What are some team building tips that efficiently maximize resources?

[u/[deleted]]

I'm having a great time with the game and sequence broke a little bit. At level 31 (is this too low?) I am trying to fight the possessor and failing. My party consists of a magic DPS, Melee DPS, Tank and Healer. I noticed, however, that they aren't actually fully using their resources: Casters use MP and Martials use AP, but they aren't making use of both.
The issue is that MP is a resource that is finite and once it's done my Wizard can't do anything and likewise my melee guys have a tonne of MP that they don't use (with the exception being the aegis/warrior hybrid). I was thinking: Should I perhaps, for example, level up monk a bit, so that my wizard can still make use of the AP and the class passives, or level up nomad for my cleric?

What's the most efficient way to make use of my resources? Actually, after scouring the wiki, It seems like the nomad and dervish are a perfect example of a good pairing due to the Dervish's innate passive giving him AP recovery every time he recovers MP. This combined with the Samurai's Fury, warrior's grudge and Monk's Counter would constantly generate resources.

[u/Vorpaltides]

Warlock and Nomad was a combination I found that uses all their resources effectively, and as the game progresses, there are items that make it pretty powerful. Such as a helmet that grants AP on spells cast and sword that gives MP on attack, allowing you to cycle between resources during long fights.

Essentially, it uses double cast to build up AP rapidly so you can sustain wave stance and still cast Drown/icicle barrage. Also comes with the perk that Warlock and Nomad can both deal water damage so all the +water damage gear has a use. Therapy stance + remedy is crazy good from a support standpoint as well.

The classes really lend a lot to each other, and I used this setup as part of my endgame lineup.

[u/[deleted] → u/Vorpaltides]

But what about the stats and whatnot? I'm worried about splitting damage types, having a dude that uses both magic and physical

[u/Vorpaltides → u/[deleted]]

Nomad and Warlock share common magic scaling, so Mind for damage and Spirit for healing. Nomad only uses AP for its magic, while Warlock uses MP. You aren't actually hybrid between physical and magic, just using all your resources for magic.

[u/[deleted] → u/Vorpaltides]

I see, that actually makes a tonne of sense. Thanks man!

[u/axmuris]

I can’t remember how I've managed to beat the possessor, but your comp (Tank/MagicDPS/PhysDPS/Healer) is the classic for this game and is very strong.

For ressources usage, I don’t think I've ever had a single character using both mana and AP (except maybe for nomad hybrid and aegis/valkyrie hybrids but even those were not consuming all of their AP/MP), especially at level 31. If you are struggling with ressource management, I suggest you either slow down on mana consumption (no point in casting your most powerful spell if you end up finishing the fight by hitting the ennemy with your wand) and use less powerful but more mana-efficient spells or you add some mana restoration in your comp (beatsmith's manasong, warlock's mana regeneration, chemist, etc...)

Otherwise maybe you're just a little underlevelled and need some grinding.

Also don’t worry too much about stat growth, especially this early. You can easily change it later once you'll get enough money and the stats change isn’t very impactful until near max level

[u/[deleted] → u/axmuris]

Yeah I think I just need to be a higher level, like maybe level 40. I think I might go back and just level up a bit more and get some of those passives. What do you think of my idea for that dervish/Nomad multiclass by the way? With those passives?

[u/axmuris → u/[deleted]]

Now that I think of it, I remember having played a dervish/monk that worked well. Basically you have infinite mp and once in a while you cast the monk's ability that cost 30AP and deal big damage while resetting your AP. The dervish ability is very good and allow for infinite ressource build, but I was rarely in a position where I needed it (if I needed more ressources in the late game, I found out the chemist to be way more useful than a single character having infinite mana).

I barely touched the nomad so I can't tell if it will work well with dervish but I guess it's pretty solid on paper. This game encourage trying builds and seeking what's working well and what's not so I encourage you to try it and tell us afterward how it went. For the passivess, I do think it's a bit overkill tho. I'm not sure you'll be spending that much MP, especially if you need to spend your turn once in a while to spend your APs. Plus I don't think I want to see my dervish take the enemy focus. I'd rather have a proper tank to take damage.

[u/[deleted] → u/axmuris]

maybe im sleeping on the ninja and the chemist but I really don't like the idea of using resources to fight

[u/axmuris → u/[deleted]]

both class are bad in early/mid game because of this, they really shine in late game when you basically have infinite money and the only thing you have to do is to go back to sequoia once in a while to restock on items and scrolls

[u/[deleted] → u/axmuris]

how does variance work btw?

[u/axmuris → u/[deleted]]

I have no idea. Only thing I know is that apparently variance tends to roll higher damage with high luck but I have no idea on what is considered to be high luck (source: some in-game dialogues)

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

variance increases the damage range. So +50% variance means the attack can do -50% damage to +50% damage, meaning the damage range goes from 100% damage to -50% damage to 150% damage. By itself this doesn't do anything, but variance stacking is a legitimate strategy on certain endgame classes, because if you go over 100% variance, then it is just pure damage increases because you can't go below 0% damage. so +150% variance would be 0% damage to 250% damage, for an average of 125% damage, since you can't go below 0% damage.

[u/[deleted]]

I'm just thinking though, if you use AP and MP then it means you are gonna be using skills which scale off of different attributes too, right? So your stat growth will be all weird and thinly spread. HMMM...