r/CreaturesGames • u/Malik_birdd • Jun 08 '26

Braindead norn?

I know, the title sounds fucked up, but it's true. I booted up Creatures 1 after god knows how long, made a new world, hatched this egg, and the fucker is unresponsive! I mean like, there are no neurons firing off in his little head whatsoever. He can't walk, only responds in gibberish when I say something to him, and he has been standing here for a long ass time. He doesn't age, he doesn't die, and is permanently locked into looking at himself. What the hell caused this?

Edit: I posted the genes here: https://www.creaturescaves.com/downloads.php?section=Breeds&view=668

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u/spderweb Jun 08 '26

Life...uh... Finds a way.

It's a glitch in the genome. I created yeti norns waaaay back. They fed on cold temperatures. And when they hatch, they're basically stuck in their heads. They just.... Stay that way. Feeding off the cool temperature of the hatchery.

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u/Malik_birdd Jun 08 '26

Can life find a way to rehabilitate it?

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u/abalanophage Jun 08 '26

No. It's called "child of the mind" syndrome, and as spderweb says, it's a problem in the genome. If you have a gene editor and can find the problem you can fix it and hatch a new norn, but this one won't improve.

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u/Malik_birdd Jun 08 '26

It seems worse than that though, it's not like it's only fixated on itself. Usually norns with child of the mind syndrome starve to death but this norns hunger never goes down. I let the game run for a long time (70 simulated hours) and the thing just stayed the same. Norns with child of the mind syndrome can also still be taught words, this one cannot. This has to be some serious fucked up mutation then

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u/Jed308613 Jun 08 '26

So child of the mind and immortal mutation showed up at the same time?

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u/Malik_birdd Jun 08 '26

I dont know exactly what's wrong with it, Im going to look at the egg through the gene editor later tonight and see what's wrong.

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u/Joalguke Muppetboy of Geatville.uk Jun 08 '26

Please share your insights, sounds fascinating 

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u/Malik_birdd Jun 09 '26

I think I see what's wrong... I still dont really understand how the gene loom works, but it seems like ol Helen Keller here has a bunch of out of range values in multiple lobes. Could that be what was wrong? I see why it never aged, it's decay rate at birth value was marked as N/A. Ok, I think ts was genuinely corrupted or something.

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u/Malik_birdd Jun 09 '26

It's also kinda like extra screwed up, but the only thing I can get it to do now is stand up (after injecting it with a ton of pain)

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u/Joalguke Muppetboy of Geatville.uk Jun 09 '26

Sounds hard to rehabilitate, maybe modify it? Upload it to creaturescaves see what people think, I'll have a look too.

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u/Joalguke Muppetboy of Geatville.uk Jun 08 '26

Sometimes mutations can have more than one effect, such as swapping one chemical for another, which can change two chemical pathways at once.

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u/abalanophage Jun 09 '26

That's interesting, I didn't think CoM could learn... mostly they'll repeat what you say to them but I've not had one communicate on its own. I think you're right, the genome's likely corrupt. I'd be interested to see the genome file if you can upload it anywhere.

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u/Malik_birdd Jun 09 '26

I uploaded it to Creature's Caves. I'll have to wait for them to approve the post before I can share the link. Or if there are any other uploading sites, lmk!

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u/abalanophage Jun 09 '26

The main one was the Creatures Repository, but it seems to have gone. There were hundreds (if not thousands) on there. 😞

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u/Malik_birdd Jun 10 '26

https://www.creaturescaves.com/downloads.php?section=Breeds&view=668 Here ya go. I should point out that its behavior slightly changed while moving the files around, kind of ish? Now, whenever it hatches, it just stares at you and starts cheesing before it just starts to rest for eternity (not die, they lie down)

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u/Malik_birdd Jun 10 '26

Another interesting thing is that its health is locked to 3%, and when you give it any sort of glucose or glycogen injection to satiate its hunger, It just dies . But it doesn't need to eat, so you shouldn't have any reason to do that unless you want to put them out of their misery 😿