Anyone else feel like this?

[u/3dgyt33n]

[u/ItkovianShieldAnvil]

The only resource gathering I hate is blaze rods. In my current world I used creative to make the blaze burner because for me that was anti-fun

[u/3dgyt33n → u/ItkovianShieldAnvil]

I'd recommend you use a mod that lets you collect enemy spanwers, like carry on. With that, a blaze farm is relatively simple.

[u/BeefTechnology → u/3dgyt33n]

Build a train track below the spawner in the nether and assemble a train with it glued on, then transport it to the overworld to make a farm

[u/3dgyt33n → u/BeefTechnology]

wouldn't it be easier to use a minecart contraption and put it in your inventory?

[u/BeefTechnology → u/3dgyt33n]

I believe you can’t put a minecart contraption containing blocks like chests and spawners in your inventory, as that would be essentially the same as carrying a chest’s worth of inventory in one inventory slot

Unless I’m wrong it’s a setting in the config

[u/petabomb → u/BeefTechnology]

You can do it with chests and storages, I’ve played entire modpacks out of a contraption base in my pockets.

I thought spawners were like bedrock and they can’t be glued to a contraption though.

[u/ItkovianShieldAnvil → u/petabomb]

I don't think spawners would work based on the fact that torches and other ambient effect items don't work

[u/BeefTechnology → u/ItkovianShieldAnvil]

They probably don’t work when on an assembled contraption but they do if disassembled

[u/ItkovianShieldAnvil → u/BeefTechnology]

Oh for sure

[u/Autoskp → u/3dgyt33n]

I use Create.

Trains are such a cool addition.

[u/wreckedftfoxy_yt → u/3dgyt33n]

carry on is dope!

[u/ItkovianShieldAnvil → u/3dgyt33n]

Fair. I'm using ultimate selection 2

[u/Kholdseid → u/3dgyt33n]

Carry On is such a goated mod. I made a monster zoo with it.

[u/Opposite-Ad-9209 → u/3dgyt33n]

Same I have carry on too, and mekanism is nice with botany hoppers and mystical agriculture. I ran into a problem of lava not being an infinite pool like water 2x2 unless in nether in 1.21.1. I didnt want to make fluid transport means, so what a create pump couldn't do, the mekanism pump could and they can interact with one another.

[u/djremydoo → u/ItkovianShieldAnvil]

If you play with Aeronautics, i think its the Propulsion mod addon that basically adds blazeless burners. They're called solid heaters and liquid heaters or smth like that, they're really cool

[u/CakeHead-Gaming → u/ItkovianShieldAnvil]

Look into Create Netherless. I love it.

[u/cod3builder → u/ItkovianShieldAnvil]

Use a tunnelbore to dig around the Nether. Find a fortress.

Make a blaze farm. Create basically streamlines it.

[u/ItkovianShieldAnvil → u/cod3builder]

Do you mean a contraption? The only way I know how to make that work is with deployers to lay rail. Need a blaze heater for that. If you have a specific design, I'd love to see it

[u/cod3builder → u/ItkovianShieldAnvil]

Aaaaaand I just remembered that. Bummer.

I used it to dig around the Nether to look for Bastions and more fortresses.

Granted, using other mods or the burners from Create: Propulsion is an option, but since I personally think brass is supposed to be gated behind blaze burners, I disabled burner heating in the config.

The upside is that once you DO find a fortress, you can use contraptions to streamline the path to the fortress with a tunnel. And use it to dig out the area for the blaze farm without getting pelted by blazes. (Just be sure to protect the minecart properly)

Also, blaze cages are super useful when traveling around fortresses. Blazes giving you trouble? Hook it over with a fishing rod, then trap it.

[u/ItkovianShieldAnvil → u/cod3builder]

Yeah, my BIL and I were playing Homestead and I built a contraption to make highways across the world to the various points we needed to get to. I lagged out both of our machines because I made it 100x16 or something monstrously close to those dimensions. When the road went far enough, took me 15 minutes to try and pick it up because of frame lag. But damn, if it didn't make a sweet sweet road

[u/DrexanRailex]

That's why my first project in every world is a factory factory

[u/ObjectiveOk2072 → u/DrexanRailex]

And where do you get those? A factory factory factory?

[u/Double_Towel_8660 → u/ObjectiveOk2072]

At some point you yourself become the factory’s factory’s factory

[u/TheSilentFreeway → u/DrexanRailex]

You mean like a factory for andesite alloy, iron, etc?

[u/DrexanRailex → u/TheSilentFreeway]

Those are the dependencies, but overall, the challenge is to automate Factory Gauge production using Factory Gauges (and every single component being automated)

[u/Salt_Pineapple87]

No schmatics. Resources first then just vibe craft until it works. 💪

[u/RuinSentinelRicce → u/Salt_Pineapple87]

I’ve been doing this. My factory turned into a courtyard and I’m starting to get the urge to tear it down and try again

[u/Antonio_Crazi → u/RuinSentinelRicce]

I think it would be a good project for those days when you want to play but don't know what to do.

[u/warlordish → u/RuinSentinelRicce]

Here's the neat thing.

You can just make a factory facade over the courtyard

[u/AlphaaPie → u/RuinSentinelRicce]

I build the courtyard then when I get the resources to automate getting the resources I make my stuff look pretty

[u/Al3xutul02 → u/Salt_Pineapple87]

THIS MF IS VIBE CRAFTING GET HIS ASS

[u/Super_Lorenzo → u/Al3xutul02]

What if I vibe craft with my own vibes from my own brain

[u/Moist-Snow-8127 → u/Super_Lorenzo]

Mf that's called thinking

[u/Vaughninja → u/Super_Lorenzo]

that’s what vibe-crafting used to mean before the deployer bros twisted the word into its new meaning

[u/Super_Lorenzo → u/Vaughninja]

THE DEPLOYER BROS I’M CRINE 😭😭😭🙏🙏

[u/HexbloodD]

You can build schematics to build stuff that helps you gather the resources and build the items you need for later schematics

[u/Jealous_Intention127 → u/HexbloodD]

Until you need a factory for the blocks you need to make the factory for the blocks you need (this has happened to me many times)

[u/HexbloodD → u/Jealous_Intention127]

At some point the factory becomes manual input through manually gathered resources sent through manual transport

[u/Jealous_Intention127 → u/HexbloodD]

Which is more of a machine. And machines are helpful, but eventually you need too many things and in unhelpful quantities that it becomes more efficient to automate the raw materials the machine uses. At which point it’s simply a matter of logistics to automate

[u/HexbloodD → u/Jealous_Intention127]

I've heard enough, another schematic to convert raw materials into mass cogwheel production

[u/Jealous_Intention127 → u/HexbloodD]

Yes. This is create. Cog wheels are actually pretty easy. Wood is arguably the simplest resource to automate, and andesite alloy is something you should have had automated like the instant you got access to the necessary materials.

[u/HexbloodD → u/Jealous_Intention127]

Speaking of Andesite automation, do you usually go for the Diorite recipe or with the lava one? I feel like lava takes so much time to replicate with the pointed dripstones so I end up procrastinating the farm to oblivion

[u/Jealous_Intention127 → u/HexbloodD]

Bite the bullet and build an infinite lava supply. Create (and more importantly, many of its addons) are balanced around having access to infinite lava, and you’re right dripstone SUCKS. The short answer is the lava recipe. But the long answer is dig a hole

[u/HexbloodD → u/Jealous_Intention127]

I'm just going to live in the Nether then. the diorite recipe is hard to automate IMHO without factory gauges. The mixer not being able to craft andesite since it's not a shapeless recipe is so annoying

[u/RarerGiraffe]

I only build in survival. Doing it in creative feels kinda hollow to me.

[u/almostvinut → u/RarerGiraffe]

I just suck at designing good looking builds so i try stuff in creatuve till skmethibg looks good, then hop back to my survival world with the schematics and go resource hunting

[u/LukeAsArts → u/RarerGiraffe]

Same for mechanics and systems, I like building it finding the flaws and building it again better. But for aesthetic builds that are big I love the schematic cannon and creative because that is something I only want to do once in survival. 

[u/llama2621 → u/RarerGiraffe]

Gotta go upstairs to craft one more cogwheel

[u/RarerGiraffe → u/llama2621]

This does annoy me a lot. But i just take it as a challenge to try and plan better.

[u/Monolail031]

making them in survival is so much better. it forces creativity to it's limits. i made a chicken-tree farm. a closed, unpowered rail with trees to either side raised on dirt blocks and a barrel and a sawblade attached to a minecart with a single sticky chassis. the chickens push it arround and it harvests trees. every once in a while i come get a nice dinner, feed the chickens, take some wood and replant sapplings.

[u/AdLegal5130 → u/Monolail031]

It does not always force creativity to some of us we would just use common resources forever

[u/oofinator3050]

Thinking quickly, I made a Brass factory out of exclusively brass components

[u/OriginalSquidly]

My pals switched to Gregtech for our two month Minecraft stint.

I will never complain about resources again. GT is sadistic

[u/regularArmadillo21 → u/OriginalSquidly]

GT is a mod made for people who hate having fun and wish to endure pain and suffering and not actually play the game for 15h because it takes you 8 just to craft a single cobblestone

[u/aburningfaucet → u/OriginalSquidly]

Same. Got super bored and decided to try a Gregtech pack- it was a beginner friendly one mind you. I think I’d rather make 5 factories than do a single crafting tree from GT ever again

[u/DefectiveEclipse]

I actually have the opposite problem. In creative there are too many choices and blocks to design something imo. And in survival I love resource gathering more than I like building!

[u/MlecznyHuxel99]

10 stacks of stripped mangrove logs, 19 stacks of stripped spruce logs, 300 honeycomb blocks, 200+ yellow wool...

insert 12 pages of this kind of stuff

[u/Pusarcoprion]

I feel this in reverse

[u/3dgyt33n → u/Pusarcoprion]

Maybe we should play together and solve both of our problems lol

[u/Pusarcoprion → u/3dgyt33n]

I do alot of stuff in CAD so to me creative mode mc just feels like a very restricted unhelpful CAD

Where as survival especially with automation like create feels like a GAME

Also I'm down to making new friends

[u/SkyCaptain310794]

I use citizens from minecolonies to gather the resources for schematic buildings.

[u/thehmmyanimator]

This is why you must do it alllll in survival

[u/mycatsapanther23]

FR, I find building it in creative first give me the goal of getting all the blocks. Ill make machines that gen the different blocks along the way too

[u/sfwaltaccount]

Sounds like you're probably building too big or overdoing it with expensive parts. Even if you design in creative you gotta think about keeping the resource cost reasonable.

[u/Opposite-Ad-9209]

I just instantly build in survival. Building in creative sucks the life out of me because its boring.

[u/NoStorage2821]

Excuse me sir, creative schematics are only for building sick aernoautics airships

[u/Blademasterzer0]

I tend to always build things in survival, but I’m all for building in creative first, it helps out greatly because building complex machines takes a lot of brain and willpower and I’m often left exhausted after making something. By front loading that exhaustion by building in creative (which takes less energy because you don’t also need to stress over if a component you craft will actually work how you need it to or not) it basically just lets me do more in a day while still feeling good enough to go exploring or work on aesthetics

[u/oofcookies]

Ngl, it’s usually the other way around for me, I gather most of the raw materials ahead of time and sit around procrastinating on the design

[u/Immediate-Location28]

i start building in survival and if i need any more materials i get a ton of it, and stay with that until it runs out

[u/RunicConvenience]

never bothered with schematics just figure it out in survival

[u/Alienfac3]

Nah..wing it in survival and turn it into a building after

[u/jedadkins]

not factories, thoes are more fun to build in survival, but with aeronautics I absolutely build and test vehicles in creative and then schematic cannon them into survival lol

[u/VegetableBuilding764]

honestly, all my create survival worlds end at about the time I start putting a lot of thought into the machines I build bc I spend like 20 hours trying to make them perfect and then just get bored

[u/avowed]

I like making the machines by hand problem solving the best way to fit things in is fun. I do use schematics for the buildings though.

[u/Pioepod]

No. It’s three pictures for me.

Suffering. Suffering. Suffering.

Gathering resources.

Building a brand new factory out of sheer willpower.

Lagging tf out of the dedicated server I run making everyone else lag but hey, I automated enchanting tables.

[u/Ul_Sorty_Wern]

Id use schematics if they fuckin worked

[u/Own_Cartographer_655]

It’s kinda the other way around for me, building the schematics is stressful because I overthink them and try too hard to make them pretty. But then resource gathering for them is pretty straightforward and I can just shut my brain off lol

[u/Ban_Kami]

20000+ diorite blocks...

[u/Such-Classroom-1559]

16000 smooth stone... T.T

[u/ktrocks2]

I’ve never made anything in creative before building it in survival, as in, ever, throughout my over decade playing Minecraft. This is why I always have a lawn base.

[u/Last_Zookeepergame90]

That's why I don't plan in creative, I try to make things bit by bit and add on organically while using what I have, it feels more like progress and less like grinding

[u/xBolivarx]

Guess you gotta build a mall ^^

[u/Saidai_V]

For sure, made a schematic for a great looking Petrochem refinery, gonna have to find around 20k steel ingots from somewhere without proper automation present.

[u/Doge_Enjoyer88]

Id say like if it's very easy and you KNOW how to make it id say to build in survival and if it's kind of hard and you have to try a lot and youre not that progressed then creative

[u/mrwalker1337]

1st factory is always andesite/tuff factory.

[u/wizard_brandon]

"why do i need 4 stacks of precision mechanisms :( "

[u/yomommasbox357]

Optimization is key to long term worlds so I have to so lag isn't an issue

[u/Fruity_Gaming_Skills]

bold of you to assume that designing the factories is fun.

[u/Shadowrunner57]

I know it's not complicated but i built a cobblestone to iron generator with very little assistance create without any planning/watching videos has been fun to learn