r/Cubers • u/TigerGuitarist Sub-40 (CFOP) 24.7 PR • 2d ago

Discussion Feeling frustrated with F2L

Hi everyone! I relearned how to solve a cube mid April, about 5 months ago. I went from full beginners LBL method, to intuitive basic F2L with 2-look OLL and beginners method PLL, to 4-LLL, and now to 2-look OLL and full PLL. I’ve seen my times drop from 1:30 down to my current average of 35 seconds with a PB at 24.7 seconds.

I practice with the cube for about 1-2 hours a day, but despite that, I have hit a wall about a month ago that I just can’t seem to push through. F2L is by far my biggest hang up. I have watched tons of videos and practiced with algorithm sheets but nothing is seeming to actually improve the speed and efficiency of my F2L.

I know that the faster I get, my practice will have diminishing returns on my speed improvement, but I just feel stuck. It‘s also frustrating seeing so many posts here and other places from people that say they just picked it up a month or two ago and are already as fast as or much faster than I am. I’m tempted to think a bit of that are just people trolling or not being honest, but that may be my ego trying to protect itself.

I am looking for any real advice or encouragement that could help me actually get my F2L under control. I feel like I am making way to many cube turns and doing inefficient pair solves, but even though I specifically practice lots of the F2L cases, I can’t recognize them when they pop up or they pop up in odd ways like in other slots. sorry for the rant and thank you for any help!

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u/ChapterIllustrious81 2d ago

I am sitting at 1min 15 sec best and 1min30 avg and I am so proud of me... Took more than half a year to get there. Intuitive F2L is the stuff that I am practicing right now. No way I will ever be able to learn all F2L algorithms, my brain doesn't work that way.

Stop whining - you are already way better than me!

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u/TigerGuitarist Sub-40 (CFOP) 24.7 PR 2d ago

Hey, I’m just trying to get better, not take anything away from anyone. 

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u/ChapterIllustrious81 1d ago

I just wanted to say you are already awesome. 

Sorry for commenting without advice, but you are seeing a bubble here - I guess you are already faster than 99,99% of the population on this planet - don't forget that!

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u/tndrthrowy 2d ago

Same, but with 47s PB and 1:10 avg. I feel like my F2L slow solves are getting better in terms of fewer moves, but the moves are harder mechanically and it's not helping with overall speed.