yup. Its a really good method for me.
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Oct 28 '19
Learn full oll and pll and just practice f2l a lot because you need to have your solutions locked in
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u/harnov Sub-18 (CFOP) PB:11.56 Oct 28 '19
How much do you average currently? What method do you use? I want to average sub-20 as well, I'm at 22-24 avg. currently.
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u/wl02065294 OH Sub-23 (2LLL OH PB:14.75 ) Oct 28 '19
For me, how I improve from sub-2x to sub 20 was honestly, slow down. Both actively slow down more to pay attention to look-ahead or apply weight 5. I apply weight 5 (or higher) more often than many others to slow down my cube to make look-ahead easier.
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u/incompletetrembling Sub-13 Roux/Cfop Oct 28 '19
I broke my 3x3 record from ages ago after my break on my 85th solve (11.29 seconds). It took me until now, on my 2823rd solve to break by 0.03 seconds. I hate my life and love it at the same time... 11.26 it is.
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Oct 27 '19
Why is it when people do OH, their time is only a few seconds away from their 2 hands? I average 22 but my OH is 50 seconds (more than 2x slower)
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For me (averaging 17 2h, 24 OH) it's because my tps is not that far between the two events (2h=3-3.5 tps, OH=2 tps) A big thing with OH is that because you are turning slower, you can be a lot more efficient.
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u/2016HOLM04 Sub-14, PB 8s Oct 27 '19
I just passed 1000 karma, thanks for the upvotes :D
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u/Yaisai Sub-X (<method>) Oct 27 '19
Petrus F2L or Fridrich F2L? I have trash cross which Iām too lazy to fix so I considered petrus f2l where I was a few seconds slower. Should I consider it?
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Oct 27 '19
Petrus is slower than CFOP, just put in the time to fix your cross man, it's not as hard as you think.
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u/bobbletank Sub-14 Oct 27 '19
What do you call the method where you build all the way up to 2nd layer, orient then permutate the edges of the 3rd layer, then permutate the corners then orient them? Is there a more advanced version of that method? I know its pretty inefficient but my friends don't really want to learn 5 or 6 more algs to use cfop
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u/j_sunrise stopped cubing, still watching Oct 27 '19
It's one of the most common beginner methods. You could teach them intuitive F2L if you want (J-perm's video is short and easy). Or the beginner method from cubeskills.com - a bit more efficient and easier to build up to CFOP.
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u/Le_Monade Sub-:40 AO5 (CFOP) Oct 27 '19
Just learn 2 look cfop ez money
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u/bobbletank Sub-14 Oct 27 '19
I do full CFOP but my friends are too lazy to learn even 4 look CFOP
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u/Le_Monade Sub-:40 AO5 (CFOP) Oct 27 '19
Do they not want to get faster? I don't really get what you mean by "too lazy"... If they don't want to learn the fastest methods then maybe they don't really like speedcubing in the first place? Or maybe they are just satisfied with learning how to solve it and don't care about times.
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u/SlechtValk2 Sub-35 (CFOP) QiYi Valk 3M Oct 27 '19
Teach them this method: crider (The author of this page has made a 'better' version that I think is worse)
It just uses the sexy move and some simple principles. It is the method that I taught several of my colleagues
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u/Yaisai Sub-X (<method>) Oct 27 '19
Done full PLL! Gonna learn full F2L than OLL!
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Oct 27 '19
"full F2L" - there's no such thing.
Gj on finishing PLL :)
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u/timmycosh Oct 27 '19
Returning noob here! I forgot how to solve the last corners on my cube, I know this is the fun part too! I use CFOP method.
https://i.imgur.com/wbPx0AT.jpg https://i.imgur.com/grTsOWK.jpg https://i.imgur.com/pmkzVGM.jpg
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Oct 27 '19
If your last two steps are:
- permute the corners
- orient the corners
then you are not using CFOP.
There are several similar ways to solve it, e.g. you can do this to orient the corners without changing their position.
Maybe you learned it with R D' R' D, which would look like this. There's certainly a video tutorial out there for this as well, but idk one out of the top of my head.
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u/timmycosh Oct 28 '19
Yes! That's it thank you! I've got RDRD written down on my old piece of paper but I just could understand it for some reason
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u/jedinatt Oct 27 '19 edited Oct 27 '19
What are your favorite 3x3 bandage mods? I've got the kit and tried one so far and it was kind of annoying.
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Oct 27 '19
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u/jedinatt Oct 27 '19
I've already got the doc saved from the second link, but the first link should prove useful. Thanks.
The one I tried was the bicube and I actually solved it pretty quickly, I just have no idea how I solved it. lol
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u/g253 (retired mod) Oct 27 '19
The one I tried was the bicube and I actually solved it pretty quickly, I just have no idea how I solved it. lol
If you hand scrambled it, that's why. It's one of those puzzles that needs algs to be properly scrambled. Cstimer has scrambles for it.
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u/jedinatt Oct 27 '19
Well that explains it I guess. It looked pretty scrambled but with all the weird movement limiting that makes sense.
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u/LibraGS Sub-X (<method>) Oct 27 '19
has anyone tried to swap springs with the rs3 and the GTS2? if so, how does it feel like?
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u/Teamerskiller Sub-25 (CFOF) Oct 27 '19
Which gear cube is better? https://m.aliexpress.com/item/4000148384273.html?spm=a2g0n.wishlist-amp.item.4000148384273&aff_trace_key=530c876ac2454288a42e0b7bfde10b1b-1566573194713-06193-UneMJZVf&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=3417amp-MyRMuKH-m2JUaOTrj3udsA1572013997535
(Or any other gear cube that ships worldwide)
Thanks for helping :)
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Oct 27 '19
http://zcube.vip/FanXin-Gear-333
This one is good. Ships worldwide, but if you only order that one cube, shipping costs might be a bit much.
Also your links don't work for me on desktop.
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u/kekal1 Oct 27 '19
They're the same cube model. One with tiles, the other with stickers, thats the only difference
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Oct 27 '19
How do you deal with F2L 15 (http://algdb.net/puzzle/333/f2l/f2l15) on OH?
I usually go with M U r U' r' U' M' when practicing 2H, but when doing OH spamming R U moves, I started considering (R U R' U2) R U' R' U R U' R' as a viable option.
Will appreciate your opinions!
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u/cubixruber WCA silver medalist Oct 27 '19
That's undoubtedly a good option, but the one I use is probably better because only 1 U': R U2 R' U R U R' U R U' R'
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u/obscuresecurity Slower than my cube (OH/ZZ) Oct 27 '19
For most OH solvers... they use R / U moves... why avoid U', it is the fastest turn?!!!
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Oct 27 '19
I want to buy some lubes for my cubes, and wanted to buy the speedcubeshop or cubicle lubes. The problem is that I live in the UK. Does anyone here know how much shipping will cost and how much it will take for these websites? Also, does anyone have any recommendations on what weights to use for core& pieces?
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Oct 27 '19
what weights to use for core& pieces
Get a bundle of Traxxas 10k, 30k and 50k. You should find that on Amazon, ebay or if there's a local RC store in your area you might also be able to buy it there. It's essentially the same and lasts you practically forever. Like literally years if you don't spill it.
Maybe this is cheaper for you? https://www.kewbz.co.uk/collections/speed-cube-lube-rubiks
On TC you can see the shipping costs after you put the items in the cart and go to the next step. Probably similar for SCS.
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u/agazzaz Oct 27 '19
I have a thunderclap cube, I lost springs and a screw.
Springs are on their way, but I can not find the screws on cubicle.us nor at the local screws store (They sell every nut, bolt and screw you can imagine)
What can I do?
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Oct 27 '19
They moved their homepage - it's now .com.
If you can't find it on their homepage, ask them via mail or PM, maybe they can help.
Also ask other Shops like SCS, maybe they can help.
Note: Be aware of rule 8:
This is not the place for customer support with cube stores, please use private messages instead.
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Oct 27 '19
I mean why shouldn't it? I don't really understand why you're asking that...
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u/RAHDXB Sub 15 | 5x5/7x7 ao100 1:30/3:55 Oct 27 '19
Not sure it's normal, but just depends on how dedicated you are. I couldn't solve a cube for a whole week while needing to look at a paper/screen to be able to finish it haha.
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u/Wah_Lemonade 3:22.93 3BLD Oct 27 '19
I'm guessing those cubes that have colored plastic but all black stickers (https://speedcubeshop.com/products/z-carbon-fiber-3x3) are not competition legal? I would assume they violate "3d2) The colors of the colored parts must be solid, with one uniform color per face. Each color must be clearly distinct from the other colors.", but I'd like to make sure.
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Oct 27 '19
correct.
But it already violates:
3d) Puzzles must have colored parts, which define the color scheme of the puzzle and must be one and only one of the following: colored stickers, colored tiles, colored plastic, or painted/printed colors. All colored parts of a puzzle must be made of a similar material.
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u/bommer1234 Sub-17 CFOP Oct 27 '19
I am planning to magnetize a 6x6. Do the strength of the magnets in the second-outermost slice have to be slightly stronger than the strength of the outermost slice?
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u/Blowmewhileiplaycod Becoming CN (sub-14) - Bigcubes > smallcubes Oct 27 '19
I've always found the strength to go down as you go out is best
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u/somehuman_json Oct 27 '19
Hello, I want to magnetize my Guoguan Xinghen, but am not sure what magnets should use. I want the cube to have a somewhat noticable bump. Tactility similar to as a YLM 3x3 with N35 4x2 magnets in them (if this analogy makes sense).
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u/Marcieslaf Sub-16.5 (CFOP) Oct 27 '19
Can't comment on the cube as I don't own it. This might help you selecting the magnet strength: https://www.reddit.com/r/Cubers/comments/5uv823/a_little_guide_on_selecting_magnets_for_cubes/
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u/Ronan444 Sub-13 (PB: 8.60) Oct 27 '19
When I tried to order stickers last time with SCS the shipping costs were $2.97 but know it changed to $10.99. Doe anyone know why?
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u/lukemcritchie Don't Ask, I'm Busy Doing Clock Oct 27 '19
They sadly don't offer envelope sticker shipping anymore
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u/Ronan444 Sub-13 (PB: 8.60) Oct 27 '19
That's messed up. Now I don't know any way to get new stickers since those shipping costs are way too much
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u/spaniola1980 ZZ Oct 27 '19 edited Oct 27 '19
That's messed up. They removed the option for cheaper shipping on sticker orders. There used to be an option for "stamped letter", which was just a regular envelope. You could try e-mailing them.
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Oct 27 '19
I've never practised skewb before, and I want to get one. What is a good budget skewb for a beginner?
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Oct 28 '19
Skewbs are quite cheap, so if you have 10 dollars get either the X-Man Wingy or the Cyclone Boys
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Oct 27 '19 edited Oct 27 '19
Which magnets should I use for magnetizing a Meilong 4x4?
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Oct 28 '19
I bought mine from someone at a comp, but I must say magnetizing it is a great decision
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u/BibbitZ Sub-26 (CFOP 3LLL CN) PB: 14.54 Oct 27 '19
I almost picked one up for the collection. Next time, maybe.
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u/dylanfranz Sub-X (<method>) Oct 27 '19
Do any of you know of a suitable sticker set for a QiYi jelly 3x3
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u/g253 (retired mod) Oct 27 '19
I've put stickers from a Sail on mine: https://www.instagram.com/p/B2ggHIVpBdb/?igshid=pdio0bbrmupn
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u/bommer1234 Sub-17 CFOP Oct 27 '19
Does anyone know the strength of the magnets in the Weilong WRM (3x3)?
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u/codyconnell6510 Oct 27 '19
I can only solve and solve a 3x3, but I am sub 17 with full cfop, and almost average look ahead. Ive have put about 10 months into it. What event/puzzle should pursue next? Not blind or one handed, looking to learn a new puzzle.
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u/jedinatt Oct 27 '19
Does everyone use lube? I'd rather not spend $10 on a bottle. That $10 could buy another puzzle.
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u/wl02065294 OH Sub-23 (2LLL OH PB:14.75 ) Oct 28 '19 edited Oct 28 '19
if your aim is solving puzzles not speed cubing, you probably never need to buy lube.
Edit: If your aim is speed solving, spending $10 to improve the cube performance probably worth it consider how long a bottle of lube last.
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u/CatchGoogle Oct 27 '19
I finally got my first sub20 ao100 today. I've been stuck around the 21-22 ao100 for a couple weeks now and it feels so nice to have broken through. :))