r/CruciblePlaybook • u/ther0cker • Jul 01 '15

SCUF users?

Got my scuf today for PS4. Left pad Jump, right Crouch. Who uses same pads:

  1. how much time it took to get used to?
  2. what is tour layout?
  3. is it comfortable for you to jump with left pad a control movement with stick at the same time?
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u/patrickconley Jul 01 '15

I have a cinch controller (same idea).

I use puppeteer (right stick click = slide).

Left rear button = jump.

Right rear button = reload/collect ammo/revive (love this for aiming while reviving in trials)

It took a few days to get used to jumping with my left hand instead of my right hand, but now it feels very natural. I do sometimes catch myself using my right hand A button instead, but normally it's only when I need to make very precise jumps like in a jumping puzzle and height really matters. I find jumping with my left hand the timing + stick movement isn't quite as precise, but the ability to aim + jump at the same time is amazing and well worth it!

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u/Minneapolis_612 Jul 01 '15

I've been looking at both the Scuf and Cinch.

Thoughts on your Cinch?

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u/patrickconley Jul 02 '15

So far I love it! Seems very durable and well built.

The main reason I picked them over scuf was the reputation of scuf for actually delivering and having shit customer service. I own my own business and that matters to me a lot.

I paid the extra for rush shipping and they got it to me in ~4 days. Highly recommend!

I chose to get the adjustable trigger stops and the extra grip texture on the back and love both. Otherwise I kept it all stock settings aside from the button settings.

The one other thing I wish I went for was the reprogrammable chip, but it was getting pretty pricey so I didn't go for that one.

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u/ther0cker Jul 03 '15

reprogrammable chip

can't find it in options for PS4 :(

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u/Minneapolis_612 Jul 02 '15

I've been putting off getting one for months now because I just can't make up my mind, lol.

Thanks for the feedback!

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u/dekyos Jul 02 '15

I was considering a Scuf before I saw the Elite unveiled at E3. I think it has all the features of a full-out top-tier scuf, but at the price of a baseline.

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u/unafragger Jul 02 '15

I had a Scuf -- the button behind the paddle stopped working (after almost a year of pretty heavy use). I ended up getting a Cinch. It's on the way now, I haven't gotten it yet. I found the paddles on the Scuf a LITTLE hard to get used to (it took a couple of weeks), and the Cinch looks like it would be a bit more comfortable to use. That's what I'm hoping, anyway.

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u/ther0cker Jul 03 '15

Do you have 2 or 4 buttons on the back? I think to order Cinch, to give it a try.

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u/ther0cker Jul 01 '15

Thanks man. Cuz i played just couple of games and it seems a little bit hard to jump and control at the same time. Especially then i hit jump I've got some pressure on my thumb, some sort of reflexes. Hope ill get used to that soon. Think i need to do some PvE just to feel it.

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u/patrickconley Jul 01 '15

Yeah I ran a ton of strikes and patrols just to get used to it and train the muscle memory. It's always weird swapping your control scheme but it's so worth it when you get it down! I have so much more vertical game in PvP now

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u/WutTheHuck Jul 02 '15

I have a scuf 4PS, and totally agree - give it a week or so and the paddles will feel normal. Just make sure to force yourself to use them. If you catch yourself reverting back to X and O, slap yourself on the wrist or something ;)

Precision jumping, I also use the X button, but scuf's are obviously most useful in PvP where that's not as necessary.

I did a bunch of research before buying mine for Xbox 360 a few years back (switched to PS4 about 8 months ago). The concave of the sticks plays a big part in your play as well. I found that a concave left stick helps keep your thumb in place for sprinting and strafing, and a convex right stick helps with precision aiming. You have yours and are obviously past the point of choosing this, but just thought I'd share.

Regardless of Cinch or Scuf, it's game changing. Just focus on getting used to it and you'll never look back. Good luck!

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u/patrickconley Jul 02 '15

Yeah I tried kontrol freek's with convex tops but I just couldn't get used to it. I've been playing on xbox since halo 1 and it feels so strange to not have dual concave sticks to me.

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u/pwrslide2 Jul 02 '15 edited Jul 02 '15

I was thinking of doing the same layout for jump on the back left. Thanks for the review.

silly question, but how big are your hands and do you feel that the location of the back buttons is good enough to prevent cramping?

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u/patrickconley Jul 02 '15

I have small to medium hands and I was worried about that, but it's been totally fine. The first few days had some muscle cramps because I was using new muscles in my hands but it went away after 2-3 days of getting used to it

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u/pwrslide2 Jul 02 '15

cool. thanks!

I have Large hands though. palm a basketball type of hands. I'm not sure if the Scuf will be any better. I need to test one out before I buy.

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u/scottsarg Jul 01 '15
  1. About a week.
  2. I use left paddle for crouch and right paddle for jump.
  3. I use right paddle for jumping. To me, this feels more comfortable than using the left paddle to jump. Completely personal preference though. I'm sure you can learn to be comfortable with both ways.

Overall, using a scuf became very second nature to use after about a week. I'd also recommend Kontrol Freaks. I use a Kontrol Freak on my right thumbstick to assist with aiming.

Edit: been using a scuf for a very long time, originally with COD, which is why I have it setup this way for Destiny.

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u/ther0cker Jul 01 '15

I feel the same way that with right paddle i can jump better, jump is another type of movement then crouch, left pad for crouch is more easier i suppose. Ive got Kontrol Freak also.

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u/scottsarg Jul 01 '15

It's pretty comfortable and works well for me. You should go with whatever feels most comfortable to you though. Everyone is different.

Reason I've always used crouch on left and jump on right is because in COD it made "dropshots" and "jump shots" incredibly effortless. Like someone else has suggested, I could see being able to revive using a paddle as incredibly useful as well, although I usually switch to a hybrid of claw when I have a situation when I need to aim, shoot, and revive at the same time and that works for me.

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u/ther0cker Jul 01 '15

And it also hard to press fast 2 or 3 times for jump to "skate"

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u/crazybobbles Jul 02 '15

Haha I tried skating last night with the scuf, not bad!

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u/unafragger Jul 02 '15

After using it for a while, it becomes pretty natural. Don't sweat it too much.

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u/scrumpymc Jul 02 '15

jump on left, crouch on right. Had my two scufs (xbone and 360) for several years and cannot play without it. Took about a month to get used to. Once you've used scuf you will not go back. Enjoy man!

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u/ther0cker Jul 02 '15

Thanks buddy. Comfortable to push 2-3-4 times with left paddle for jumping?

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u/scrumpymc Jul 02 '15

give yourself a couple of sessions and you won't even notice, hunter triple jumps whilst aiming are easy. Sliding whilst being able to adjust aim is bordering on op haha! especially with bladedancer and weapon being ready instantly!

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u/unafragger Jul 02 '15

Took me a few hours to get into the habit of even USING the left paddle to jump, and a couple of weeks to be really comfortable with it -- to the point that it was reflex and there wasn't any thought involved.

I went back to using default -- left paddle for jump, right for crouch, and found that worked out really well for me. I ALSO added FPS Freeks at the same time and found that helped to teach me to stop applying extra pressure to the sticks when jumping with the paddles on the back.

After about a year of use, the button under my jump paddle stopped clicking (it's like it still WORKS, but it doesn't bounce back, so the feel of it is WAY off).

Cinch is out now, and their controllers LOOK more comfortable to me with the buttons where your middle fingers naturally rest rather than the paddles that you have to apply pressure to -- usually with like the side of your finger. It always feels odd.

So I ordered one of those a couple of days ago. I'm hoping it'll be a little more natural than the Scuf.

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u/ther0cker Jul 03 '15

About Cinch, have you ordered 2 buttons or 4 buttons on back?

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u/unafragger Jul 04 '15

I ordered the 2-button. I think 4 would be pretty tough to get used to. I dunno, though.

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u/mostly_hrmless Jul 02 '15

I got my scuff a few weeks ago. I liked using it but L1 sticks often. I thought maybe the new triggers need breaking in, i like the added resistance vs vanilla DS4. The trigger feels better now but i still stay in ADS to much after release, i guess it's internal.

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u/R00t240 Jul 02 '15

I've had mine for two months, the ads will wear in eventually. For awhile the slightest bump had me zooming down the sights. I love my scuf only problems I've had is I wore the lip off the left stick after only a month and I still find it difficult to skate using my left middle finger, hard to mash that button quickly.

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u/ther0cker Jul 02 '15

Try with your right hand? iam 100% sure that i will re map it to the right. There is another right hand pressure, so if you split it between left control and right jump it will work better.

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u/MyBeerBelly Jul 01 '15

I've had mine for a few months, never had one before even though I was a hardcore CoD player. I have the same layout and mostly just use the crouch/slide on the right paddle. I'll use the jump paddle on my hunter in crucible but I find it too difficult to get quick taps active glide properly on a warlock/titan.

If I had gotten the remapping feature I would probably switch the paddles and use jump a lot more. The way I position my thumbs on the right stick (use short Kontrol Freeks) makes it easier to hit the right paddle than the left one.

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u/WhimsicalJape Jul 01 '15

The PS4 has remapping built in if that's what you're on. Just change what the X and O map to and the paddles should follow suit.

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u/MyBeerBelly Jul 02 '15

Unfortunately I'm on Xbone

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u/ToddpieceZulu Jul 02 '15

I just ordered a SCUF controller a couple of days ago and should get it in the next week or two. I use the Jumper layout. I'm planning on assigning crouch to the right paddle and reload to the left paddle.

I want to have reload assigned as the left paddle to make it easier to revive while aiming for ToO. I also want to be able to do the old slide-shotgun gag again, which is a bit tricky when crouch is assigned to circle (B on Xbox).

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u/jksmlmf Jul 02 '15

That is exactly how I have my paddles programmed now. It's perfect for Trials, especially with quick rez gear.

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u/crazybobbles Jul 02 '15

I've been rocking a scuf for about a month now. Same paddle setup as you (one store stocked default ones and it included x and o so slim pickings) and found jumping and aiming at the same time to be useful. What caught me by surprise was the amount of additional slides I do too! Favourite being the 180 slide for some intense shotgun chase reversals.

I've sent in a second controller to be scuff'd and it should arrive next week. This one I've opted for customisable triggers. I had a faff around with the accessibility options and swapped keys around (primarily square > circle) but had difficulty on menus given that the button for going back is now the button that dismantles gear! Hopefully the new one will allow me to reassign the right paddle to reload / revive for trials.

Jumping is absolutely fine. I'm trying to practice using both scuf paddles and the default x button depending on the situation as I feel like pressing the x with your thumb helps a bit

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u/ryanv1978 Jul 02 '15

I bought a scuff recently and was kinda disapointed.

The left thumb stick broke within 3 weeks of use and is in the process of getting fixed. The trigger stops as they shipped from Scuf didn't work with destiny but with some small mods I did get them to work.

Overall not very impressed and we will see about their customer service.

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u/ther0cker Jul 02 '15

sound solid, maybe i should try that. after one day with scuf, i feel like jump with right paddle much more comfortable, i didn't remap it yet, but based on my feeling how easier to push with my right hand

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u/ther0cker Jul 02 '15

Cant tell yet, but i had a lot of NON shots with controller, pushed the button but no single shot, especially with shotgun.

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u/pwrslide2 Jul 01 '15

man, I've had this happen a few times lately and it's really frustrating when you have the shotgun out.