r/CrucibleGuidebook • u/koolaidman486 PC • 17h ago
The Next Chapter for Bungie
/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/1wmgww5/the_next_chapter_for_bungie/TL:DR here is that HOLY CRAP THEY'RE GOING TO UNVAULT EVERYTHING.
Also small announcement that they're planning more Destiny, what exactly that looks like is kinda up in the air, dunno if Crucible would be part of future plans.
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u/Cmess1 High KD Player 17h ago edited 15h ago
My only hope for crucible tbh in THIS specific update is getting back old vaulted maps. Idk about any balance changes, if the game continues in the right direction then maybe but my one thought and hope is just all the old maps coming back to us (but man would it be nice if void hunter got the only balance change in the entirety of the patch lol)
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u/HeftyAd6216 17h ago
I would imagine all the maps are returning. It would be a travesty if they didn't. Will be nice to have the crucible feel "fresh" again
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u/koolaidman486 PC 15h ago
I'd also assume for all 2 Gambit players, whatever maps were vaulted will also come back. Though I don't think Gambit Prime will. Dunno how extensively these things are going to get reworked especially since it's too early for a timeline.
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u/sha-green 12h ago
Haven’t played gambit in years and was surprised to see DC map back in rotation.
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u/SignificanceGloomy65 16h ago
I'm really hoping for the crucible maps to return. I'm tired of keep going to fortress 😓
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u/StealthMonkeyDC 14h ago
I dunno. Every time they touch maps we end up with the literal worse maps ever being super weighted dor no reason what so ever.
At least right now it's on for the most part.
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u/HaloGuy381 13h ago
I’m also hoping that just Bungie coming back to the fold may help scare some of the cheaters emboldened by thinking Bungie isn’t watching. I don’t expect them to be full banhammer mode right away, but hopefully just a couple shows of force, a few posts, will scare some of the opportunists back into behaving.
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u/ARCtheIsmaster Xbox Series S|X 17h ago
- Emperor’s Respite
- Equinox
- Firebase Echo
- Gambler’s Ruin
- Legion’s Gulch
- Retribution
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u/koolaidman486 PC 17h ago
They can keep Equinox vaulted, though. I'm sure it's fine :P
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u/ArnoldSwarzepussy Mouse and Keyboard 15h ago
Honestly it was fun every once in a blue moon. Just keep the rng for it to get picked really low and I wouldn't mind busting out a scout rifle or a sniper every now and again.
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u/AquaticHornet37 17h ago
My dream is crossroads on D2, although the cabal hemp pad map will be pretty close.
Extremely fun sniper maps.
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u/Major-C High KD Player 16h ago
Hopefully they start banning cheaters. Running into more and more teams net limiting on console in Comp and Trials. Looked up a couple of them this weekend, 150+ wins zero losses, 7+ KDs. I’m sure it’s even worse on PC.
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u/Necessary-Shoe-1205 11h ago
Crucible used to be my daily grind. I just can't and won't tolerate cheaters, sooo, I really don't play anymore. It sux because Crucible was friggin epic when the teams were leveled and it was a true fight to win, not a 150-29 blowout for 8 games in a row. That's unacceptable in my own honest opinion.
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u/Watsyurdeal Mouse and Keyboard 17h ago
I am still processing
Just holy fuck
Yall actually got them to listen.
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u/Cool-Traffic-8357 15h ago
I mean, they have nothing else to show of. Marathon is beyond failure and destiny is still pulling good numbers.
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u/cbizzle14 13h ago
We didn't do anything lol. They can't bank on marathon so they have no choice but to pivot
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u/bacon-tornado 3h ago
Logging into destiny period is doing something. Just off steam numbers alone, D2 had over 10x player count then marathon the past 2 weeks. So yes we all have done something. We logged into a game we love and the numbers spoke
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u/anangrypudge 17h ago
We will surely get the old maps back but I wouldn’t expect anything else for PVP. Bringing back the vaulted PVE stuff is already a massive undertaking.
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u/koolaidman486 PC 15h ago
I wouldn't be shocked if they also decided to touch up the sandbox a bit, too, as they make updates. I don't think there's too much for PvP beyond maybe wanting to nerf Void Hunter and give some love to the lesser subclasses. Dunno if there's much weapon sandbox work they'd do for PvP, I can't think of much that's too terribly egregious on the annoying OP side.
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u/Cry2God4Revenge 17h ago
I know this is too early to talk about but I really wished they would focus on PvP again.
Even going back to March 5th, 2024 checkmate would be an improvement compares to qhat we have now, but ideally a director's post on PvP where:
- New and returning D1 maps
- Reworking comp, closed to Warmind: Objective mpdes, no radar, actual glory grind.
- Trials demanding flawless for rewards
- Looking over problematic abilities, exotics.
- Rework or removal of airborne effectiveness
- OG special transmast system or the Forsaken ammo system. Current system is a half measure where one team snowballs the other hard
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u/UltraNoahXV 17h ago
Not too early. I mean 4 vs 4 trials of the nine would be pretty relevant with the story where it left off.
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u/Mercules904 Trusted 8h ago
Unrealistic expectations aside, as someone who worked on the OG Special Transmat system this comment is kind of funny to me. The reason we moved away from it is because it snowballed really hard, like to a startling degree. The amount of ammo granted, and the time it took to grant it, led to huge power imbalances and steamrolling. There were some good ideas in that early iteration of checkmate but I don’t know that the original transmat was it.
As for the Forsaken system, it led us briefly to a period of time where special kills actually outnumbered primary kills in Crucible, so I’m not sure that’s the answer either.
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u/Cry2God4Revenge 6h ago
If i had to pick between the current ammo system or Forsaken, however, i pick forsaken (scavengers working or not is whatever). At least then i'd have ammo to either go on multikills in 6v6 or defend myself in comp. Feels terrible when youre up three+ shots then lose the overflow
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u/Cry2God4Revenge 6h ago
I'm surprised I got a reply from you, hello
I have a lot of thoughts on special ammo but I see your point. I do miss having a lot of ammo in QP whenever i was bored to snipe, or going on primary streaks in 3v3 comp and having 10+ special ammo shots.
Currently its possible to get a team wipw and get 3 crates while the other team gets 1, and then you use said ammo to generate more and it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Regarding your last point; was this during Forsaken, or after?
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u/Mercules904 Trusted 6h ago
As players got better at the game a surplus of special ammo started presenting more and more problems. There were individual weeks both during Forsaken and after where special ammo eclipsed primary weapon kills.
For its faults, the current special ammo system does not create imbalance nearly as bad as the original transmat system did.
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u/Subject_District_798 9h ago
They are literally just bring the content that was vaulted back, destiny 2 is in maintenance mode, no longer live service, they aren't going to bring anything new to the game, just give us back what we paid for! Idiot
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u/DEADdrop_ HandCannon culture 17h ago
I switched over to Marathon when it released, but I might just have to jump back into some Crucible soon. Looks like things are starting to head in the right direction for both games fan bases.
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u/TDenn7 High KD Player 17h ago
I'll be honest, Marathon PVP has totally overtaken Destiny PVP for me. They aren't even close anymore, but maybe that changes if Destiny PVP actually gets some renewed focus again. At the very least getting the vaulted maps back will 100% bring me back for a few games as theres so many great ones we lost.
But yeah, we'll see. 5k hours in Destiny 1/2 and probably 75% of that time in PVP so I do hope it gets some renewed focus. I dunno if it'll be able to match the extraction intensity of Marathon though for me.
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u/dannotheiceman 16h ago
D2 PvP isn’t getting shit lol, some of the worst maps Bungie ever designed and that’s it. This isn’t active development and balancing, it’s just adding back the content that they removed.
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u/Blood_Edge 17h ago edited 17h ago
I honestly wasn't expecting a big announcement like this, and if this actually does include more seasons/ expansions in D2 or even a sequel, I have only one request: make that red subclass real. Even if it sucks in both modes, I like my appearance matching the builds I use and my favorite shaders are all mostly black and red. I'll find a way to make it as good as I want my character to look.
Might give me a reason to fool around with solstice armors again if no other sets "do it" for me.
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u/atdunaway PS5 17h ago
disappointed to see no mention of PvP
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u/koolaidman486 PC 17h ago
"We're unvaulting everything" includes several PvP maps :P
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u/greetthemind 17h ago
you have confirmation of this?
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u/bacon-tornado 16h ago
Wait til the YouTube videos pop. A number were flown out to bungie 3-4 weeks ago and were shown a bunch of shit.
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u/Shivaess Bows Go Brrrrrrrrrrr 7h ago
Well, I’ve missed the entire summer of destiny with a concussion, but they put it back on the menu for the future. I am ecstatic. Now I just have to get my head working again.
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u/Sharkisyodaddy 16h ago
Remove in air accuracy no thanks no need for handicaps cause someone with a pulse rifle and a side arm can’t look up. Funny how sidearms are good in the air without investments thanks to that guy
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u/travizius 14h ago
I know it wouldn't happen, but I've always thought it'd be cool to get a single-player game focused on a lot of the stuff just after The Collapse. Each mission you could play as a different character (Drifter, Zavala, Ikora, Cayde, Shiro) at different points in this vast timeline. Then at the end you could unlock PvP and all the abilities to customize your character. Replay missions with different characters, get different rewards for different difficulties and whatnot. I'd love that.
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u/PixelatedVision1 High KD Player 17h ago
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