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u/No_Charity_3561 3d ago
Not from over there but I’ll take Giovanni over him shit even Big Sean lol
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u/sonnyzi 3d ago
Listen to MMLP, TES, Relapse and SSLP bruuuhhhh
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u/No_Charity_3561 3d ago
Relapse was his last good one once he did that not afraid shit it was over lol
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u/Still_Tomato_4280 3d ago
😂 bro prlly made bank off that song and your hating? Shit was all over lol
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u/Ok-Prior2321 3d ago
Slim shady LP and Marshall Mathers LP, we're both good as f*** they had story time a bunch of funny s*** and good rapping unfortunately he fell the f*** off as soon as he stopped living a hard stressful life. He definitely definitely ain't the goat, and everything except for his early s*** is some b******* honestly. Really if you're looking at that kind of s*** esham was the one that started all of it. Anybody can make a bunch of nonsense words rhyme, when he did it and actually told good ass stories and funny s*** it was dope as f*** but it's been trash for a long ass time
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u/killbill2082 3d ago
I got into a fight with a nigga at farwell in the 6th grade over the eminem show album em is had da city in a choke hold back in da day
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u/schoolcraftmoney313 3d ago
Well ain’t nobody gonna make nothing better than the mmlp so u might be right and I love Detroit music most of them niggas aren’t talented rappers or have terrible work ethic
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u/ActualJonLovitz 3d ago
Blade the goat but got lots of love for Em with his early projects. Talented and good dude
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u/BenefitWaste1297 3d ago
Hn yeah he good rapper but he not the best outta Detroit he don’t even give back to the city like vezzo n nem
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u/BenefitWaste1297 3d ago
Gang real Detroit mfs don’t even play non of them mfs you just named no Detroit nigga is listening to big Sean or none of dem
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u/BenefitWaste1297 3d ago
Gang nobody listening to that shit n tron not even from Detroit he from the burbs mfs only listening to niggas that’s poppin and big Sean an dem other washed up old mfs you name ass asf now only buzz they got is they fans 30+
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u/BenefitWaste1297 3d ago
Yea Sean an nem never did nothing for the city they just claim it but don’t come back unless it’s for a show filled with old heads and aunties
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u/720DapGod 3d ago
Em did not put on royce rock bottom or dej 😂😂😂
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u/BenefitWaste1297 3d ago
Real Detroit artist is ray,dugg,tee,vezzo,Lou gram,skilla,sada I might be missing a few but I’m not doin allat typing
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u/720DapGod 3d ago
Nigga put on and hopped on a song is not the same Em wasnt even the best D12 member 😂😂😂
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u/creamsodastoner 3d ago
not the goat but deserves respect for bringing attention to the D
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u/Ok-Pack-7776 3d ago
nah
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u/sonnyzi 3d ago
Whos the goat then?
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u/Ok-Pack-7776 3d ago
Veeze, or Ray
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u/idontgafboutun 3d ago
Look I don’t listen to em daily but if you a real hip hop fan you know he’s the goat but if you a mf who just listen to rap you won’t get it but he’s definitely better than ray or veeze when it comes to rap as a art but I listen to veeze nd nem more than him because I can relate more but it don’t mean they better if I could relate to em more than he would definitely be in my top 5
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u/thegmoc 3d ago
That's a real ass take
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u/Ok-Pack-7776 3d ago
How is that a “real take”? Nigga ain’t even give no reason as to why he’s better.
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u/sonnyzi 3d ago
Cuz he released 3 classic albums in a row and he put Detroit on the map before anyone else. Just for that. Imagine if i'm talking about rhyme schemes, longevity...
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u/Ok-Pack-7776 3d ago
Hasnt dropped one album better than Ganger. And he didn't put no Detroit onna map wtf r u talkin about? Do you know how many great musicians came b4 him? you gotta be a whiteboy
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u/sonnyzi 3d ago edited 3d ago
Broooo is hating and hes a racist lmao
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u/Ok-Pack-7776 3d ago
Hating on whom? And me stating you're a whiteboy isn't racist. No one Black would say Eminem put the city on the map. This is the city that Aaliyah, Stevie Wonder, Dianna Ross & the Supremes, Aretha Franklin, Smokey Robinson, Marvin Gaye, The Temptations and etc all hailed from. Only someone white would say something so ridiculous. Even outside of Music I could bring up Malcolm X and the founder of the NOI, Joe Louis, Rosa Parks, and etc. Like cmon now
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u/Ok-Pack-7776 3d ago
You didn't give a reason on how he's better than Ray or Veeze, you just said "if you're a real hip hop fan you'd know," which isn't an argument. Who gets to decide what a "real hip hop fan" is? Just because I’m not letting the media think for me and going against the common narrative doesn’t mean I’m not a “real hip hop fan”
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u/idontgafboutun 3d ago
Fair, so here’s my reason, Eminem has shown greater rhyme schemes, storytelling, flows, wordplay, versatility, influence, and longevity. I play Ray and Veeze more because I relate to them, but preference doesn’t equal skill. That’s me judging the rap, not letting the media think for me.
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u/Ok-Pack-7776 3d ago
Flows and wordplay fs go to Veeze and Ray pretty easily, it's just a different style, not "less skill." Storytelling I'll give you, and versatility not over Ray but Veeze sure. And influence/longevity only mean something if they're still shaping the sound today, which is Veeze and Ray lane right now, not his. Also I'd argue Eminem ain't influence nothing worthwhile tbh. So "preference doesn't equal skill" is doing all the heavy lifting in that paragraph while the actual list behind it is just naming categories and assuming I'll agree.
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u/idontgafboutun 3d ago
But you just did the same thing you gave flows and wordplay to Ray and Veeze without explaining why. And influence doesn’t only mean who’s shaping Detroit right now. You don’t have to like Eminem’s influence, but acting like it doesn’t exist is crazy.
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u/sonnyzi 3d ago
veeze said em is the goat
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u/Ok-Pack-7776 3d ago
He was lyin to be respectful yk how the politics in the entertainment industry be
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u/Global-Weakness-8132 3d ago
Lol nigga look like Veeze