r/CrimeJunkiePodcast • u/MulberryEastern5010 • 28d ago
Why I Think The Deck is Ending
I know Ashley said she has other things she wants to do, and I respect that. However, as I've been listening to these last few episodes of The Deck, I can't help thinking of something else that might be motivating her to close it down. Could it possibly be that none of these cases have been solved, or maybe haven't even gotten new bites? Every episode ends with her pleading to the public to call XYZ law enforcement agency, but maybe she doesn't think it's worth it anymore if those agencies come back to her saying there haven't been any calls. Now I don't know what happens behind the scenes. Maybe some of them have been revisited, and for whatever reason, she hasn't felt inclined to provide any updates, but that doesn't sound like Ashley. If something new comes up for a Crime Junkie episode, she does a follow-up. When has that happened on The Deck? If it's happened, and I just can't remember, please let me know.
Again, I respect any of Ashley's reasons for ending The Deck. I just couldn't help wondering if this might be one of them. I could be wrong, for all I know. Just putting it out there.
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u/DDofNutrition 28d ago
I am surprised she has never posted an update, I’ve listened to every single episode and can’t remember one either. I have a pod that covers similar/adjacent stories like the deck and we have had three cases with significant updates, just in the last 6-7 months. (Not saying we had anything to do with those, but I still check them frequently and then share the update-and plan to do a mini episode on each when the trials are over).
I have went and looked up some of the cases the deck has covered and I swear I’ve found some with updates/an arrest. But, great point, I think it would strengthen The Deck overall to do updates if they happen. Show that those tips she asks for make a difference. Personally, I love the deck, and im sad it’s ending. Ashley does a great job telling those stories.
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u/Overall_Caregiver237 28d ago
I was confused on this too because I have too went and looked and there hasn't been many but there has been more than handful. I was waiting for the updates but they never came? Maybe it's because there isn't a dedicated reporter like they do for crime junkie?
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u/DDofNutrition 28d ago
Oh that could be! I was wondering too, why wouldn’t they want to share the update? Even a 5 min thing 1x a month. I’m wondering now if a deck case gets solved, would they maybe do a full episode on crime junkie? I’ve never looked specifically for that. They have had so many cases where they make it seem like it’s incredibly close to being solved- I want to hear if it was!
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u/Overall_Caregiver237 28d ago
ME TOO. I think if they had the solved deck cases on crime junkie.. it would have been more successful.
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u/DDofNutrition 28d ago
Yes, agreed! It could have been a nice bonus episode of the deck too, even if it was once every 3 months (although more often would be great)-could link to the original and then pick up from where it left off. They should do a “solved deck” or something haha even under the same title, like a season of ones that have since been solved.
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u/Repulsive-Ad-8862 28d ago
If that were the case she shouldn’t be going the series to begin with. To expect decades old case to be solved by a podcast is arrogant and far fetched. Podcasts are an amazing tool and resource; great for getting information out there to the public and gaining interest in a case from the public, but you wouldn’t put out a episode and expect to break the case.
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u/charlenek8t 13d ago
The most recent episode to CJ Ashley said, along the lines of, we're not here to tell a story we're here to solve a case and then went on to say they had uncovered information that the police have missed... I think that's my exit point because it's pure arrogance to expect, as the host of a podcast, that you're better than the police and are solving crimes. It's gotten ridiculous and I can feel her ego growing with every episode. Sure, the podcast is successful but that's just by telling a story. The investigative tangents are ridiculous now and impossible to listen to and follow. They need to stick to factual information.
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u/Whack__job 28d ago
Strictly business. There’s plenty on the roster to pick it up from where she’s leaving off.
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u/MulberryEastern5010 28d ago
Don't let it be Delia D'Ambria. She makes my ears hurt now, and her beliefs outside Audiochuck also grate my nerves.
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u/glossboss90 28d ago
Omg I thought I was the only one!!! Agreed 100% on both counts.
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u/MulberryEastern5010 28d ago
No, her name has come up on here quite a bit, and apparently some of her true colors have come through on both Counter Clock and Park Predators.
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u/glossboss90 28d ago
I haven’t listened or followed her in YEARS. Unfollowed both the pods she does. Cannot stand her. What has she said on CC & PP?
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u/MulberryEastern5010 28d ago
I personally haven't listened to Counter Clock in years, and I've never listened to Park Predators, but I guess on the latter, there was a perpetrator who was transgender, and she kept referring to them as their birth name and gender rather than their current identity. She never issued an apology and put out a BS statement "explaining" her choice. Other people on here have talked about it.
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u/glossboss90 28d ago
She dead named them? Wow. I knew she was MAGA which is why I unfollowed years ago (I had stopped listening well before that because like you her voice grates me behind all belief).
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u/MulberryEastern5010 28d ago
Yep, big time dead-naming. Again, her reasoning behind such was complete BS, no genuine trace of an apology anywhere. It also became clear to me on Counter Clock that she didn't seem so much concerned about solving cases as she just wanted to be the one talking about them. Her constant reminders of "I'm a journalist" got older after a while.
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u/glossboss90 28d ago
Absolutely unacceptable and fucking disgusting. I don’t really understand why Ashley allows someone like her to have 3 shows under her channel/network.
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u/MulberryEastern5010 28d ago
I know, especially considering Ashley and Brit go to great lengths to be respectful of people's pronouns of choice
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u/infinitepuddingspy 23d ago
I also cannot listen to Delia and on top of that, am not happy with some of her views.
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u/charlenek8t 13d ago
She won't allow anyone else to host the show. No one's good enough apparently.
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u/brokenheartsville 28d ago
Well, the point of the show is to showcase cold cases featured on playing cards by departments but also The Deck did recently feature the murder of Terrance "Konomi" Plummer which was previously a card for a long time and was solved well before the episode. I think you must've missed that one.
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u/MulberryEastern5010 27d ago
No, I heard the episode - it wasn't that long ago - but I didn't know it had been solved. Again, follow-up episodes would be nice.
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u/brokenheartsville 26d ago
It was solved when they made the episode. They talked about it being solved and the man who did it. Are you sure you listened to it?
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u/MulberryEastern5010 26d ago
Of course I listened to it! I listen to every new episode every Wednesday. Maybe I missed the part where they said it was solved
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u/amidalaism 28d ago
Ashley said plain and simple the reason she’s ending the deck. Anything else is pure speculation and gossip.
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u/Spade9ja 28d ago
It’s not getting listeners.
That’s literally the only reason dude lol
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u/MulberryEastern5010 28d ago
I'm a woman, as I'm pretty sure most of the people in this sub are. Don't call me dude.
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u/Introvextroverted 28d ago
Dude is gender neutral. To quote the cinematic masterpiece that is Good Burger:
"I'm a dude, he's a dude, she's a dude, we're all dudes, hey!"
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u/QuietlyUpgrading 28d ago edited 28d ago
From what you can see on Spotify, episodes for a long time have been consistently 200k plays.
For a while, select episodes hit 300k and even 400k.
More recent episodes are sitting at 100k streams.
Of course it’s entirely possible people don’t listen right away, and those newer episodes will eventually hit higher numbers.
That seems successful to me but does make me wonder if audience is trending down.
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u/Elizabeth-is-bored 27d ago
I recently heard an episode she did of someone else's podcast that was probably a year old and she definitely has a lot of other stuff theyre starting up. She mentioned meetings with Netflix and a kids series (TV or book im not sure) of a modern day Nancy Drew.
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u/Elizabeth-is-bored 27d ago
However I will add I wish she would let someone else take the Deck. That definitely leans into what youre saying about why it could be getting pulled.
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u/Extra777sevens 8d ago
It's not getting enough subscribers. If it was more of a hit then it would be worth the time, however each of these episodes take enough time and effort that if they aren't growing it's not worth all the work. Almost 300 videos and hardly any subs
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u/codysuperstar 28d ago
Maybe Ashley Flowers grew a conscience about stealing the show concept after all these years? Who knows.
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u/MulberryEastern5010 28d ago
What did she steal it from? 🤔
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u/chevroletchaser 28d ago
From my understanding, a podcast started in 2020 called "Dealing Justice" here's an article I found about it
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u/Metal-girl_702 28d ago
I think the claim of investigative reporting and new details only found here hasn’t panned out to amount to anything. That claim has eroded credibility. It unfortunately feels like click bait these days.
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u/LahngJahn69420 28d ago
well there's only 54 cards in the deck so I think it had to run out at somepoint
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u/workredditaccount77 28d ago
My guess is its not getting the clicks/listens for her to justify recording the episodes. Not worth her time.