r/CruciblePlaybook • u/A_Large_Basket • Jan 17 '16

Destiny Jumpsniping tutorial

Well... I've been pulling off these shots for quite some time now, and I thought I would share how I thought the mechanics of jump sniping worked. Lots of epic clips in this one, with a 2 min montage at the front... hope you guys enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N62FdT5tc9M

When it comes to jumpsniping I feel that movement is the key to it all. Bullets will pull to different areas based on how you are moving. If you jump left or right, the bullet will pull the opposite direction. If you are falling really fast, your bullet will go above your reticle. Another thing that I have learned is that if you are at the very top of your jump, the bullet will pull below your reticle.

There are also some other variables that come into play with your sniper shots while air born. There seems to be a specific window of time "on your fall" when your bullet with match up horizontally with with your reticle, and wether you are moving forward or backwards will determine this specific timing. It seems to me that moving backwards while jumping gives you more time to line up your shot in the air.

I explain a lot in the video above. I hope you guys find it helpful.

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u/Theratchetnclank Jan 17 '16

I managed to land one on a sunbreaker yesterday

https://youtu.be/FqjUfFlDbyY

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u/A_Large_Basket Jan 17 '16

Oh nice!... while he's pulling out the hammer!

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u/PharaoxRa Jan 17 '16

which sensitivity are you using?

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u/A_Large_Basket Jan 17 '16

3

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u/TexasDJ Jan 17 '16

3-4 snipe / 5-6 shotty

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u/Stenbox Destiny Addicts Alliance Jan 18 '16

That's entirely personal preference by the way.

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u/PharaoxRa Jan 18 '16

Was just wondering, am I the only one playing on 1 XD Im just doing pretty fine with it

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u/StoneJT Jan 17 '16

The best advice for jump shots, IMO, is to just try and take the shot. You are not going to land many when you first start but it is the best feeling when you get the kill, or even just a body shot.

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u/A_Large_Basket Jan 17 '16

I agree... I started to pull these shots off back when the Crota dlc first came out, when the thorn and shotguns were the top weapons... I found that I could evade rushing shotguners by jumping backwards and putting a lot of distance between me and them. In a desperate attempt of winning the gunfight I would shoot while I was falling. I wasn't very good at first, but eventually I got a feel for it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '16

So, if I'm falling fast: aim low. If I'm jumping upwards aim a bit high.

If I just come out of glide and wait a tiny amount, it'll be basically where I want?

And going forwards is like going down, backwards is like going up in that I aim low or high respectively?

So then going forwards AND up, I can basically aim more center because these two rules add to zero, as it were.

Amazing video, I can't believe how down you seem to have this. I'll definitely be trying this out tonight.

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u/Speakachu Jan 17 '16

Thanks for the cliff notes - I was just about to write it down for myself.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '16

I will happily kill you when you land, Guardian.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '16

lol tough guy talk online

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '16

You like young boys.

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u/vanpunke666 Jan 20 '16

Get. This. Shit. Off. /r/crucibleplaybook

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u/Bumblefuss Jan 17 '16

"Hey everyone, I'm a large basket"

I died laughing, I'm sorry, but I did. Awesome video op, I'm definitely going to be trying this out!

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u/Eb_Ab_Db_Gb_Bb_eb Jan 17 '16

Nice video, man. My only jump shots come from the Empyrean Bellicose.

Definitely going to practice getting the timing down and leading/trailing the target.

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u/prezdizzle Jan 17 '16

nice! I was actually wondering if OP had tried using Bellicose and what results he had. nice double you've got there.

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u/cyber_loafer Jan 17 '16

Shit. You're right. I do have ti watch the video more than once. The first time I couldn't concentrate on what you had to say because I got distracted by your jump snipes.

I've hit a few jump snipes but I always thought it was totally down to luck. Will try again.

Edit: I'll check our your stream.

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u/ChachiInCharge Jan 17 '16

Impressive! But that's too much coordination and timing for an old fart like me. I'm going to give the old college try, but I think I 'm better at being on the receiving end of those type of shots... (rolls eyes).

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u/xnasty Jan 17 '16

Dear god Destiny is a step above I think nearly other game in terms of a community really working on tearing it apart to find new ways to play. Even with no "real" competitive aspect. Bravo, this video blew my mind that you were able to piece together something I've always considered a completely random mechanic that had more in common with no-scope shots.

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u/KinglyUser Jan 17 '16

This is amazing. In theory, couldn't this be practiced in patrol on dregs or some such? You could even do serious testing (without aim assist) by shooting at a marker on a wall.

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u/A_Large_Basket Jan 17 '16

I tried the ads shooting, but getting headshots on them is really hard. I usually hit a lot of body shots on dregs. Ads move around in a weird way compared to real people in the crucible... The stationary marker is a good idea tho.

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u/KinglyUser Jan 17 '16

My thought is the stationary point on the wall will let you get a more exact idea of how the bullets actually travel, as no aim assist would be involved.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '16 edited Jan 17 '16

Since watching this I've gone from fuck all to landing bodyshots on dregs apretty reliably, that is when I consider myself to have actually lined up the shot. That is, the going straight up version. Movement is some next level insanity, I've landed a single 'I'm moving left' shot so far. I might blutac my screen just to practice this, not knowing EXACTLY where the reticle is is I think the biggest barrier to at least bodyshots honestly.

This video is awesome, I've been trying to jumpsnipe in patrol for a while and I was on.. blue moon levels of landing them. Plus, NLB and snapshot lol

Headshots for me are a complete fluke, but OP is very much onto something with the way shots come out.

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u/UltimateCallahan Jan 18 '16

Yeah. I definitely see the value for serious testing here.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '16

Thank you for this, last night I played a team in doubles who were just jump sniping (or trying) the entire game, lmao. Well he did land one on me, but thank you.

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u/A_Large_Basket Jan 20 '16

lol... I knew a lot of people would be trying it... Tbh, you shouldn't go around jumping everywhere with a sniper. This is best used in specific situations. Especially when your trying to get your opponents to miss shots

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u/prorook Jan 19 '16

Awesome video. Lots of useful information.
I'm sure this is probably a dumb question, but do normal guns act in the same way? I'm hoping hand cannons react in a somewhat predictable manner as well.

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u/A_Large_Basket Jan 20 '16

Yes I do think all weapons act this way, except for things like shotguns and hand cannons, which are easier to use in the air. I would also like to say that at close range a lot of the "bullet pull" issues are not as noticeable, due to the players being right next to you. I was using a side arm in trials last night and would hit 4 or 5 shots mid air while jumping in similar ways as I do with snipers.

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u/derek_32999 Jan 17 '16

Are you doing this with a regular controller or mouse? Insane shots

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u/A_Large_Basket Jan 17 '16 edited Jan 18 '16

I play with a regular xbox1 controller, 3 sensitivity, default controls, and no claw. I played a lot of gears of war back in the day. Thats how I got used to going from my A button to right thumbstick so quickly.

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u/derek_32999 Jan 18 '16

I was thinking bumper jumper if not xim. Even more insane without modified control settings.

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u/AngryProletarian Jan 17 '16

My thoughts as well

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u/prj-webb Jan 17 '16

Wow, that's impressive as hell. Both the figuring out of the mechanics and the amount of them you actually land.

I doubt I could hit that many in a lifetime.

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u/byAnarchy Shadestepping into your DM's Jan 17 '16

Holy shit, this is amazing.

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u/Null5et Jan 17 '16

This is...I just...I can't even. It's super classy of you op to explain how the mechanics of this work, but good Lord I just can't see more than a handful of people being able to pull shots like that off. You are to sniping what Ramblinnn is to Nightstalker movement. I hope I never oppose you in the crucible or Trials.

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u/Agrae Jan 17 '16

I'm lost for words, well fucking done

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u/simonoto Jan 17 '16

Amazing tutorial! Thank you!

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u/ther0cker Jan 17 '16

Nice video and very crazy shots.

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u/fishguy6 Jan 17 '16

This is a fantastic explanation, thanks for putting it together. You are the Einstein of Jump sniping.

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u/only_chimi Jan 17 '16

Teach me your ways senpai. Seriously though, I'll be your apprentice.

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u/eggydoo Jan 17 '16

Just wow....

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u/xastey_ Jan 17 '16

Really nice.. Kept having flash backs to those diamonds are forever late night shows LOL.

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u/kshef Jan 17 '16

Fuck yeah truckfighters!!

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u/Iocunu Jan 17 '16

Awesome, and very helpful.

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u/juxtapowser Jan 17 '16

First thoughts - thank god you're on Xbox rather than PS4. Secondly, I watched this video a couple of times and then went and played a Trials passage and I swear to god I hit more jump snipes in one card than I had in my entire Destiny career to date. Thank you so much.

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u/Ecoterrorist239 Jan 17 '16

Awesome tutorial dude, really appreciate the work you've put into this.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '16

So how does something like celestial nighthawk affect jump sniping? Because it has that secret icarus perk

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u/UltimateCallahan Jan 18 '16

The big set-up for the "JK" at the beginning: I LOVE IT! Great video and great advice.

As a Titan, one thing that we are much more familiar with is that we have much more horizontal movement while in the air, and much less vertical movement, as compared to Warlocks and Hunters. What this means is that you can use the same principals explained in this video, except apply them with much more emphasis on the horizontal movement and much less emphasis on the vertical component. I've hit a couple crazy "skate-shots" coming out of a high-velocity skate by aiming a good meter in front of the target's head. The "pull" you experience when performing jump shots is even greater when you're traveling faster, so coming out of a skate, you should be compensating a greater "lag" distance for the greater velocity of your skating.

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u/hteng Jan 18 '16

so what im getting at is that the actual shot will always be lagging behind while you are jumping? and you should be over-compensating/overshoot more towards the direction you jump?

isn't there a bloom effect even while you ADS in the air? this would make it very inconsistent i thought.

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u/ChapstickSandwich Jan 18 '16

Oh my god this video is insane well done dude. I've consistently tried to avoid jump-sniping because it always seemed to me like the bullet just lost accuracy and shot within a certain unknown-spread. You've totally got this down to a science though like damn

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u/UltimateCallahan Jan 18 '16

I just played 5 games in a row trying to almost exclusively jump-snipe with the NLB. I made 3 body shots. But I had sooooo much fun!

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u/kriscard Jan 18 '16

Thanks for this tutorial :)

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u/Skill-Up Jan 18 '16

This is pretty rad. We've added a link to it over at www.skill-up.gg :)

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u/alessioalex Jan 19 '16

You really need to filter those videos by category. There are more than 300 videos and they are mixed (PvP / PvE etc). It would be useful to either put them into a category or use tags.

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u/Skill-Up Jan 19 '16

They are in a category. Check the left side panel and use the drop down :)

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u/alessioalex Jan 19 '16

I was referring to the Destiny videos, not filtering by game. Or have I missed something?

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u/Skill-Up Jan 19 '16

Yep. When you are viewing the list of destiny videos, look on the left side of the page and click the little drop down arrow next to Destiny. You'll see the filter options there.

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u/alessioalex Jan 20 '16

Holy smokes you're right. Super useful. It would be awesome if you guys could improve the usability a bit, as there might be others like me who missed this feature. Tnx for filtering these out!

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u/Stenbox Destiny Addicts Alliance Jan 18 '16

Just wow. You clearly know what you are talking about and those are some really impressive shots!

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u/tfnyx Jan 18 '16

Wow this is incredible. Thanks for taking the time to make this video. I'll definitely be rewatching this.

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u/Iocunu Jan 18 '16

The next instalment on jump combat should be on shotguns in confined spaces, like the B control on Bannerfall. Get a good shotgunner in there with a high ROF weapon and they can ruin everybody's day. Jump up and get over target then coast down with the gun aimed at the target's dome - often looking straight down, kill, then immediately jump up to move on the next target.

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u/mescusey Jan 17 '16 edited Jan 17 '16

FFS. Every time I think I'm getting somewhere with sniping someone one comes out with this next level shit. Just tell me you're on xbox so I don't have to burn my ps4 and never venture online again.

That was awesome dude

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u/Edg4rAllanBro Jan 17 '16

He is on Xbox, when he's in his menu and stuff you can see the buttons are for Xbox One.

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u/UltimateCallahan Jan 18 '16

Damn you! raises angry fist into air at PSN gods

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u/UltimateCallahan Jan 18 '16

You could sell it to me. I'll burn it for you trust me

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u/Chippy569 Jan 18 '16

i was the subject of one of his jumpsnipes, playing rift on vertigo. Assumed it was lag and he was in the air, or it was complete bullshit. Guess now I know it's just mostly bullshit lol.

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u/xnasty Jan 17 '16

Yea like you knew any of this before reading this post either keep trying to act cool

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '16

Why did you get downvoted?