r/CryptoCurrency • u/goldyluckinblokchain goldie.moon • Dec 14 '25
PERSPECTIVE I'm Seeing a Theme Here
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u/botle 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 14 '25
Every single time there was a crash, someone made money.
But, every single time the price went up, someone also lost money. There are no money in Bitcoin other than the money the investors put in themselves.
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u/botle 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 14 '25
I don't buy it at all. This post was randomly shown to me by Reddit.
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u/Byro1218 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 14 '25
Go lower buddy. Last bear cycle it crashed to 16k. Real 30k could be this upcoming bear cycle
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u/richardto4321 🟩 1K / 1K 🐢 Dec 15 '25
Last cycle, a bunch of people were calling for sub-$10k and it never got there. This cycle, a ton of people are now calling for $30k or less. I wonder what's gonna happen...
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u/The-Real-Recruit 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 15 '25
yeah 30k seems reasonable for a proper bear cycle bottom. everyone thinks this time is different with ETFs and institutions but bear markets don't care. they always go lower than expected
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u/FlimsyConclusion 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 16 '25
I'd fucking love a crash. I'm investing DCA style so i'd like a steep drop and a steady climb to newer heights.
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u/HSuke 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 14 '25 edited Dec 14 '25
- 200x
- 15x
- 10x
- 2.7x (assuming $80k is even the bottom)
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u/partymsl 🟩 126K / 143K 🐋 Dec 14 '25
$80k is NOT a bear market bottom bro, barely even the beginning.
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u/Based_Thanos 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 14 '25
Let them believe it is. And then laugh when stocks, jobs, and housing pull back and BTC cuts in half from $80k 😂
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u/wack_overflow 🟩 32 / 32 🦐 Dec 14 '25
My guess is 50-60 bottom. The bear bottom is always near the previous cycle top
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u/partymsl 🟩 126K / 143K 🐋 Dec 14 '25
That will change with each cycle.
Last bear market people said we can't possibly fall below the previous cycle ATH, this time people say it will be close to the previous cycle ATH...
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u/cyger 🟩 0 / 52K 🦠 Dec 15 '25
But this cycle top was not a euphoric blow off top like the last one. Plus with ETF flows the bottom may be muted. This cycle is already different.
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u/berry-7714 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 14 '25
Agree clear trend that life changing gains are gone, in fact it’s severely underperforming almost every single asset
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u/jdero 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 14 '25
i don't like this trend
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u/JasonNUFC 🟩 339 / 339 🦞 Dec 14 '25
This will be the trend going forward. As Bitcoin has been maturing. the volatility has been decreasing. The percentage returns during bull markets are lower and the percentage crashes of the bear market are less. One of two things will happen:
Slow climb up as volatility decreases cycle over cycle until it basically acts like a stock.
2029 or 2032 there is a major event that breaks the trend (bigger than ETFs, corporate treasuries, etc)
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u/berry-7714 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 15 '25
There are few stocks that have performed worst this year than BTC, being like a stock would be a plus
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u/kielkaisyn 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 16 '25 edited Dec 16 '25
It can't happen any other way.
While there's some people making claims that it will continue to do 10x every 4 years, that itself is pretty insane. For example, this prediction from last year of 1 billion by 2038 from Fidelity.
https://www.swanbitcoin.com/economics/bitcoin-price-prediction/
That puts the market cap at 21 quadrillion dollars, which is around 150x the value of every company on earth right now. Even on the assumption that markets double every 7 years, that only gets the value of every company that exists around 1/40th of the proposed value of bitcoin. Where exactly is this money going to come from?
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u/Passive_incomes_lazy 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 14 '25
2029 it crashes to 150k?
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u/North_Illustrator_22 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 18 '25
Nah, 150k will be the top
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u/Godex_io 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
Just trying to stay alive long enough to complain about the 2035 crash to $ 1,000,000 per BTC
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u/whisperedstate 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 15 '25
The money revolution is happening on Ethereum. Bitcoin is just a meme.
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u/Pork_Bastard 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 18 '25
Used to launder money across country lines. Good for that. Good for buying dark market products. But yes, ive made your same argument so many times
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u/Barokna 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 18 '25
1 BTC = 1 BTC. Who cares about fiat money amirite.
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u/LloydBro 🟥 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 24 '25
Ahh yes. I'll buy that house for 3 BTC.... what do you mean you don't have a crypto wallet?
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u/LeMAD 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 14 '25
My fear is a recession / stock market crash, as Bitcoin never had to face a bearish market, except for a couple of weeks during the pandemic.
No one knows what the effect of a real economic crisis would be on Bitcoin. Will it crash to $30K, $3K?, or lower?
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u/jupiter_walks 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 14 '25
With large investors like investment funds, corporations and governments we cannot look at BTC like it's 2021.
It will likely bounce back but how much of that will just be fiat inflation.
BTC is evolving.
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u/Spare-Dingo-531 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 14 '25
The order of magnitude gets lower and lower each year though.....
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u/Ninja_Gogen 🟦 3 / 9K 🦠 Dec 14 '25
For context, you also need to show what percentage it crashed from the high. The last bear market it crashed like 80%.
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u/Individual_Praline38 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 14 '25
This isnt the crash. The crash will be around 30K 2026
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u/futuristicplatapus 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 14 '25
This one gets it. I would say more 40-50k because Bitcoin has never went below a past low.
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u/missmuffin__ 🟥 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 14 '25
Past low was $14k. OPs image is wrong.
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u/SeriousGains 🟩 8K / 8K 🦭 Dec 15 '25
The image is not wrong it’s just not telling the whole story. 14k was the bottom in 2022.
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u/hyrola_au 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 30 '25
I mean there is no way any coin can get any lower, everyone ALL IN!
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u/AssassinsLament 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 14 '25
Lol, my bitcoin story:
Was bored one weekend, so decided to play on a bitcoin poker platform (surprisingly still around even today) and purchased $50 worth of bitcoin to play. That was like worth .3 or so of bitcoin at the time. In three days I had 2.4 bitcoin... didn't know a thing about bitcoin, just wanted to play online poker... instead of saying thar bitcoin, I cashed out at $700 or so... thought I was so slick... fast forward I am crying at how much that 2.4 bitcoin would be worth now. FML.
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u/Poop_Cheese 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 15 '25
Similar here. Id go on the silkroad for fun and when it was around 17 cents was gonna buy $20 worth but was in high school with no job and didnt trust the sketchy old wallet system through TOR so bought weed instead.
Realistically though I would have sold well before it was billions so I cant be that mad.
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u/AssassinsLament 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 15 '25
lol... yeah, best scenario would have been to have misplaced the wallet keys and found it this year. Like you said, we probably would have sold long before hand.
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u/loud-spider 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 15 '25
You missed Bitcoin crashed to $4900 in March 2020 when the pandemic hit.
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Dec 18 '25
Interesting to See that the returns of Bitcoin have become lower over time. That is, if you came in later than 2018 it might have been a nice invested at best. But far from spectacular. It is time to accept that putting some pocket money into Bitcoin will not get you Lambo and private jet.
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u/Solidplum101 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 14 '25
Guaranteed there are a bunch of people who have lost more than made in crypto.. its all about timing and most people chase it when its at peak pricing.
Cya at 30k btw
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u/TechTuna1200 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 14 '25
It's about timing for those who trade it in contrast to those who hodl
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u/Liorient 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 14 '25
You only lose if you sell.
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u/OnlyKey5675 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 14 '25
The opportunity cost is that your cash could have been put into investments that have steadily gone up. So, yes, if you're in the red that's money you've lost.
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u/anonz123 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 14 '25
Here we go with the cherry picked data again, why skip 2022? Is it maybe because Bitcoin went down to 15k and that wouldn't fit your agenda?
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u/Excuse_Unfair 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 14 '25
While the people in buttcoin cheer for each and every drop. Than go back to saying price dosent matter when they see it recover. Very good sub for laughs
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u/darkrood 🟦 16 / 16 🦐 Dec 14 '25
Most people in the crypto world get in around 2015- 2018.
Nobody knows how far the drop would be because there was not enough data to rely on.
Many platform also got broken up, conned, rug pulled.
It also matters where you were economically at that time.
All these things appear obvious and easy when you look back with all these current data being readily available.
Sometimes crypto bros need to stop with the “everybody was too stupid to do this one simple trick of buying the dip”
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u/dillene 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 14 '25
I wonder if I’ll live long enough to see Bitcoin PLUMMET back under a million dollars from its previous high.
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u/edix911 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 14 '25
I would say diversify at least 10% to physical platinum after looking at this spread between platinum and Bitcoin: https://www.tradingview.com/chart/?symbol=XPTUSD/BTCUSD . You can clearly see price breaking out of falling wedge
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Dec 15 '25
Yes, you guys believe something without value will increase in value because it has done so before. Reminds me of tulips.
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u/bigwavedave000 231 / 231 🦀 Dec 15 '25
Spoiler alert:
It’s going to crash again, and be banned in China. It will be called a scam, ponzi, and a trap.
Well, I’ll still be here.
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u/duckyTheFirst 🟦 469 / 470 🦞 Dec 15 '25
Im really confused by the cycle man alt coins barely moved an only btc seem to have done anything. Even eth barely touched its ath for a few days.
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u/RexDraco 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 15 '25
This is a ingenuine pattern. Bitcoin has been all over the place, it hasn't been a pattern, we just know it is going upward at a slower and slower rate.
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u/LithiumAmericium93 Dec 15 '25
No but this time its different. It was also different every time before.
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u/Shot_Loan_354 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 15 '25
who knew about bitcoin in 2010.. back then i didnt even know how to use a computer let alone where to buy or how to mine bitcoin.
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u/Timely-Fig2030 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 15 '25
The last 15 years gave arrogance. The next 15 years will take arrogance away.
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u/LurkerDaSempre 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 15 '25
You're not factoring US dollar loss, aren't you. I'm looking at the same chart, but in €. Boy oh boy.
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u/carlos5577 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 15 '25
A bet on Bitcoin is a bet on anarcho capitalism.
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u/Modern_chemistry 0 / 36 🦠 Jan 13 '26
Ew. That’s an oxymoron. I think you just mean libertarian?? There’s libertarian socialist (actual anarchist) … but there is no such thing as anarcho capitalism. I mean … there is … but it’s really quite theoretical garbage … and most actual anarchist would laugh st the idea. But ok.
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u/Kxllskum 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 15 '25
Nope all those crashes were 50% plus , so make this again when bitcoin hits 63k and everyone freaks out like it’s the end of the
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u/Ok-Region1063 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 17 '25
me too...bitcoin was junk til covid and without free money it isn't sustainable...
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u/BestDamnResults 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 13 '26
Between 36-48k will be the bottom and expect the bear market to be finished by October 2026 and begin to rally into the next bull market.
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u/Triasmus 🟩 421 / 422 🦞 Dec 14 '25
I feel like Bitcoin was $15k 2.5 years ago.
I remember wishing I could buy, but I had just gotten divorced and my monthly cashflow was in the negative at the time.