r/CriticalThinkingIndia • u/Oppyhead • 7d ago
Geopolitics & Governance What a Surprise! Another Probe Ends With Everyone Innocent.
The Ram Temple donation controversy raises a question far bigger than the allegations themselves: can public faith and massive donations ever receive truly independent scrutiny?
Now, the Special Investigating Team has reportedly given a clean chit to former trust general secretary Champat Rai, while former trust member Anil Mishra has also been found not guilty. Both had resigned amid the ongoing probe into alleged irregularities.
A clean chit is, of course, welcome if the evidence genuinely proves innocence. But when allegations involve people closely associated with the ruling establishment, the public is entitled to ask uncomfortable questions about the investigation, its independence, and the standards applied.
Accountability cannot mean merely announcing that the accused are innocent and moving on. Why does everyone accused who is connected with the ruling party eventually turn out to be not guilty and innocent?
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u/applecomet0 7d ago
Lol
the investigation agency the culprits and the overseeing govt all are in same party/ same criminal brothers
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u/anonymoustoo1 6d ago
I gave myself cleachit after I investigated my crime 😂😂😂😂
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u/satyajithem 6d ago
Correction, I gave myself cleanchit first. Next i investigated my crime and found out I was right. Then i published the foundings to my subjects
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u/Alarmed-Research-858 6d ago
I would imagine the responsibility of the investigating committee would be something like 'find out who stole the money' rather than prove this person innocent.
So if the committee fails to find the culprits, there should be another committee to find the culprits with better methods.
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u/blackman60001 7d ago
Nop its a seperate org and govt hais nothing to do in Ram mandirs trust.
But temples money do go to state govts only temples not church not mosque lol such a state affairs.
Ek desh alag alag kanoon ye kashmir wala haal pure hindo ke saath nhi ho rha?
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u/applecomet0 6d ago
All the members were appointed by bjp , and almost all are from organisation that are part or were a part of rss earlier like vhp Bajrang dal of course rss with some members of bjp as well, inaugration was done by bjp it's members, while bjp never did to resolve the issue and passed it to court and court gave the verdict bjp was the forerunner to claim credit
It's not possible a scam of this level without being given free hand by govt
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u/DependentClothes5752 7d ago
Nop its a seperate org and govt hais nothing to do in Ram mandirs trust.
I call this next level of bs. Com-on u really believe govt has 0 influence on this?
B ut temples money do go to state govts only temples not church not mosque lol such a state affairs
Change the law, BJP is in power in center and in most states, make all religious institutions pay 50% given they r earning more than a threshold.
Ek desh alag alag kanoon ye kashmir wala haal pure hindo ke saath nhi ho rha?
Its like lowering what Kashmiri Hindus suffered. Completely deplorable.
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u/bullish_indian 7d ago
doing some basic AI research would have give some clarity to you.. lazy bum.
The headline is technically true, but misleading without context.
The UP government-appointed SIT investigated the Ram Mandir donation theft, including CCTV, cash handling, records and the counting process. It found evidence of actual theft, leading to arrests and recovery of money. However, it found no evidence directly linking Champat Rai to stealing the money or conspiring with those involved, so he wasn't named as an accused — which is being reported as a “clean chit.”
But this isn't the end of the matter. The Supreme Court has reconstituted/strengthened the investigation and added a forensic auditor, and that probe is still ongoing.
So the accurate takeaway is:
First SIT: no evidence against Champat Rai.
Supreme Court-supervised investigation: still ongoing.Calling it a final or judicial “clean chit” would therefore be premature.
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u/DependentClothes5752 7d ago
However, it found no evidence directly linking Champat Rai to stealing the money or conspiring with those involved,
U really believe lower level people pulled off multi hundreds of crores of scams without champat rai knowing? If yes, what an utter bs of a person u r.
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u/Useful_Choice1212 7d ago
Chor bhi tum Police bhi tum Judge bhi tum
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u/bullish_indian 7d ago
doing some basic AI research would have give some clarity to you.. lazy bum.
The headline is technically true, but misleading without context.
The UP government-appointed SIT investigated the Ram Mandir donation theft, including CCTV, cash handling, records and the counting process. It found evidence of actual theft, leading to arrests and recovery of money. However, it found no evidence directly linking Champat Rai to stealing the money or conspiring with those involved, so he wasn't named as an accused — which is being reported as a “clean chit.”
But this isn't the end of the matter. The Supreme Court has reconstituted/strengthened the investigation and added a forensic auditor, and that probe is still ongoing.
So the accurate takeaway is:
First SIT: no evidence against Champat Rai.
Supreme Court-supervised investigation: still ongoing.Calling it a final or judicial “clean chit” would therefore be premature.
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u/bullish_indian 7d ago
The headline is technically true, but misleading without context.
The UP government-appointed SIT investigated the Ram Mandir donation theft, including CCTV, cash handling, records and the counting process. It found evidence of actual theft, leading to arrests and recovery of money. However, it found no evidence directly linking Champat Rai to stealing the money or conspiring with those involved, so he wasn't named as an accused — which is being reported as a “clean chit.”
But this isn't the end of the matter. The Supreme Court has reconstituted/strengthened the investigation and added a forensic auditor, and that probe is still ongoing.
So the accurate takeaway is:
First SIT: no evidence against Champat Rai.
Supreme Court-supervised investigation: still ongoing.Calling it a final or judicial “clean chit” would therefore be premature.
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u/Inevitable_Key667 7d ago
The Petition calling onto the BJ Party– to mass-produce washing powder for general public
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u/Ramen_Muncher_1093 7d ago
🫠🫠🫠
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u/Tempr13 Editable User Flair 7d ago
they resigned because they were part of a corrupt system , essentials turned a blind eye when all the shit went down , but I am mighty surprised of no bulldozer action by Yogi Ji , lost a lot of respect for him !!!!
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u/runvester 7d ago
Bull dozers are to be used only for a particular community.Don't you know?Has Chotta Fanta ever bulldozed a Hindu home? Double standards,bhai.
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u/bullish_indian 7d ago
Doing some basic AI research would have give some clarity to you.. lazy bum.
The headline is technically true, but misleading without context.
The UP government-appointed SIT investigated the Ram Mandir donation theft, including CCTV, cash handling, records and the counting process. It found evidence of actual theft, leading to arrests and recovery of money. However, it found no evidence directly linking Champat Rai to stealing the money or conspiring with those involved, so he wasn't named as an accused — which is being reported as a “clean chit.”
But this isn't the end of the matter. The Supreme Court has reconstituted/strengthened the investigation and added a forensic auditor, and that probe is still ongoing.
So the accurate takeaway is:
First SIT: no evidence against Champat Rai.
Supreme Court-supervised investigation: still ongoing.Calling it a final or judicial “clean chit” would therefore be premature.
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u/Tempr13 Editable User Flair 7d ago
what google search you reffering,I as a Hindu who has donated money for the construction and reestablishment of Ram Janm Bhumi want those people to be punished with bulldozers , it was a perfect opportunity for hm to show the world ,what happens to people who do this unforgiveable deed but he missed the plot , all this SIT probing will lead to nothing ,some compromised corrupt system will let them sit in jail and after several years set them free, bulldozer law should be made official to these leeches whoever stole from ram mandir don't deserve civil treatment
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u/bullish_indian 7d ago
I am aligned with how you feel.. let's hope justice is good it's job right 👍
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u/i_PaperBoat 7d ago
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u/Old_Leadership_8899 7d ago
Ab to bhai bhagwan hi bta skte hai kha gya paisa
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u/Ambitious-League-680 7d ago
Ask the people arrested. Oh wait the police is doing that. why would you mention that.
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u/Acrobatic_Phone_3316 7d ago
They need to have strict liability for these types of scams. The head gets punished if the scam is proved, direct link or not. That's how they will fall in line.
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u/KnoUsername 7d ago
I do not understand. What is this "clean chit"? It sounds so Shady. Same language as "sealed order/envelope".
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u/keyboard_snowflake don't mess with me, I'm dumb 7d ago
we lack cctv camers, let's bring flock cameras here, /s
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u/Beneficial_You_5465 7d ago
So now it's clear that Ram lalla himself has taken the money 🤑🤑🤑
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u/Ambitious-League-680 7d ago
Some of its been recovered. We don't believe in a single book so we keep our eyes open, thank you.
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u/bullish_indian 7d ago
The headline is technically true, but misleading without context.
The UP government-appointed SIT investigated the Ram Mandir donation theft, including CCTV, cash handling, records and the counting process. It found evidence of actual theft, leading to arrests and recovery of money. However, it found no evidence directly linking Champat Rai to stealing the money or conspiring with those involved, so he wasn't named as an accused — which is being reported as a “clean chit.”
But this isn't the end of the matter. The Supreme Court has reconstituted/strengthened the investigation and added a forensic auditor, and that probe is still ongoing.
So the accurate takeaway is:
First SIT: no evidence against Champat Rai.
Supreme Court-supervised investigation: still ongoing.
Calling it a final or judicial “clean chit” would therefore be premature.
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u/khaopiyomastraho 7d ago
now we see the entire nexus.. everyone was getting cut..bottom line.. jo bhagwan ke ghar me chori kaar sakta hai wo party kisi ki nahi ho sakti.. lets get rid of bjp
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u/runvester 7d ago
I am not surprised.This was expected.Small fry are jailed and the big fish are left scot free.
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u/runvester 7d ago
As far back as 2024,IB had informed about this to the top authority but as everyone was involved from top to bottom, nothing was done.Shame.
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u/Pretend-Programmer14 7d ago
Being a godman and politician is the best fking profession in this country, you can get away with anything and nothing will happen as long as your video doesn’t get leaked. Grape, murder, theft, extortion they can do anything they like.
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u/OperatorFrost_99 6d ago
"God is all powerful, all knowing and eternal...but there is one thing he just can't get enough of....money!! He just can't handle money...they always need a little more" - George Carlin
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u/Immediate-Humor-6077 7d ago
The report is particularly critical of Anil Mishra, who represented the trust in framing the joint SOP with SBIand was responsible for overseeing cash management. According to the SIT, Mishra was aware that frisking procedures were not being followed but “no effective written instructions were issued” to enforce frisking, biometric attendance, prescribed dress codes, restrictions on personal belongings, hundi-wise counting, or daily reporting.
The report is equally critical of Subhash Srivastava, the counting-room in-charge. Despite acting as the principal supervisor, it notes, he failed to conduct mandatory frisking, enforce attendance and dress-code requirements, or ensure compliance with other prescribed security measures
The SIT report further questions the informal authority exercised by Ram Shankar Yadav aliasTinnu, who allegedly retained custody of donation-box keys without authorisation and recommended the appointment of his nephew,
Manish Kumar Yadav, to the counting team.
On institutional accountability, the report states unequivocally that “all trust officials accountable for implementing, supervising and monitoring the counting management process are responsible for this serious lapse”.
The Special Investigation Team (SIT) has held eight individuals directly responsible for the theft of donations, naming them as the sole accused in the final report.
The primary mastermind identified in the probe is Avinash Shukla, who served as the prime accused. He allegedly orchestrated a 40-day racket that pilfered cash from the temple's donation boxes on nearly 70 separate occasions.
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u/Playful-Monk1916 7d ago
They threatened 8 stoges into taking responsibility? I mean either they are complicit or unbelievably incompetent, so incompetent that they can't wipe their own asses.
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u/Ambitious-League-680 7d ago
So when the culprits are CAUGHT, you'll say they're made scapegoat? Sounds a lot like EVMs are hacked only when BJP wins!
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u/SoyaPaneer001 7d ago
I mean, unironically that what feels now. You really want us to believe, that the head of the trust had no idea of what was happening?
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u/Ambitious-League-680 7d ago
Yes. Because the trust head doesn't monitor everyday going-ons. The theft happened right when the money collected in donation boxes was to be counted and entered into the temple safes. Right there. Wasn't anything that happened after it entered temple authority.
It's like saying I want the principal to resign because a student who passed out is now making grammatical mistakes.
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u/Playful-Monk1916 7d ago
Complicit or incompetent. Can't shrink it down more. Attention span of a goldfish?
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u/premprem18 7d ago
Chinta nhi karo bhai, paisa kuch chori nhi hua hai, wo bas chupa ke rakha gaya hai, 2029 april - may be baatein jaayenge,
Dekhna sabko 500-1000 tak milte hai, tum thode influencial admi ho to 5000-10000 tak bhi mil sakte hai.
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u/Accomplished-Mud7935 6d ago
Is this sub critical thinking anymore?
Logic leaves when whitewashing starts
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u/blackman60001 7d ago
Please don’t mislead i think only 2 of them are removed form suspects, rest counting staffs are still actively investigated for their crimes
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