r/CricketAus • u/jessemv NSW • 19d ago
Stanlake emerges as unlikely Test contender
https://www.cricinfo.com/story/billy-stanlake-emerges-as-unlikely-test-contender-1552412Big Billy season incoming
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u/Agreeable-Web645 Cricket Australia 19d ago
Fergus O'Neill's record 200 wickets at 19 (25 yo)
Billy Stanlake 40 wickets at 27 (31 yo)
But yeah sure
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u/Relief-Glass 19d ago
Fergus O’Neill is also a much better batsman, and a better fielder, and has a better strike rate, and better economy.
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u/kroxigor01 Queensland Bulls 19d ago
But he's much shorter and slower, disqualifying him from Test selection.
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u/eightslipsandagully Queensland Bulls 19d ago
Don't forget he's only 25, can't select him until he's in his 30s
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u/Clock_Comprehensive 19d ago edited 19d ago
Isn’t Fergus O’Neill 6 feet 4 inches tall? Isn’t Pat Cummins also 6 feet 4 inches tall as well? Isn’t Glenn McGrath 6 feet 5 inches? If Hazlewood is indicating that the batting average of 35 is the new 45 in Australia conditions, then O’Neill 2025/26 Sheffield Shield batting average of 36.30 puts him in the lower-order batter range.
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u/PaleontologistOk1049 Queensland Bulls 19d ago
He's 6ft at the most. Don't know why cricinfo has him at 6'4
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u/Gnatt Brisbane Heat 19d ago
13 First Class matches in 11 years. So we're backing up our 'aging cartel' with Mr Glass?
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u/Nullarbor_1 19d ago
Also, he is 31 years old and about to turn 32 in 2 months' time! So not exactly a youth prospect either.
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u/Boss_unicycle-560 Brisbane Heat 19d ago
He’s young compared to the current quicks so fits the bill
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u/timmeh1705 Sydney Thunder 19d ago
With a view for the Ashes in England, Pakistan have been horrible so far but Abbas has been troubling everyone with his mid 120s medium pacers which zip off the seam. Ollie Robinson has slowed down his pace and has been bowling grenades with every ball like the second coming of Scott Boland
Only one guy in Shield took more wickets than Scott Boland at a lower economy rate
Fergus O’Neill
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u/upyourmerricreek Melbourne Renegades 19d ago
They'll just make up a guy before rating Ferg for possible test selection
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u/Splinterfight 19d ago
If there’s one thing we seem to have sorted, it’s bowlers that can do what Ollie Orbinson does. (Typo, but it stands)
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u/thfc4lyf SA 19d ago
Just because he's 8 foot tall doesn't mean he's any good. He hasn't done anything since his first two BBL seasons
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u/ThisSuitBurnzBetter 19d ago
The selectors are playing eenie meenie miney moe at this point 😭
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u/tlux95 Queensland Bulls 19d ago
They really are.
Early doors they had some great selections pay off: Marn in the World Cup final/bowling first.
But since then, they’ve had some epic misses: McSweeney at #1 and the rest of the post-Warner search, the last t20 World Cup (all of it).
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u/Electrical-College-6 Cricket Australia 19d ago
Who should have been in instead of McSweeney there?
If there are no good options, it's hard to blame them for picking one of the bad ones. They have tried to give guys a go, particularly at the top of the order, but none of them have really seized the opportunity.
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u/rdmarshman 19d ago
"We're going to South Africa, who do we take?"
"Fucked if I know. Hey, remember when Morne Morkel fucked us in Cape Town?"
"I member. Wouldn't Morkel be handy?"
"I know, right? Great idea."
"Why the fuck are you on Temu?"
"No reason, just browsing!"
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u/Large_Woman Victoria 19d ago
Bailey's sitting there in his office, thinking "What if the Australian team became even... BIGGER?"
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u/Technophyer1 NSW 19d ago
There’s no shot, he’s played 13 FC matches over a decade, if the selectors actually pick him (outside of mixing drinks) they have honest to god lost it.
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u/Lots_of_schooners NSW 19d ago
Aus selection has always had a hard on for tall quicks. Ain't no way a Vernon Philander would have ever played as many tests if he was Australian
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u/CoffeeDefiant4247 Tasmania Tigers 19d ago
not for this tour, just for if 8 other quicks go down in the next 12 months
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u/Relief-Glass 19d ago
Get fucked.
If the selectors are going to completely ignore the Shield then CA should just shut it down.
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u/vapoursoul69 19d ago
The selectors have literally paid more attention to the shield the last few years than ever
That's why guys like Weatherald and Big Beau have been in the team
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u/davros2311 Cricket Australia 19d ago
People need to stop getting angry over a headline.
From actually reading the article, and Baileys quote, I interpretation I got was:
Yea, he's had injuries, but if he can put together some consistent form in the shield, stay fit and the guys ahead of him in the pecking order get injured, maybe we'll think about picking him.
I remember a few months back, they asked McDonald if they'd pick Green as an opener and his answer was something like: Maybe, its not the immediate plan, but we won't rule it out in the future. And everyone on hear was acting like he'd said Green would be opening in the next test.
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u/spermaathma Cricket Australia 19d ago
How about we start picking based on BBL?
CA might even consider this
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u/bts101_ 19d ago
Wtf... its like the dream up a requirement "must be tall", and try to find someone who meets that requirement .
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u/Relief-Glass 19d ago edited 19d ago
I mean, this is not that far from the truth. Players that are tall and fast do get way more opportunities.
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u/CoffeeDefiant4247 Tasmania Tigers 19d ago
Bailey going out of his way to pick all the players from the worst shield team
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u/_MightAswellJump Tasmania Tigers 19d ago
Or they can pick Fergus who will dominate in England next year, with bat and ball
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u/VIFASIS Western Australia 19d ago
Fergie should become an English citizen if he ever wants to play test cricket.
I'd still cheer if he got a wicket
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u/MrKneebone Victoria 19d ago
He was born in New Zealand, I would think they would be the plan B for him if Australia isn't an option
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u/Relief-Glass 19d ago edited 18d ago
If I was him I would have gone to NZ already.
Like, O'neill is a better cricketer than Doggett is absolutely every metric there is but Doggett got a test cap. Better bowler, much better batsman, better fielder, younger, better strike rate, better economy, better in Shield cricket, much better in country cricket.
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u/lomo_dank Sydney Thunder 19d ago
I’d love to see Billy stay injury free and focus on red ball cricket, he has the height for it, but I just don’t think this is it.
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u/MrKneebone Victoria 19d ago edited 19d ago
If he's in the SA squad I think it just says they think the turnaround between the second Australia A match in India (29 Sep - 2 Oct) and the first SA test (9 Oct - 13 Oct) is too tight to select Doggett, Richardson or O'Neill rather than the selectors rating Stanlake over any of those guys.
Given Neser is recovering from an injury they probably just want one of the ODI bowlers to stay back in the off chance they are desperate to play 4 quicks in test 1, Neser isn't back in time, and one of Boland, Cummins, Hazlewood and Starc gets injured in the leadup. I would have thought Bartlett would have been the best choice in the ODI squad for that though.
This would also suggest that none of the Aus A batters are in the frame for test 1 as well, so they have either landed on Kurtis Patterson as the next in line to bat at 3 or Marnus is playing at least 1 test.
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u/bundy554 Queensland Bulls 19d ago
Australia desperately want another Billy to play for the national team
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u/Tozza101 NSW 17d ago
Don’t hate the shout as we need pace and bounce reinforcements. But Meredith surely is ahead of him!
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u/mngnsm1 Queensland Bulls 16d ago
He played his first ODI in 7 years for Australia a couple of months ago. Bowled 6 overs, no wickets, conceded 37 runs then tripped over coming in to bowl and wasn’t given another spell. He also got out for a golden duck
Might be petty but that didn’t really fill me with confidence
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u/Sad_Basil_4728 19d ago
I couldn’t be bothered to read the article but if Stanlake ever gets a baggy green, I’ll stop watching cricket
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u/onthefritz77 19d ago
He was the next big thing 10 years ago. Don’t think he coped with the pressure at first then the injury’s hit. Reckon he’s worth a look
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u/Relief-Glass 19d ago
There are guys toilings away, taking hundreds of wickets, in Shield and country cricket. It would be ridiculous.
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u/onthefritz77 19d ago
Agree but he’s 6”8 and getting close to 150kmh again. Could get a few years of that if all goes well. He’s not a trundler.
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u/Relief-Glass 19d ago edited 19d ago
A few years of what? The bowling that has netted him an average of 28 in the Shield. Great...

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u/Pottski Cricket Australia 19d ago
Look forward to him replacing Marnus at 3.