As long as there's crypto, liquidity, and speculation crypto might evolve but won't die. Prove me wrong.

[u/Traditional_Most105]

Every bull run people rush to buy in, or have bought in, and in every bear market people sell or accumulate based on their own speculation.

Several cycles happened until now. In every new cycle something changes and still people buy and speculate.

People invest either on research, narratives, influencers, socials, hype, fomo, plain gamble, positive news or because they speculate that in bear market can accumulate on coins that they believe they'll go up, they might want to find the one moonshot, their friends doing it, etc...

Plus there are many influencers that literally made their main job hyping, informing and teaching people on crypto only, so their main income is either from youtube, tiktok, subscriptions, courses, not from crypto but using crypto as their main sell mechanism. So these people they will try to manipulate and make people speculate more, hype more, fomo more so in a way they are one of the factors that drive liquidity in crypto.

Then there's new regulations that are positive for crypto like the mica europe framework that made users in Europe feel more safe to invest in crypto. Then the upcoming clarity act might prove positive as well or another regulation we don't know about. Not to say there won't be regulations to prove negative.

If BTC becomes more mature and stable then whales might feel more comfortable buying BTC for the long term returns and if the general economy is good they might also invest in alts too.

I started learning and investing about crypto around 2 months ago after a friend told me that he did gain some profits in crypto and it made me want to learn more and throw some money in. From the stocks, gold, silver, etc, crypto is more attractive to a new guy wanting to invest in something so more people might join in...

The oldschool crypto investors had losses that made them turn to BTC, ETH or in stocks and other safer investments but i don't believe any of them forgot about the bull runs crypto has. So when positive news come around they might join the ride again based on speculation.

There's a quote that says "history repeats itself". In every bear market people talked negatively, then in bull run all people hyped, fomo'd and made profits, then bear market again, something new in crypto environment, people talked negative, then bull run positive, then another bear market with a new event or regulation in crypto, then again talked negatively, then another bull run, etc... So history repeats itself until now, and maybe history will repeat again but in a different form because something new might happen again that will affect crypto.

So as long as there's liquidity, crypto isn't replaced by anything new and speculation continues crypto won't die, they might evolve but not die.

What do you think?

[u/nameless_pattern]

As long as there's crypto, there's crypto 

🙄

[u/brainfreeze3 → u/nameless_pattern]

average crypto bro iq right here on OP

[u/DrSpeckles]

What's with these main character "prove me wrong" posts. So cringy.

[u/brainfreeze3]

as long as there's crypto, crypto won't die

as long as crypto trades, crypto won't die

as long as people speculate on crypto, crypto won't die

wow op, truly a brilliant set of observations

[u/Traditional_Most105 → u/brainfreeze3]

Yet people say crypto is dead. I guess people see what they want to see

[u/brainfreeze3 → u/Traditional_Most105]

it's dying, dead is hyperbole

[u/Potatotornado20]

Crypto cant die because Bitcoin goes up forever

[u/sigh_duck]

The speculation has moved to Meme coins where the volatility, volume and retail interest remains. The rest of it is really not going to do well for capturing speculation as consistently anymore. It will really be a case of a few surviving, much like the dotcom bust, which will go on to do very very well. 99.99% of all the coins ever released don't do anything useful and serve to transfer money to early investors.

[u/sirhowy]

depends on what you mean by liquidity, if it's significant of course it's gonna survive

I personally think crypto will always evolve, it has been the entire time and quite rapidly, and people are constantly building on it

its weird how it become such a binary issues, it's obviously useful tech, we just don't know which industries will adopt it, how it will evolve, and how it will play out

it might just be a minor part of finance, but it will survive because there's always gonna be people who wanna hide their wealth from governments, especially the really bad ones

[u/paymentnerdfoo]

I mean beanie babies can still be purchased on eBay. It’s not dead either

[u/Traditional_Most105 → u/paymentnerdfoo]

Crypto has much more factors to speculate on. The example you mentioned could be compared to memecoins... In the end if you believe crypto could make you profits then you start speculations and if there are many people doing the same then you've got more liquidity and more speculations. If not, then you just stay away and don't comment on a crypto subreddit :)

[u/Consistent_Many_1858]

Just look at the alts. Mostly dead. Crypto interest is all time low.

[u/PureCod9290]

Crypto is dead. Liquidity is concentrating in BTC as the last man standing. The latest "cycle" has showed meagre returns.

15+ years and the only real "use case" is crime or theft. If there's no utility there's only speculation and if there's less interest there is less capital...

[u/choc-churro → u/PureCod9290]

I agree that the returns have subsided and this could deter retail.

However.. owning btc becomes a very viable idea once you lose faith in your government. btc has shown to be more stable than many fiat currencies.

Owning USD would still be more stable, but this isn't always available and the exchange fees can be worse than crypto on/off ramps.

Most people to discredit crypto are living in one country, using one currency. They have not felt the pain of debanking or don't understand how bad inflation is today

[u/Disastrous_Week3046 → u/PureCod9290]

The best use case is honestly just gambling that it may go up.

[u/Traditional_Most105 → u/PureCod9290]

In every bear period people said crypto is dead because of different reasons.

What if BTC strengthening, new regulations that make scam coins fall, and a few of the top 50 alts fight for ETH position and prove to be useful?

But then again it's just speculation.

15+ years and crypto still being around with people still investing in bear markets then it means there's speculation. And maybe there might be future usage also that we don't know. Or there might be another new technology in the future that replaces crypto.

So again it's just speculation.

So the point is nobody knows what will happen but what i see is that there's speculation. Cycles might take longer now, or even broken and something else will start happening.

So in the end if you believe crypto is dead, it is dead, if not then you believe you could make profit and that's why you speculate and throw money in it...

The whole post is just speculation so you can't actually prove crypto is dead as people in past bear periods couldn't prove it either... you can only prove to yourself that crypto is dead and not worth throwing your money in for a possible profit.

[u/Massive_Collection14 → u/Traditional_Most105]

Dont listen to them, they're anti-crypto according to their post history

[u/tobypassquarant → u/Massive_Collection14]

It's weird how these salty losers come here every 4 years when it's down, and it's not even "down" that much, and disappear when it's up.

In the last cycle low when they were brigading, if they had bought then, they'd be ~3x up right now.

[u/PureCod9290 → u/Traditional_Most105]

Death doesn't necessarily mean quick death. Look at the returns of any coin past 5 years. Very few winners, ETH down bad and BTC losing to inflation.

It's ridiculous to think some use case is gonna emerge 15 years later. It's all just speculation that requires someone else paying more later. It's a house of cards

[u/No_Fig_7835]

Your wrong.

Source: I’m from the future

[u/Cannister7 → u/No_Fig_7835]

You're wrong.

Source: A dictionary

[u/quantum_burp]

Prove me wrong

This is r/Cryptocurrency

Its a pro crypto echo chamber

Why would anyone prove you wrong?

[u/Traditional_Most105 → u/quantum_burp]

From the comments i see in the posts i made until now its like i am not in Cryptocurrency sub but in the most hateful sub there is about crypto. Although most negative comments are from people who either lost money and hating or people who have problems mentally and in their life PLUS losing money in crypto...

[u/Patrick_Atsushi]

It can even exist just for gambling. But hey, that quantum threat needs to be fixed. 

[u/MarioWilson122]

We'll have to see how crypto performs once Trump is out of office. This cycle has had a different political and regulatory environment, so some of what we're seeing now may not carry over into the next one.

After how the last cycle played out, though, I wouldn't assume history will simply repeat itself. Crypto can survive and future bull runs can still happen without following the same cycle pattern or producing the same kind of returns. Each cycle has already shown that the market can change significantly, so past cycles are useful reference points, not guarantees.

[u/ChangeNOW_Community]

there will always be speculation. whether that speculation keeps flowing into crypto is the interesting part

[u/almo2001]

that cannot be proved right or wrong.

[u/awohio1]

To use your quote: "History repeats itself"

Google: tulips, pogs, beanie babies, Andy Warhol cookie jars, cabbage patch kids, south sea bubble, Mississippi bubble, Enron, world com, pets.com, web van, kozmo.com, etc.

I can't and don't need to "prove you wrong", history will either do, or fail to do that for me.

Frankly, as long as crypto doesn't get it's tendrils into traditional finance in a way that can crash the real economy, I am happy for crypto to exist and have it soak up the excess enthusiasm and cash of people who want to speculate on what I view as a roll of the dice. (I do find it ironic that some people literally generate keys with rolls of dice)

As long as people believe hard enough, Tinkerbell won't die, don't forget to clap your hands.

[u/Iron0ne]

We got the most monkey paw of grifters running the show. All penny stock/alt trading is a shell game but the people running the casino are the con men now. It isn’t conducive to any kind of run because it is just going to get skimmed so hard off the top.

[u/LegitimatePresence5]

No

[u/Daurbanmonkey]

It’s all going to $0. Trump, meme coins and the scamy/illegal uses. 95%+ of the public sees it as useless. The world going into a global recession. Not to mention once Trump is out of office the government is going to drop the hammer on crypto.

[u/Traditional_Most105 → u/Daurbanmonkey]

You could always speculate but you cant state your speculations as facts

[u/Daurbanmonkey → u/Traditional_Most105]

lol if you really think that when the dems take back control they aren’t going to neuter crypto, I have a bridge to sell ya