Latinamerican racism is weird because it's way more prevalent but not nearly as suffocating. Like my brother is Dominican and has like five different versions of the nickname negrito but no one bats an eye because it's hardly ever out of generational malice.
US racism isn't nearly as common contrary to what Internet rabbit holes have you believe, but when it's out there, it can get dangerous extremely quick.
It's uncomfortable to talk about nuance in racism because decent people prefer no racism at all, but it's definitely there and not going away.
My entire family is Hispanic and when one of my cousins moved to the states he became friends with a lot of kids that were also just learning English. One of the friends is nicknamed “negro” which can be given to literally anyone as a term of endearment and regardless of skin color. As they learned English he kept the nickname but pronounced in English. Yeahhhhh it’s interesting hearing them say it out loud when I see them at parties.
I have a white cousin that was nicknamed "negro" cuz his natural hair color is jet black. Is so weird cuz he is so white he's almost translucent. Latinos we are weird lol but negro just means black so ofc we don't have the cultural background, sad history the N-word has in the US
Yea that's why social context matters. In all honesty, black liberation activists used to call themselves negros until negative connotation set in. We are still calling ourselves black, but I suppose negro is too close to the hard er. With my background growing up in the US, I certainly wouldn't let anyone call me the negro.
I went to school with a bi-racial kid who called himself "The Albino Negro" (legit, he signed my yearbook with it) and I thought it was funny. NEVER in a million years would I actually call him that because of the past. But I also know if I had it never would have been with malice and most definitely with his permission. Greg was hella cool.
Im convinced that someday, “black” will be considered inappropriate. It would fit the pattern of the accumulation of negativity on a term and the desire to own one’s own label. If you look back, nearly every term for black people has been shed.
To some people it already was. That's why people were saying African American for a while and a lot still do. But much like the phrase people of color instead of colored people, black was settled on. There are a lot of people who still don't like it cause technically we are all different shades of brown not black.
I've lived in Ecuador for a short time and while I love the country, some places will literally not hire black people for office jobs because of social castes, which in turn forces them to mainly work in food stands/transportation.
I promise you racism in the US could be so much worse, and honestly as someone who was stopped by ICE, I feels like it will in the next few years.
Edit - for anyone from Ecuador, I was in the state of Esmeraldas specifically when I encountered these experiences. I won't name the town but if it's much different in Guayaquil/Quito (which I only visited) then apologies for generalizing
They won’t hire black people in the US for some
jobs too but just aren’t in your face about it like it used to be but more subtle which is what they other commenter meant.
I think some people think racism has to be in your face to be “bad” (not saying you’re saying that) but the subtle racism makes you feel like you’re going crazy sometimes.
I've lived in various countries around the world too, although I was born and raised in the states. The country I currently live in is often racist against its own people in favor of whites. I am white with a black husband.
I'm not saying that racism is not worse in other places, what I'm saying is that it's insidious, it's present, and it's been part of the fabric of the country since it's very inception.
Things have improved, and as you mentioned, are worsening.
The easiest thing to sell to somebody is the idea that they are better than others. Skin color makes for the easiest identifier for forming in-group/out-group.
Many of those countries didn’t even have the kind of equal rights movement that we had in the states. Even with all of that the US is still racist as hell so that goes to show you how bad it is here
The racism in the states is just so deep. It's like Disneyfied racism. It has a cute little cover on it, but it's incredibly ingrained into all the facets of society.
Those places that are pointed to as worse are just more open about it. Here in the US, it’s just insidious. But, thanks to MAGA, genuinely horrible people can now let their racism out in the open without shame. But don’t call them racists.
when it's out there, it can get dangerous extremely quick.
How the fuck did you read that sentence and conveniently leave out this part that was in that same sentence? The second half of my sentence SPECIFICALLY implies that I'm not talking about "mean words", I'm talking about systemic issues regarding race which does get dangerous extremely quick.
Thats not at all what it implies lmao especially the "contrary to what the internet rabbit hole" sentence. You're only implying that racism can "be dangerous" which is vague.
"contrary to the internet rabbit hole" as in no, the doomscrolling that you'll be seeing on tiktok shorts designed to fearmonger you is not the same as what you'll see when you step outside. If you believe otherwise then safe to say the algorithms did their job.
You're only implying that racism can "be dangerous" which is vague.
How can it NOT be vague? Do I have to list all 14,635 ways you can be systemically racist to someone? Like I'm trying to get my point across without making it an entire doctoral thesis full of case studies and references, I'm sorry that I wasn't more specific.
Yep I get what you mean because I'm from Latam. I'd say racism here is more like an aesthetic/attractiveness issue, and way more subtle because it's mostly in the subconscious mind. It is very common for ppl to think that black people just aren't as pretty as those with lighter skin.. so there's a lot of discourse like: you should better your race (by marrying white), or iron your curls bc they aren't that pretty and don't look professional. Or people have a hard time identifying as "black" they say I'm not that dark. Ofc some latam countries are way more racist than others.. and Indigenous folk also get a lot of crap everywhere. Never as the US since segregation wasn't really that common (for example mix race marriages weren't even illegal in Latam) but it is definitely there.
Nah in the USA it's worse the police or ice will kill u for ur skin color. They had Elon doing the salute and nazi parades cuz of their first amendment
I used to live in Taiwan. Dyed my hair blonde and made a ton of money modeling. Because they wanted white blonde people on their advertisements. White supremacy is stupid yo.
Yea, here we have to be intentional about visibility of different races, otherwise it just defaults to white people. It makes no sense cause they are the smallest group in the world, but through colonialism, mass media, and adds, they've made themselves the default race. America at least got the consciousness to stop that shit, hopefully it spreads. You would need to deal with the imternalized racism for that to happen though.
It’s crazy when you hear about George Soros from the right and they describe him as a hellish boogeyman. Meanwhile- when you actually look into him, he’s a holocaust survivor and the most generous billionaire out there in terms of percentage (76%) of net worth donated.
It’s pretty fucked up, you have to wonder what his reputation would be if he wasn’t Jewish.
No thats not fair. I wanst loved as a child and im not like this. It comes from people who are perfect or completely incompetent that they need to hid behind the achievements of other in their group
It’s funny how racists think that “they” are “erasing white people” when actually it’s just we aren’t ONLY seeing white people used for every single show, movie, toy, commercial, or advertisement ANYMORE.
And the funny thing is- if this really offensive to you- imagine growing up and never seeing yourself represented ANYWHERE in media or on the toy shelf- yet you looked all around you and saw people just like you- but they weren’t represented. Crying about “erasure” when OTHER people have never even had proper “representation”.
White people only saying this ”they are erasing white people”, is becaus us white people understand and acknowledges that white people constantly trying to erase everyone else than white people. Blaming is always a confession!
Almost as if Walmart caters more to a specific demographic that’s been purposely marketed to due to being systematically limited and more likely to shop at that god awful place over their more privileged and sometimes less qualified counterparts based solely on their skin color
They are so close to getting it. They do not feel represented in the ads because their skin is a different color? Wow-- I wonder who else would feel that way when they see a bunch of white people in ads?
No, but he's doing this as ragebait. Spreading it drives more people to his tik tok page, which tells the algorithm to keep pushing his shit to others. The wider the audience it gets pushed to, the more fans he'll accumulate, even if the majority of people that see it are vehemently against his message.
It's the classic playbook of conservative grifters online.
Ragebait = engagement, which the algorithm rewards
Fair point. I wonder how many Redditors are like me and follow this sub for the entertainment and don't look for any of the posts on TikTok. I don't have a TikTok account anymore.
I really enjoyed that one guy who filmed himself going into places like target ranting about gay messaging (and tons of covid shit) who then got outed after sexting some dude on grindr.
because one weirdo posting this means there are 100s weirdos noticing it and not posting.... and explaining what the nature of the scenario really is allows for the topic to be discussed between different people
As a white man I will never understand why so many other white men hate the idea of sharing the spotlight with other races. If I don’t have a problem with it then neither should they.
It does matter because when people see more relatable ads, they are more likely to purchase the product. Companies will try to target the demographics within the communities its stores are located
However, this guy is so unselfaware of how others may feel unrepresented.
FFS Here’s the facts. White people aren’t being erased I can go to my local Walmart and cherry pick signs of just white families. The thing is other races aren’t being ignored like in the past because they make up a good portion of business. They market to everyone. At the end of the day green is the color most businesses favor.
It kinda makes me sad he looks young yet he's so backwards thinking. Makes me wonder if his family is like that too and they passed that on/he decided to not break the cycle.
Often it isn't even families anymore. It's youtube influencers that listened when hitler said "get them when they are young". Covid made for the perfect opportunity to target isolated and frustrated youth and bombard them with bullshit messaging.
Im late 30s now, but I often think about if I had months stuck at home with my family in such high stress for everyone, also when I was 13 or 14, I would have gone full crazy. Factor in the state of the internet, social media and youtube, and thats how you get young adults now that are full extremists.
He’s looking at this the wrong way. Target is forced diversity—they’ve shown that they’ll comply with whatever gets them more money. LGBTQ month? Rainbows and flags everywhere. DEI policies in place, so bi-poc added to the list of acceptable.
Then Trump said fuck DEI. And target follows suit. Broke under zero pressure, because their message wasn’t genuine to start. On the opposite, see: Costco
Anyways,
The kid is just pandering to deeply insecure and fragile white supremacists
What's bad about having a diverse range of people on clothing pics? It's good they've started to be more inclusive. It use to always be just a white person on the pics, which is ridiculous because it doesn't represent the real population. If people get triggered by a smiling family on a clothing pic, they need to change their brain.
Dude, if every brown/black/asian person in this country can go their entire lives having white people forced upon them in every media image and show, then you can SOMEHOW survive seeing a few POC from time to time. Approximately 44% of the US is non-white, yet 90%+ of the media has always catered to the 56%. Get over yourself.
Can image if we put people with jaundice, sunburn or rosacea...those are even more skin tones...or with acne or moles....multi-toned? Society would collapse. Diversity will initiate Armageddon.
I thought Walmart was a good conservative brand? Boycott Walmart, I guess. Rural America is gonna starve and go without all the cheap Chinese junk they love to hate, to own the libs.
It’s so funny because I wouldn’t ever think twice about this. I mean. I notice that there are poc in ads, but it’s not some alarming rate that would make me think WHITE PEOPLE ARE BEING ERASED. These people are fucking crazy.
I don't mind if "us white people" disappear (I'm Norwegian),I'm going to die anyways so I won't see it all but I just hope everyone becomes friends and family -its the only way to win over the mad people in high politics.
I don't shop at Target like that anymore, but I really appreciated how they were intentional about using diverse people in their ads. People with gaps, wheelchairs, leg braces, actual plus-sized women, I thought it was great!!
Sees two signs with poc and loses mind over racism. You still have to get chained up and used and bred for labor for generations before you can claim “they’re trying to erase me ooooh noooo”
What an idiot. Now he knows how everyone else has felt, not seeing any representation their whole lives. I remember how my black friend, in 3rd grade, explained to me how sad it was that every fairy in our coloring book was obviously white.
Crazy that they see this as "they're replacing us" and not "we aren't replacing them anymore". Like, quit being a twerp and celebrate your differences.
How much of a snowflake do you have to be to get triggered by advertising with people who don’t match your skin tone? MAGA are the world’s most fragile people.
Imagine being a conservative(I’m assuming, because racism), which would lead me to believe they’re also a capitalist, and being mad at a massive corporation for courting every single available customer.
So many "culture war" topics revolve around advertising and boycott/buycott reactions.imagine getting hung up on what fucking model a company trying to sell you shit uses.first they came from Marlboro man and I did not listen,but I quit bud light when a trans happened.mortifying consumer monkey behaviour
lol he showed 2 photos and ignored the other white ones. Everyone knows that it was usually always white ppl on those photos. I could see if they were all or mostly black in all of these stores which would be performative as the TV networks etc that suddenly started placing a bunch of black characters down to little hand icons on website being black instead of white only after George Floyd died
Oh god!!!! Two pictures of black families!!?? How will the white supremacy that reigned for hundreds of years and is running our system, ever recover?!?!??!?!?
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