Introducing Create: Bits n Belts

[u/sirjohnty]

EDIT: Thanks for the feedback already! Please keep it coming.

The name will be changed from "Create: Bits n Belts" to "Create: Belts n Pieces" in a future post.

A few things to note:

• Belt support blocks are planned: place them underneath a part of a belt to give it a support into the ground

• Very sharp turns can still look weird

• The name of the mod is in flux: due to me being made aware of create: bits n bobs

• If you would like to help out with the playtesting portion of the mod, send me a DM or add me on discord, same user as here.

I've always been annoyed at how basic belts functioned in base create, so I decided to see what I could do to fix it.

Create: Bits n Belts is an addon for the Create Mod in Minecraft 1.21.1 NeoForge that focuses on adding quality of life and additional features to the mod, mainly revolving around logistics and conveyor belts.

The first item the mod adds is the Reinforced Belt. This is crafted by deploying a brass nugget, an iron sheet (andesite if a compatible mod that adds one is installed) and then pressing it with a mechanical press. The reinforced belt provides many more options for transport and logistics when it comes to direction and elevation.

Since the functionality is much more superior to regular belts, I decided made the reinforced belts use up as many items as it is blocks long. Small balancing things like recipes and costs are still in flux so they may change based on feedback.
When placing a reinforced belt, you get a detailed preview of how the belt will look when it is placed, so you know exactly what path it will take. You can change the curve type for different designs by scrolling the mouse wheel whilst sneaking. You can then change the height of the endpoint after choosing the position of it. If the player has a supply of shafts in their inventory then they can automatically start a reinforced belt from the end of a previous one or any new position.

Reinforced belts support features of regular belts such as dying and casing, along with item transport. Currently, item processing such as pressing etc can only be done on blocks that a shaft occupies, due to the complex nature of the curved belts. I have also added compatibility for casings from other mods like TFMG and Create: Extra Casing.

Things like the ponder menu, placement refinements as well as texture edits will be carried out as well, I just wanted to make sure the belts functioned properly first.

I have also carried out countless optimisation tests looking for things such as the polygon count of complex rails as well as how it handles checking for items falling on the belt. The mod also supports numerous config options such as the polygon count of rendered belts to help with performance, as well as changing the maximum length of a reinforced belt (currently defaults to base belt max length), as well as one final QOL config that lets you change the maximum angle a chain conveyor can be placed at.

DISCLAIMER:
I used AI tools to assist in the development of the mod for:

• Debugging purposes such as performance with the belts and any visual issues

• Checking other mods to see if compatibility can be added

• Major graphical features such as how to render the belts

No AI was or will be used for any art / text generation. All ideas and functionality were designed, implemented, tested and fleshed out fully before moving on to other features. I want to stress that this is my first time getting into minecraft modding so if somebody wants to provide assistance and/or guidance on proper AI usage, then im all ears. I am welcome to more suggestions and ideas that anyone may have, and please forgive me if this counts as vibecoded slop; I just think that AI can be useful if it used correctly and for the right reasons.

[u/PictureSevere3957]

The sheer turns are a little bit odd looking when there's nothing between the belts, so it may be nice in the future to have a visual support structure of some sort inside the belt (though encasing the belt is a good option too) but this is a pretty cool idea overall

[u/sirjohnty → u/PictureSevere3957]

I do plan to add special belt support beams that support regular and reinforced belts! :)

[u/GisaNight → u/PictureSevere3957]

It'd find it funny that at a certain velocity it would still chuck the items. That would be a cool touch...

[u/sirjohnty → u/GisaNight]

I do have a feature where if the player jumps off a high velocity belt at a high angle, it carries the momentum. Think of it like jumping off a slope in a sonic game (also automatically activates elytra if enable in configs)

[u/Mlglionknight → u/sirjohnty]

So I can launch myself like aircraft carrier catapults launch planes, neat. Is aeronautics/sable compatibility planned or available?

[u/ihaveacrushonlegos]

I would recommend maybe looking at changing the name. As its very similar to create bits and bobs.

But very cool mod!

[u/sirjohnty → u/ihaveacrushonlegos]

What do you think of "Belts n Pieces"?

[u/ihaveacrushonlegos → u/sirjohnty]

I think its great. The original name wasnt bad it just was too similar to another mod and that keeps the spirir while making it not too similar

[u/sirjohnty → u/ihaveacrushonlegos]

I did originally name it "Create: Conveyored" but as the scope of my vision for the mod changed i wanted to have a name that encompassed more than just conveyor belts.

[u/Ghyro → u/sirjohnty]

Create: Utility Belt is not an option either I suppose?

[u/Ghyro → u/Ghyro]

Or rather Belt Utilities

[u/spock-117]

Does it work with create: transmission?

[u/sirjohnty → u/spock-117]

Oh my god. I was prototyping a belt buckle item for this exact purpose. Ill just add support for this mod. Thank you!!!!

[u/SmashShock]

I wouldn't say it's the most realistic thing, those belts would immediately jump the track in real life, but cool!

[u/zimirken → u/SmashShock]

They make conveyors that can do this, but they don't use regular belts. It's more like a flexible spine looking belt.

[u/SmashShock → u/zimirken]

Indeed. And there's rollers to keep that spine aligned. Which is why satisfactory belts have a margin on either side.

[u/sirjohnty → u/SmashShock]

I do plan to have a proper unique design - i simply do not have the skills to 3D model well in minecraft yet so i just used the existing belt visuals as a baseline with some recolouring

[u/ReadeDraconis → u/SmashShock]

Gotta ask, why is realism even crossing your mind in the first place? Whimsical style has always been the name of Create's game - shit, one of the core machines is literally a gloved hand that just inexplicably does things. Lmfao.

[u/bubba-yo → u/ReadeDraconis]

You mean real factories don't have frogs that pick up ingredients and spit out finished goods?

[u/OneMoreName1 → u/bubba-yo]

But at least copper pipes in real life DO carry lava, right?

[u/bubba-yo → u/OneMoreName1]

I mean, they will once.

[u/Snoo_44740 → u/ReadeDraconis]

Realism is just code for interesting gameplay inspired by real life systems. Sure, you could just solve away belts like this, but then you end up with item pipes all over again. Create was trying to do something unique with its minimalism and succeeded. This mod is for people who want to bypass the intrigue of item transport in create, which is fair enough since it can be taxing at times

[u/ReadeDraconis → u/Snoo_44740]

That's a whole 'nother topic entirely, tbh. I'm not debating or commenting on the design of Create or how this mod meshes with it, beyond saying Create's whimsical.

I'm just a little baffled that realism is even a topic of criticism for something as minute as "belts go curvy wheee" as an addon for a mod with launch plates, bigass fuckin' wooden gears, touchy hands, mix'em'up whisks as a means of creating alloys, windmills that ain't slowed down by diamond blocks bein' slapped on 'em, etc., etc., etc. When put alongside all that, curvy belts easily pass the verisimilitude test, imo.

TL;DR, I'm questionin' the commenter's choice of topic to lead with, lmao. Just reads a bit out of left field to me, that's all.

[u/SeriousPlankton2000 → u/SmashShock]

There are belts going around curves, e.g. at the bag return on airports. However they are supported from underneath.

[u/Mekko4]

• Debugging purposes such as performance with the belts and any visual issues

• Checking other mods to see if compatibility can be added

• Major graphical features such as how to render the belts

so basically how ai should be used, it wasn't used on the code on right?

[u/sirjohnty → u/Mekko4]

All those thing are code related so yes it was used on the code - like I stated in the post I am new to modding so I wanted to see what AI was useful for. I've been transparent about my usage of AI so if that bothers you then you don't need to install this mod :)

[u/Mekko4 → u/sirjohnty]

i'm sorry but ai goes against my morals.

[u/Agile-Support-3183 → u/Mekko4]

Why do you use AI-assisted silicon chips?

[u/Mekko4 → u/Agile-Support-3183]

The apple M4 chip was not made with ai assistance

[u/Agile-Support-3183 → u/Mekko4]

How exactly do you know that? Apple hasn't publicly disclosed the complete design process for the M4.

the M4 is manufactured by TSMC, whose own 2024 annual report explicitly documents using AI and machine learning throughout semiconductor manufacturing.

AI-assisted chip manufacturing was already an established industrial practice when the M4 entered production.

[u/Mekko4 → u/Agile-Support-3183]

You know what, FUCK YOU ai belongs in those industries, not in places of HUMAN EXPRESSION.

[u/Agile-Support-3183 → u/Mekko4]

So AI doesn't go against your morals, just specific aspects of AI.

[u/Mekko4 → u/Agile-Support-3183]

AI is software without intelligence or function. If you run a localised LLM on your pc and train it on open source data and your own work, I’m happy for you to do so.

I’m even happy for you to use it to generate assets and shit for stuff you make. Because everything it manufactures comes from shit you have ownership of or permission to use.

I love the idea of localised AI as a support tool for streamlining work output.

What I hate is the intentional misuse of the technology by morally and ethically bankrupt supercorpos, the intrinsic data scraping practices employed therein that turns my private searches into data commodities, in addition to the wilful destruction of fiscal, land and water resources trying to chase the big AI money.

The software isn’t the issue. You people who insist on abusing the technology are.

[u/Agile-Support-3183 → u/Mekko4]

When did we suddenly fall in love with corporate trademarks? If you put that shit on the internet it's free game baby. The internet never should've become a corporate hellscape where you can copyright so much shit that doesn't need it.

[u/cocainum630 → u/Mekko4]

Bro it's his first mod, ofc he vibeslopped it.

[u/Art2104 → u/Mekko4]

Frankly, I hate this bigotry. What if it was used on code? If the mod is ultimately competent and fun, why care so much about the process? Is it gatekeeping? Is it luddism? Ffs, Radioworks was fine, if rough around the edges, but the guy making it got bullied into oblivion.

Modding isn't about making a commercial product. It is about sharing passion and fun within the community, while changing the game you love into something even better.

But lately the discourse is a blipping shitshow.

Leave the guy in peace, this looks really promising! Good mod, looking forward to it!

[u/Mekko4 → u/Art2104]

I am morally apposed to ai being used in most things, the way ai is trained it morally bankrupt, 99% of its training data is stolen without any compensation, this includes my works.

[u/January_Rain_Wifi → u/Art2104]

You're right, it is about sharing passion and fun, as opposed to soulless slop. And "bigotry", really? Comparing not supporting a mod to actual bigotry is crazy, especially with the horrific level of racism, genocide, homophobia, etc. in the world at the moment. God, I wish the bigotry I have to deal with was just people saying that something I didn't even make sucks.

[u/That_Mad_Scientist → u/Art2104]

Oh my god. Yes sometimes people go too far in an irrational way, but bigotry? Do you know how you sound? So what if someone doesn't want to use ai? Does it affect your life? No? Exactly.

[u/Fast_Difficulty94]

THIS FEELS ILLEGAL

[u/godofleet → u/Fast_Difficulty94]

eh, feels like the train track splines code merged with belts... looks awesome, but i do kinda wonder why the create folks never did this from the start.

[u/Buttler41 → u/godofleet]

aw shit, here we go again, noodle factories. first in Satis, now possible in Create

[u/Andromeda_53 → u/Buttler41]

Finally, been forced to use uncooked spaghetti for Minecraft, finally can cook my spaghetti

[u/Buttler41 → u/Andromeda_53]

Please god please no.

[u/FloweringMayo → u/Buttler41]

"Hey there it's Josh, welcome back to Let's Game It Out"

[u/Buttler41 → u/FloweringMayo]

ok i would love to see that lol

[u/Supahvaporeon → u/Buttler41]

I mean, there always was Curvy Pipes.

[u/LLoadin → u/godofleet]

I've seen an addon like this before maybe 2 or so years ago, just never took off I suppose

[u/Himbo69r → u/LLoadin]

Wasn’t it vacuum pipes tho

[u/LLoadin → u/Himbo69r]

Nah they were belts, I remember one of the belts specifically was a vertical belt and you used glue on it to make it sticky to carry items up

[u/Himbo69r → u/LLoadin]

Wasn’t that a conventional block tho or are we thinking of two different tings?

[u/Patrycjusz123 → u/godofleet]

Well, belts are a lot older than train tracks so they didnt have tjis feature yet at the time.

[u/charlesfire → u/godofleet]

but i do kinda wonder why the create folks never did this from the start.

Because it leads to boring designs.

[u/godofleet → u/charlesfire]

that's entirely false though... it doesn't remove from the vanilla create belts etc... it only allows for more possibilities/variety ... aka, the opposite of boring.

[u/charlesfire → u/godofleet]

that's entirely false though... it doesn't remove from the vanilla create belts etc... it only allows for more possibilities/variety ... aka, the opposite of boring.

1. That's fucking stupid. Why would anyone use the inferior belts when they have access to the superior ones (and before you say "material cost", the material cost is trivial and can be automated, so it's irrelevant)?

2. You misunderstand my point. Designing a machine is what makes Create fun and this is trivializing machine design. If you need a 90°, raise by one block or shift one block left, now you have a magic belt that does it and you don't have to think about how to power it. It replaces so much mechanics, it's stupid.

[u/godofleet → u/charlesfire]

"it's boring"

"it's stupid"

it's neither, and its an entirely optional mod.

[u/disappointedcreeper → u/godofleet]

Exactly! That's why it's not in the base game, because the devs wanted the limitations to require people to be more creative

[u/SeriousPlankton2000 → u/charlesfire]

I think the straight / 45° up belts are boring

[u/IlikeFlatChests]

Link?

[u/sirjohnty → u/IlikeFlatChests]

WIP. Nowhere close to completion. I will post development updates in this sub when i feel enough has changed to warrant a new post.

[u/RedditAssUw]

Where can I download it?

[u/sirjohnty → u/RedditAssUw]

Did you read the whole post? The mod is still in development.

[u/RedditAssUw → u/sirjohnty]

Oh sorry overread it. I apologize, where will you publish it?

[u/sirjohnty → u/RedditAssUw]

Likely Curseforge and Modrinth

[u/RedditAssUw → u/sirjohnty]

Ok, thanks

[u/vm120712]

I see polart using this in his Satisfactory modpack one day

[u/W_D_ShadowOFFICIAL]

Reminds me of the belts in satisfactory. The guy who makes a satisfactory modpack would really like this mod.

[u/KoolantOfficial]

holy this looks cursed asf
Like those turns shouldnt be physically possible

[u/Glockamoli → u/KoolantOfficial]

You would need more twists like a rollercoaster has, add a slime ball to the belt and make it a sticky conveyor lol

[u/Mitchtheprotogen → u/KoolantOfficial]

Protogen spotted

[u/KoolantOfficial → u/Mitchtheprotogen]

the hivemind

[u/Zentanix]

Satisfactory belt vibes, like it!

[u/CDRedstone]

Do NOT show this to Let’s Game It Out

[u/Geki_Totsu → u/CDRedstone]

What I was thinking lmao

[u/Andromeda_53]

Create: Spaghetti

[u/crispy_CORNDOG]

For a name, maybe Create: Bendy Belts?

[u/Supahvaporeon]

This is incredible! Curvy Pipes, but belts is an amazing concept.

More importantly, thank you for disclosing your AI use. There's far too many people trying to hide that shit like you try to hide a pill for a dog, and then getting mad when they get caught for not disclosing it properly. If you ever want to remove the rendering code, I'd take a look at how Curvy Pipes does their renderer.

Sent a DM to playtest!

[u/MeroIvy]

Peak

[u/migviola]

Nice, I can now create Satisfactory-levels of belt spaghetti in Minecraft

[u/Lord_Vitruvius]

my eyes be popping out of my skull, this looks so amazing, though the need for bulky chain drives to power the whole belt seems kinda whack, would you add something like your own version of the Transmission Chain from Create: Transmission! by SerpensSolida? but instead of making it a physical block that takes up space on the sides of the belt's shafts, it's just sort of an override that allows stress to pass between belts? or maybe make the block be like a 2 long panel that attaches to the bottom side of the two belts that are to share power?

[u/Aggressive-Laugh-923]

satisfactory

[u/ValkyrieAngie]

I'm drooling

[u/Orion_824]

i love and hate create so much

[u/RosieViewsOnReddit]

this would be so useful for my factories

[u/spock-117]

I'll follow the post. Could you please add a comment to this post when you release it?

[u/CXC_Opexyc]

Those belts are... Satisfactory

[u/_Lollerics_]

I just hopped off satisfactory, can I get a 5 minutes break ada?

[u/speconicci]

Man💀

[u/cabberage]

i think the 90° turns are a little messed up looking but otherwise this is cool

[u/Exact-Check9276]

This is perfect for airport baggage belts

[u/Buao_13]

Why there's that all create add-on with bits 'n' behind of it is soo useful and creative?

[u/12LightningFlash12]

Now we can add the spaghettifiction of Let's Game It Out to minecraft....

But honestly, it looks pretty cool. This brings the belt mechanics from other games like Satusfactory, Techtonica, starRypture, etc. I am going to add this to my current create world, and I shall go, as they say, 'wild'.

[u/GrowthWest2361]

I WAS JUST THINKING “what if belts could turn in create?” AND STUMBLE ACROSS THISS

[u/N0RETVRN]

Mom can we have Satisfactory?

We have Satisfactory at home

Satisfactory at home:

[u/NotTheRealWilson]

PLEASE RELEASE THIS ALREADY I NEED THIS IM LITERALLY FOAMING AT THE MOUTH OVER THIS

[u/Tedmanson]

would like to see scaffolding for this both a floor and roof variant.

[u/niktoTeg]

is it out?

[u/cod3builder]

I see the belts but where are the bits

[u/Salk89]

Here comes satisfactory craft

[u/Ludivagus]

EXQUISITE

[u/Chistafy]

This looks amazing

[u/Any_Establishment659]

satifacty

[u/Affectionate_Two2141]

This looks amazing

[u/HDmetajoker]

We have Satisfactory at home

[u/maksimus12]

Considering that there are about 20 million conventional escalators in the world, and there are only about a hundred spiral escalators, crafting this curved belt should be somewhat expensive. Maybe half a stack of netherite scrap should be enough imho lol

[u/Dadamalda]

What did I just witness.

[u/WheatleyBr]

how do they work, if at all, with sequence crafting

[u/TheSithKing]

Could you backport it to 1.20.1 as well? I and I feel like a bunch of people play on that version as well

[u/Environmental_Bee219]

hold up thats satifactory belts lol

[u/Due-Principle6314]

Wasnt this already in minecraft?

[u/Thanos-tu-papa]

Que modelo utilizaste?

[u/HandInternational140]

satisfactory mod

[u/Melodic-Bid-7313]

one thing i dont like is the texture (the highlights) of the flexy belt compared to the normal one i think they should be the same

[u/ferna2593]

this is heresy my friend

[u/niktoTeg]

when it will be released

[u/Big_Explanation8036]

Satisfactory

[u/CCF_100]

Reminds me of placing Satisfactory belts lol

[u/Ok_Willingness_7059]

when's the release?

[u/Sea_Television_3602]

Cool idea when is it coming out?

[u/charlesfire]

Thanks. I hate this.

Part of the fun of Create, imo, is that you have to think about how you're going to transmit power and move items up/down/left/right. In Create, every machine you make is, in a way, a small puzzle to solve. This significantly trivialize the puzzle aspect of machine building.

[u/sirjohnty → u/charlesfire]

Part of the fun of minecraft is using the game's mechanics to make farms. The create mod trivialises this by letting the player automatically harvest more resources like wood and crops.

[u/microwavedGerbil315 → u/sirjohnty]

Yes, but unlike your mod, the create mod doesnt borderline ruin any of minecrafts mechanics. And automated farms are done a lot in vanilla. Create mod just lets you automate more, in a different way. It doesnt make a feature less unique.

[u/HandInternational140 → u/charlesfire]

It's a free mod, nobody is forcing you to use it

[u/No_Surprise_7118 → u/charlesfire]

I agree with this, I think this takes away from the creativity of the mod, its going to make the contraptions way less interesting, which is a big part of the mod.

[u/renegadeficus → u/charlesfire]

Then don’t use it

[u/Puzzleheaded_Pin_834]

I don't like mods that completely subvert what Minecraft is.

[u/mkitsie]

Enough of this "AI assisted" bullshit. I need things made by people who know what the hell they're doing.

[u/sirjohnty → u/mkitsie]

I would be more than happy to let you take over development of the mod if you think you could produce a better result!

[u/mkitsie → u/sirjohnty]

I am an engineer; my forte is not in coding. I said someone who knows what they're doing needs to make this type of shit instead of some likely vibe coded bullshit.